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 | | From: | Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,465 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!! | | Subject: | 32nd Anniversary of USA's Emancipation of Women! CELEBRATE it! | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:30:39 GMT |
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Roe vs. Wade -- 32 years ago today.
The greatest act of emancipation at the federal level since 1865!
CELEBRATE it. And THANK a local or nearby abortion provider
for standing tall against the hateful & control-freakish loons of
Anti-Choice.
-- Craig Chilton
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Every time a person supports bigotry in public, and presents NO
relevant FACTS to back his/her stance in behalf of a loathsome
agenda against individual liberties and human rights, that person
has -- ironically -- further **damaged** the cause he/she supports.
And every time a fair-minded and sensible egalitarian opposes
such a bigot, publicly, and **presents** relevant FACTS that are
damaging to the bigot's agenda, that TOO is an additional nail in
the coffin lid of the agenda, and a push of that casket CLOSER
to the Drain of Extinction -- its well-deserved ultimate destination.
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(E-Mail address is valid when removing _ from it.)
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| | From: | Graham | | Subject: | Re: 32nd Anniversary of USA's Emancipation of Women! CELEBRATE it! | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:06:08 +1300 |
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| "Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,465 days to BYE-BYE Bushie!
Forever!!" wrote:
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> Roe vs. Wade -- 32 years ago today.
>
> The greatest act of emancipation at the federal level since 1865!
>
> CELEBRATE it. And THANK a local or nearby abortion provider
> for standing tall against the hateful & control-freakish loons of
> Anti-Choice.
Roe v Wade is the most divisive move in the history of the Supreme
Court.
What - celebrate the division of a country when the abortion issue was
nationalized, when previously it was not at all an issue for
presidential elections?
Abortion wasn't always a national issue. Roe v. Wade is why it now won't
go away and why everyone is sick of it. Best thing is to stick the
Constitution and reverse the decision in order to leave it to the states
to make their own laws.
The Constitution allows states to have differing laws on such issues
thereby allowing a united nation. One law imposed on all - Roe v Wade -
is what has created a divided nation.
If you're sick of the abortion issue and wish it would just go away,
oppose Roe v Wade and support constitutionalist judicial nominees.
Remember: The excuse for ultra liberal abortion laws being imposed
across the country is that abortion is included the constitution -
something the Supreme Court only discovered after 200 years of
interpreting it! What a disgusting, divisive, arrogant, anti-democratic
lie.
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| | From: | Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,463 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!! | | Subject: | Re: 32nd Anniversary of USA's Emancipation of Women! CELEBRATE it! | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:26:38 GMT |
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| On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:06:08 +1300,
Graham wrote:
> Craig Chilton wrote:
>> Roe vs. Wade -- 32 years ago today.
>>
>> The greatest act of emancipation at the federal level
>> since 1865!
>>
>> CELEBRATE it. And THANK a local or nearby abortion
>> provider for standing tall against the hateful & control-freakish
>> loons of Anti-Choice.
> Roe v Wade is the most divisive move in the history of the
> Supreme Court.
Yeah? Try the Dred Scott Deccision. In which it was wrong...
but from which it learned well to **stand up** for human rights
thereafter.
Then, over 100 years later, in 1954, there was the "Brown vs.
Board of Education" decision, which spelled the ultimate doom of
segregation. VERY divisive, but also VERY **GOOD**. It *further*
emancipated the blacks. Just as Roe vs. Wade later handed a
MAJOR emancipation to women. In both of those latter cases,
controversy and divisiveness ensued. And in both cases it was a
conflict between IGNORANT and repressive people, vis-a-vis
SENSIBLE and FAIR-minded people.
For the last 150 years, the Supreme Court has had an EXCEL-
LENT record, the vast majority of the time.
> What - celebrate the division of a country when the abortion
> issue was nationalized, when previously it was not at all an issue for
> presidential elections?
See above. The ruling was EXCELLENT. The fact that there
still are people who are hateful, ignorant, or both, to seek to FORCE
women to gestate to term against their will is THEIR fault. Ultimate-
ly, most of them will grow up and the rest of them will die out as
their time comes. Just as we saw happen with segregation.
> Abortion wasn't always a national issue. Roe v. Wade is why it
> now won't go away and why everyone is sick of it. Best thing is
> to stick the Constitution and reverse the decision in order to leave
> it to the states to make their own laws.
