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 | | From: | Mark Fox | | Subject: | Re: Ritter Right About Iraq | | Date: | 23 Jan 2005 21:13:06 -0800 |
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 | David W. Barnes wrote: > In article <1106542704.288916.15080@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, Mark > Fox wrote: > > > Sid9 wrote: > > > Osprey wrote: > > > > "Frank Dwyer" wrote in message > > > > news:5yZId.1646$b74.822@news02.roc.ny... > > > >> Sid9 wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Mark Fox wrote an irrelevance: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> These are FACTS independent of > > > >>> Ritter that tell us about the incompetence > > > >>> and lack of judgment of Yosemite George > > > >>> > > > >>> Saddam was no threat to anyone. > > > >> > > > >> No one outside of his own country. > > > > > > > > It depends I think. If he was financing terrorism, which we know > > he > > > > was..at least with suicide bombers, or allowing terrorist networks > > to > > > > come into Iraq and use the land to train or set up base. > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> Saddam was neutered. > > > >> > > > >> Yup > > > >> > > > >>> Saddam was contained. > > > >> > > > >> Yup > > > >> > > > >>> Saddam had no air force. > > > >> > > > >> Minimal at best. > > > > > > > > Or what was buried under the sand. > > > > > > > >> > > > >>> Saddam had only the remnants of air defense. > > > >> > > > >> Yup > > > >> > > > >>> Saddam had UN inspectors all over Iraq with freedom to go > > anywhere > > > >>> unannounced. > > > >> > > > >> Wrong > > > > > > > > Correct, remember they were booted out when Clinton was in office > > and > > > > for a long time Saddam was going unchecked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have a convenient incorrect memory to support your case. > > > > > > Inspectors had returned. > > > Saddam was desperate. > > > Yosemite George's attack was imminent. > > > Saddam caved. > > > > > > *Inspectors entered Iraq, unfettered.* > > > They could visit his palaces....in fact any place with no advanced > > warning > > > to anybody. > > > > > > Then when Bush threatened to start bombing Iraq the inspectors left > > in one > > > big hurry for their personal safety from American bombs. > > > > > > There was *NO* valid reason for this war > > > > The UN Security Council and the United States Congress says there was a > > valid reason. > > Neither said that - but keep trying.
Yes they did. The coalition acted per UN and Congressional authorization. Saddam is in jail and 14 million Iraqis are getting ready to vote next week. Its over and done. Go back to sleep David. You missed it.
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 | | From: | David W. Barnes | | Subject: | Re: Ritter Right About Iraq | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:19:58 -0800 |
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 | In article <1106543586.956327.78390@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, Mark Fox wrote:
> David W. Barnes wrote: > > In article <1106542704.288916.15080@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, > Mark > > Fox wrote: > > > > > Sid9 wrote: > > > > Osprey wrote: > > > > > "Frank Dwyer" wrote in message > > > > > news:5yZId.1646$b74.822@news02.roc.ny... > > > > >> Sid9 wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Mark Fox wrote an irrelevance: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> These are FACTS independent of > > > > >>> Ritter that tell us about the incompetence > > > > >>> and lack of judgment of Yosemite George > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Saddam was no threat to anyone. > > > > >> > > > > >> No one outside of his own country. > > > > > > > > > > It depends I think. If he was financing terrorism, which we > know > > > he > > > > > was..at least with suicide bombers, or allowing terrorist > networks > > > to > > > > > come into Iraq and use the land to train or set up base. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> Saddam was neutered. > > > > >> > > > > >> Yup > > > > >> > > > > >>> Saddam was contained. > > > > >> > > > > >> Yup > > > > >> > > > > >>> Saddam had no air force. > > > > >> > > > > >> Minimal at best. > > > > > > > > > > Or what was buried under the sand. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >>> Saddam had only the remnants of air defense. > > > > >> > > > > >> Yup > > > > >> > > > > >>> Saddam had UN inspectors all over Iraq with freedom to go > > > anywhere > > > > >>> unannounced. > > > > >> > > > > >> Wrong > > > > > > > > > > Correct, remember they were booted out when Clinton was in > office > > > and > > > > > for a long time Saddam was going unchecked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have a convenient incorrect memory to support your case. > > > > > > > > Inspectors had returned. > > > > Saddam was desperate. > > > > Yosemite George's attack was imminent. > > > > Saddam caved. > > > > > > > > *Inspectors entered Iraq, unfettered.* > > > > They could visit his palaces....in fact any place with no > advanced > > > warning > > > > to anybody. > > > > > > > > Then when Bush threatened to start bombing Iraq the inspectors > left > > > in one > > > > big hurry for their personal safety from American bombs. > > > > > > > > There was *NO* valid reason for this war > > > > > > The UN Security Council and the United States Congress says there > was a > > > valid reason. > > > > Neither said that - but keep trying. > > Yes they did. The coalition acted per UN and Congressional > authorization.