Yeah. The SOUTH would just have LOVED to have had that
chance with segregation. Sorry, guy, but the TRASHING of human
rights within our egalitarian nation IS a national issue. And Roe vs.
Wade is one of the very BEST things that the U.S. Supreme Court
has ever done.
And, hopefully, will SOON do in the **same** manner for the s,
with respect to same- marriage.
> The Constitution allows states to have differing laws on such issues
> thereby allowing a united nation. One law imposed on all - Roe v Wade -
> is what has created a divided nation.
See above. ANTI-Choice is a DOOMED agenda. Just as racial
segregation was. Those ignorant enough to be Anti-Choicers will be
GONE someday. Some of them will outgrow their hateful stupidity, and
the rest will ultimately take their bigotry to their graves, where it
will be buried with them.
> If you're sick of the abortion issue and wish it would just go away...
I'm not. Abortion is simply a beneficial REMEDY. Like Band-Aids,
aspirin, and the setting of broken arms. The only thing egalitarians
are sick and tired of is the abject STUPIDITY of those who are DUMB
enough (and hateful enough) to seek to deny ACCESS to abortion to
any girl or woman who desires it.
-- Craig Chilton
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Every time a person supports bigotry in public, and presents NO
relevant FACTS to back his/her stance in behalf of a loathsome
agenda against individual liberties and human rights, that person
has -- ironically -- further **damaged** the cause he/she supports.
And every time a fair-minded and sensible egalitarian opposes
such a bigot, publicly, and **presents** relevant FACTS that are
damaging to the bigot's agenda, that TOO is an additional nail in
the coffin lid of the agenda, and a push of that casket CLOSER
to the Drain of Extinction -- its well-deserved ultimate destination.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
(E-Mail address is valid when removing _ from it.)
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| | From: | Ray Fischer | | Subject: | Re: 32nd Anniversary of USA's Emancipation of Women! CELEBRATE it! | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:39:18 GMT |
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| Graham wrote:
>"Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,465 days to BYE-BYE Bushie!
>Forever!!" wrote:
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>> Roe vs. Wade -- 32 years ago today.
>>
>> The greatest act of emancipation at the federal level since 1865!
>>
>> CELEBRATE it. And THANK a local or nearby abortion provider
>> for standing tall against the hateful & control-freakish loons of
>> Anti-Choice.
>
>Roe v Wade is the most divisive move in the history of the Supreme
>Court.
Affirmative action was (and is) far more so.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| | From: | Christopher Benson-Manica | | Subject: | Re: 32nd Anniversary of USA's Emancipation of Women! CELEBRATE it! | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:48:13 +0000 (UTC) |
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| In talk.abortion Graham wrote:
> Abortion wasn't always a national issue. Roe v. Wade is why it now won't
> go away and why everyone is sick of it. Best thing is to stick the
> Constitution and reverse the decision in order to leave it to the states
> to make their own laws.
If abortion is a states'-rights issue, why wasn't slavery? It's a
tough question to answer.
--
Christopher Benson-Manica | I *should* know what I'm talking about - if I
ataru(at)cyberspace.org | don't, I need to know. Flames welcome.
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| | From: | Unpleasant Truth | | Subject: | Re: 32nd Anniversary of USA's Emancipation of Women! CELEBRATE it! | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:04:05 -0700 |
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"Christopher Benson-Manica" wrote in message
news:ct0gvt$6js$5@chessie.cirr.com...
> In talk.abortion Graham wrote:
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> > Abortion wasn't always a national issue. Roe v. Wade is why it now won't
> > go away and why everyone is sick of it. Best thing is to stick the
> > Constitution and reverse the decision in order to leave it to the states
> > to make their own laws.
>
> If abortion is a states'-rights issue, why wasn't slavery? It's a
> tough question to answer.
It was - until we passed the 14th Amendment via the process the constitution
specified, not via unconstitutional invention by black-robed fascists taking
the issue away from the people.
How ironic that a pro-abortion advocate would choose slavery as an analogy,
since it is the pro-abortion side that is in philosophical lock step with
the pro-slavery side (and, not coincidentally, both are mainly associated
with the Democrat Party, and the pro-life/pro-emancipation sides are
associated with the Republican Party and the leadership for abolition comes
from the religious community). In the future, those who promoted abortion,
especially its extension to the point of infanticide (a.k.a., "partial birth
abortion") will be thought of with the same contempt as we now think of
slave-owners.
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