Untrue.
> Saddam is in jail and 14 million Iraqis are getting > ready to vote next week. Its over and done.
Then what are we doing there?
> Go back to sleep David. > You missed it.
You live in a dream world. No wonder you are a Republican. The next thing you know, you will be claiming we Invaded Iraq for a good reason.
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 | | From: | Adam H. | | Subject: | Re: Ritter Right About Iraq | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:26:44 -0500 |
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 | On 23 Jan 2005 21:13:06 -0800, "Mark Fox" wrote, akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
> >David W. Barnes wrote: >> In article <1106542704.288916.15080@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, >Mark >> Fox wrote: >> >> > Sid9 wrote: >> > > Osprey wrote: >> > > > "Frank Dwyer" wrote in message >> > > > news:5yZId.1646$b74.822@news02.roc.ny... >> > > >> Sid9 wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >>> Mark Fox wrote an irrelevance: >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> These are FACTS independent of >> > > >>> Ritter that tell us about the incompetence >> > > >>> and lack of judgment of Yosemite George >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Saddam was no threat to anyone. >> > > >> >> > > >> No one outside of his own country. >> > > > >> > > > It depends I think. If he was financing terrorism, which we >know >> > he >> > > > was..at least with suicide bombers, or allowing terrorist >networks >> > to >> > > > come into Iraq and use the land to train or set up base. >> > > > >> > > >> >> > > >>> Saddam was neutered. >> > > >> >> > > >> Yup >> > > >> >> > > >>> Saddam was contained. >> > > >> >> > > >> Yup >> > > >> >> > > >>> Saddam had no air force. >> > > >> >> > > >> Minimal at best. >> > > > >> > > > Or what was buried under the sand. >> > > > >> > > >> >> > > >>> Saddam had only the remnants of air defense. >> > > >> >> > > >> Yup >> > > >> >> > > >>> Saddam had UN inspectors all over Iraq with freedom to go >> > anywhere >> > > >>> unannounced. >> > > >> >> > > >> Wrong >> > > > >> > > > Correct, remember they were booted out when Clinton was in >office >> > and >> > > > for a long time Saddam was going unchecked. >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > You have a convenient incorrect memory to support your case. >> > > >> > > Inspectors had returned. >> > > Saddam was desperate. >> > > Yosemite George's attack was imminent. >> > > Saddam caved. >> > > >> > > *Inspectors entered Iraq, unfettered.* >> > > They could visit his palaces....in fact any place with no >advanced >> > warning >> > > to anybody. >> > > >> > > Then when Bush threatened to start bombing Iraq the inspectors >left >> > in one >> > > big hurry for their personal safety from American bombs. >> > > >> > > There was *NO* valid reason for this war >> > >> > The UN Security Council and the United States Congress says there >was a >> > valid reason. >> >> Neither said that - but keep trying. > >Yes they did. The coalition acted per UN and Congressional >authorization. Saddam is in jail and 14 million Iraqis are getting >ready to vote next week. Its over and done. Go back to sleep David. >You missed it.
Nope. No UN authorization. Trotting out that old fiction is getting old.
--- "Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." - Thomas Jefferson
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 | | From: | David W. Barnes | | Subject: | Re: Ritter Right About Iraq | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:21:08 -0800 |
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 | In article , Adam H. wrote:
> On 23 Jan 2005 21:13:06 -0800, "Mark Fox" wrote, > akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals: > > > > >David W. Barnes wrote: > >> In article <1106542704.288916.15080@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, > >Mark > >> Fox wrote: > >> > >> > Sid9 wrote: > >> > > Osprey wrote: > >> > > > "Frank Dwyer" wrote in message > >> > > > news:5yZId.1646$b74.822@news02.roc.ny... > >> > > >> Sid9 wrote: > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> Mark Fox wrote an irrelevance: > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> These are FACTS independent of > >> > > >>> Ritter that tell us about the incompetence > >> > > >>> and lack of judgment of Yosemite George > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> Saddam was no threat to anyone. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> No one outside of his own country. > >> > > > > >> > > > It depends I think. If he was financing terrorism, which we > >know > >> > he > >> > > > was..at least with suicide bombers, or allowing terrorist > >networks > >> > to > >> > > > come into Iraq and use the land to train or set up base. > >> > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> Saddam was neutered. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Yup > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> Saddam was contained. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Yup > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> Saddam had no air force. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Minimal at best. > >> > > > > >> > > > Or what was buried under the sand. > >> > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> Saddam had only the remnants of air defense. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Yup > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> Saddam had UN inspectors all over Iraq with freedom to go > >> > anywhere > >> > > >>> unannounced. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Wrong > >> > > > > >> > > > Correct, remember they were booted out when Clinton was in > >office > >> > and > >> > > > for a long time Saddam was going unchecked. > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > You have a convenient incorrect memory to support your case. > >> > > > >> > > Inspectors had returned. > >> > > Saddam was desperate. > >> > > Yosemite George's attack was imminent. > >> > > Saddam caved. > >> > > > >> > > *Inspectors entered Iraq, unfettered.* > >> > > They could visit his palaces....in fact any place with no > >advanced > >> > warning > >> > > to anybody. > >> > > > >> > > Then when Bush threatened to start bombing Iraq the inspectors > >left > >> > in one > >> > > big hurry for their personal safety from American bombs. > >> > > > >> > > There was *NO* valid reason for this war > >> > > >> > The UN Security Council and the United States Congress says there > >was a > >> > valid reason. > >> > >> Neither said that - but keep trying. > > > >Yes they did. The coalition acted per UN and Congressional > >authorization. Saddam is in jail and 14 million Iraqis are getting > >ready to vote next week. Its over and done. Go back to sleep David. > >You missed it. > > Nope. No UN authorization. Trotting out that old fiction is getting > old.
Amazing how they do that, isnšt it? To hell with reality.
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 | | From: | Adam H. | | Subject: | Re: Ritter Right About Iraq | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:46:50 -0500 |
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 | On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:21:08 -0800, "David W. Barnes" wrote, akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals:
>In article , Adam H. > wrote: > >> On 23 Jan 2005 21:13:06 -0800, "Mark Fox" wrote, >> akin to the neighing and braying of farmyard animals: >> >> > >> >David W. Barnes wrote: >> >> In article <1106542704.288916.15080@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, >> >Mark >> >> Fox wrote: >> >> >> >> > Sid9 wrote: >> >> > > Osprey wrote: >> >> > > > "Frank Dwyer" wrote in message >> >> > > > news:5yZId.1646$b74.822@news02.roc.ny... >> >> > > >> Sid9 wrote: >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >>> Mark Fox wrote an irrelevance: >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> These are FACTS independent of >> >> > > >>> Ritter that tell us about the incompetence >> >> > > >>> and lack of judgment of Yosemite George >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> Saddam was no threat to anyone. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> No one outside of his own country. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > It depends I think. If he was financing terrorism, which we >> >know >> >> > he >> >> > > > was..at least with suicide bombers, or allowing terrorist >> >networks >> >> > to >> >> > > > come into Iraq and use the land to train or set up base. >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >>> Saddam was neutered. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> Yup >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >>> Saddam was contained. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> Yup >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >>> Saddam had no air force. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> Minimal at best. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Or what was buried under the sand. >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >>> Saddam had only the remnants of air defense. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> Yup >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >>> Saddam had UN inspectors all over Iraq with freedom to go >> >> > anywhere >> >> > > >>> unannounced. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> Wrong >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Correct, remember they were booted out when Clinton was in >> >office >> >> > and >> >> > > > for a long time Saddam was going unchecked. >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > You have a convenient incorrect memory to support your case. >> >> > > >> >> > > Inspectors had returned. >> >> > > Saddam was desperate. >> >> > > Yosemite George's attack was imminent. >> >> > > Saddam caved. >> >> > > >> >> > > *Inspectors entered Iraq, unfettered.* >> >> > > They could visit his palaces....in fact any place with no >> >advanced >> >> > warning >> >> > > to anybody. >> >> > > >> >> > > Then when Bush threatened to start bombing Iraq the inspectors >> >left >> >> > in one >> >> > > big hurry for their personal safety from American bombs. >> >> > > >> >> > > There was *NO* valid reason for this war >> >> > >> >> > The UN Security Council and the United States Congress says there >> >was a >> >> > valid reason. >> >> >> >> Neither said that - but keep trying. >> > >> >Yes they did. The coalition acted per UN and Congressional >> >authorization. Saddam is in jail and 14 million Iraqis are getting >> >ready to vote next week. Its over and done. Go back to sleep David. >> >You missed it. >> >> Nope. No UN authorization. Trotting out that old fiction is getting >> old. > >Amazing how they do that, isnšt it? To hell with reality.
Oh, no doubt someone is going to bring up 1441 again while ignoring what the resolution actually says.
--- "Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." - Thomas Jefferson
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 | | From: | Osprey | | Subject: | Re: Ritter Right About Iraq | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:19:18 -0500 |
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 | "Mark Fox" wrote in message news:1106543586.956327.78390@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > David W. Barnes wrote: >> In article <1106542704.288916.15080@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, > Mark >> Fox wrote: >> >> > Sid9 wrote: >> > > Osprey wrote: >> > > > "Frank Dwyer" wrote in message >> > > > news:5yZId.1646$b74.822@news02.roc.ny... >> > > >> Sid9 wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >>> Mark Fox wrote an irrelevance: >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> These are FACTS independent of >> > > >>> Ritter that tell us about the incompetence >> > > >>> and lack of judgment of Yosemite George >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Saddam was no threat to anyone. >> > > >> >> > > >> No one outside of his own country. >> > > > >> > > > It depends I think. If he was financing terrorism, which we > know >> > he >> > > > was..at least with suicide bombers, or allowing terrorist > networks >> > to >> > > > come into Iraq and use the land to train or set up base. >> > > > >> > > >> >> > > >>> Saddam was neutered. >> > > >> >> > > >> Yup >> > > >> >> > > >>> Saddam was contained. >> > > >> >> > > >> Yup >> > > >> >> > > >>> Saddam had no air force. >> > > >> >> > > >> Minimal at best. >> > > > >> > > > Or what was buried under the sand. >> > > > >> > > >> >> > > >>> Saddam had only the remnants of air defense. >> > > >> >> > > >> Yup >> > > >> >> > > >>> Saddam had UN inspectors all over Iraq with freedom to go >> > anywhere >> > > >>> unannounced. >> > > >> >> > > >> Wrong >> > > > >> > > > Correct, remember they were booted out when Clinton was in > office >> > and >> > > > for a long time Saddam was going unchecked. >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > You have a convenient incorrect memory to support your case. >> > > >> > > Inspectors had returned. >> > > Saddam was desperate. >> > > Yosemite George's attack was imminent. >> > > Saddam caved. >> > > >> > > *Inspectors entered Iraq, unfettered.* >> > > They could visit his palaces....in fact any place with no > advanced >> > warning >> > > to anybody. >> > > >> > > Then when Bush threatened to start bombing Iraq the inspectors > left >> > in one >> > > big hurry for their personal safety from American bombs. >> > > >> > > There was *NO* valid reason for this war >> > >> > The UN Security Council and the United States Congress says there > was a >> > valid reason. >> >> Neither said that - but keep trying. > > Yes they did. The coalition acted per UN and Congressional > authorization. Saddam is in jail and 14 million Iraqis are getting > ready to vote next week. Its over and done. Go back to sleep David. > You missed it.
Isn't it a shame, that such a wonderful thing like democracy is getting ready to happen in Iraq, and these fools can't understand that? For the first time, in probably many of the Iraqi's lives, they are going to vote.
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 | | From: | David W. Barnes | | Subject: | Re: Ritter Right About Iraq | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:20:27 -0800 |
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 | In article , Osprey wrote:
> "Mark Fox" wrote in message > news:1106543586.956327.78390@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > > > David W. Barnes wrote: > >> In article <1106542704.288916.15080@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, > > Mark > >> Fox wrote: > >> > >> > Sid9 wrote: > >> > > Osprey wrote: > >> > > > "Frank Dwyer" wrote in message > >> > > > news:5yZId.1646$b74.822@news02.roc.ny... > >> > > >> Sid9 wrote: > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> Mark Fox wrote an irrelevance: > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> These are FACTS independent of > >> > > >>> Ritter that tell us about the incompetence > >> > > >>> and lack of judgment of Yosemite George > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> Saddam was no threat to anyone. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> No one outside of his own country. > >> > > > > >> > > > It depends I think. If he was financing terrorism, which we > > know > >> > he > >> > > > was..at least with suicide bombers, or allowing terrorist > > networks > >> > to > >> > > > come into Iraq and use the land to train or set up base. > >> > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> Saddam was neutered. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Yup > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> Saddam was contained. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Yup > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> Saddam had no air force. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Minimal at best. > >> > > > > >> > > > Or what was buried under the sand. > >> > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> Saddam had only the remnants of air defense. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Yup > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> Saddam had UN inspectors all over Iraq with freedom to go > >> > anywhere > >> > > >>> unannounced. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Wrong > >> > > > > >> > > > Correct, remember they were booted out when Clinton was in > > office > >> > and > >> > > > for a long time Saddam was going unchecked. > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > You have a convenient incorrect memory to support your case. > >> > > > >> > > Inspectors had returned. > >> > > Saddam was desperate. > >> > > Yosemite George's attack was imminent. > >> > > Saddam caved. > >> > > > >> > > *Inspectors entered Iraq, unfettered.* > >> > > They could visit his palaces....in fact any place with no > > advanced > >> > warning > >> > > to anybody. > >> > > > >> > > Then when Bush threatened to start bombing Iraq the inspectors > > left > >> > in one > >> > > big hurry for their personal safety from American bombs. > >> > > > >> > > There was *NO* valid reason for this war > >> > > >> > The UN Security Council and the United States Congress says there > > was a > >> > valid reason. > >> > >> Neither said that - but keep trying. > > > > Yes they did. The coalition acted per UN and Congressional > > authorization. Saddam is in jail and 14 million Iraqis are getting > > ready to vote next week. Its over and done. Go back to sleep David. > > You missed it. > > Isn't it a shame, that such a wonderful thing like democracy is getting > ready to happen in Iraq, and these fools can't understand that? For the > first time, in probably many of the Iraqi's lives, they are going to vote.
They voted before - idiot.
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