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 | | From: | Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,464 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!! | | Subject: | Jay Sekulow and his "ACLJ" -- PROVE that RRR's leaders TARGET the profoundly ignorant, for recruitment. | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 04:24:14 GMT |
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 | Jay Sekulow is an accomplished lawyer, and he and his Anti-ACLU outfit, the "ACLJ," have even argued cases before the U.S. Supreme Court. (Almost **always** AGAINST personal liberties.)
So -- even though he's **misguided** and **hateful** enough to be an RRR cultist... he is NOT an ignorant person.
But whenever he WHINES about same- marriage, he uses this SAME phrase over and over again: "unelected judges"... "unelected judges"... "unelected judges"... "unelected judges"... ad nauseum.
A phrase you'll NEVER hear him utter is: "checks and balances."
(That would be HONEST!)
AS an accomplished lawyer, he KNOWS that the Constitution purposely **calls** for appellate court judges TO be appointed! It's a fundamental and constitutional part of our system!
So he's either an ignoramus... which we've ruled out -- OR he's a LIAR, for directly implying that the judges in Massachusetts who declared the INCLUSION of same- couples in marriage to be constitutional got there IMPROPERLY. And that they didn't have the RIGHT to interpret the Constitution in that manner.
The RRR ***counts*** on its being able to pander to the small percentage of the population that is profoundly ignorant, and prey upon the gullibility that goes along with that unfortunate condition. To sway them into supporting their loathsome agendas against personal liberties and human rights.
FORTUNATELY -- **Most** Americans ARE intelligent enough to *recognize* Sekulow's dishonesty for being just that -- and to recognize that this "unelected judges" CRAP is precisely that: dishonest CRAP that's been crafted to make the country's most ignorant people believe that appellate court judges aren't *sup- posed* to be appointed... and that those judges' CORRECT interpretation of the Constitution was something OTHER than a case of their having done their job **properly.**
RRR : society :: 5% arsenic solution : glass of drinking water
Dangerous as hell... poisonous to our liberties... and unconscionably hateful and sociopathic.
-- Craig Chilton
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 | | From: | ZenIsWhen | | Subject: | Re: Jay Sekulow and his "ACLJ" -- PROVE that RRR's leaders TARGET the profoundly ignorant, for recruitment. | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 03:34:59 -0500 |
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 | "Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,464 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!!" wrote in message news:41fa1e11.87296602@netnews.mchsi.com... > > Jay Sekulow is an accomplished lawyer, and he and his > Anti-ACLU outfit, the "ACLJ," have even argued cases before > the U.S. Supreme Court. (Almost **always** AGAINST personal > liberties.) > > So -- even though he's **misguided** and **hateful** enough > to be an RRR cultist... he is NOT an ignorant person. > > But whenever he WHINES about same- marriage, he uses > this SAME phrase over and over again: "unelected judges"... > "unelected judges"... "unelected judges"... "unelected judges"... > ad nauseum.
but only against judges who are NOT a part of the religious/political extremist right.
> > A phrase you'll NEVER hear him utter is: "checks and balances." > > (That would be HONEST!) > > AS an accomplished lawyer, he KNOWS that the Constitution > purposely **calls** for appellate court judges TO be appointed! > It's a fundamental and constitutional part of our system! > > So he's either an ignoramus... which we've ruled out -- OR he's a > LIAR, for directly implying that the judges in Massachusetts who > declared the INCLUSION of same- couples in marriage to be > constitutional got there IMPROPERLY. And that they didn't have > the RIGHT to interpret the Constitution in that manner.
He's a lawyer ..... and he's a right wing fanatic.... either of which should be enough to question ANYTHING he says.
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 | | From: | Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,463 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!! | | Subject: | Re: Jay Sekulow and his "ACLJ" -- PROVE that RRR's leaders TARGET the profoundly ignorant, for recruitment. | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:09:20 GMT |
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 | On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 03:34:59 -0500, "ZenIsWhen" wrote: > Craig Chilton wrote:
>> Jay Sekulow is an accomplished lawyer, and he and his >> Anti-ACLU outfit, the "ACLJ," have even argued cases before >> the U.S. Supreme Court. (Almost **always** AGAINST personal >> liberties.) >> >> So -- even though he's **misguided** and **hateful** enough >> to be an RRR cultist... he is NOT an ignorant person. >> >> But whenever he WHINES about same- marriage, he uses >> this SAME phrase over and over again: "unelected judges"... >> "unelected judges"... "unelected judges"... "unelected judges"... >> ad nauseum.
> But only against judges who are NOT a part of the religious/ > political extremist right.
Very true!! The RRR cult refers to the judges who disagree with them as "activist" judges... as though "activist" is supposed to be some sort of pejorative term. (Compare "activist" to "lazy." Any appellate judge who does NOT actively do his job right, is the latter.)
And to the RRR cult -- while judges who properly interpret the Constitution with an eye to defending our personal liberties are hatefully referred to as "activist" judges... the judges who callously IGNORE parts of the Constitution which COULD be used to defend our liberties, with an eye INSTEAD to serving the loathsome and repressive agendas of the RRR... are called "constructionist" judges.
If the RRR weren't so good at LYING, they wouldn't be good for anything at all. With "friends" like the RRR infesting our nation, Americans don't need any enemies. They are as threat- ening to our liberties as the EXternal terrorists are to our infrastructure.
>> A phrase you'll NEVER hear him utter is: "checks and balances." >> >> (That would be HONEST!) >> >> AS an accomplished lawyer, he KNOWS that the Constitution >> purposely **calls** for appellate court judges TO be appointed! >> It's a fundamental and constitutional part of our system! >> >> So he's either an ignoramus... which we've ruled out -- OR he's a >> LIAR, for directly implying that the judges in Massachusetts who >> declared the INCLUSION of same- couples in marriage to be >> constitutional got there IMPROPERLY. And that they didn't have >> the RIGHT to interpret the Constitution in that manner.
> He's a lawyer ..... > and he's a right wing fanatic.... > either of which should be enough to question ANYTHING he says.
-- Craig Chilton
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Every time a person supports bigotry in public, and presents NO relevant FACTS to back his/her stance in behalf of a loathsome agenda against individual liberties and human rights, that person has -- ironically -- further **damaged** the cause he/she supports.
And every time a fair-minded and sensible egalitarian opposes such a bigot, publicly, and **presents** relevant FACTS that are damaging to the bigot's agenda, that TOO is an additional nail in the coffin lid of the agenda, and a push of that casket CLOSER to the Drain of Extinction -- its well-deserved ultimate destination. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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 | | From: | Bonnie Bitch | | Subject: | Re: Jay Sekulow and his "ACLJ" -- PROVE that RRR's leaders TARGET the profoundly ignorant, for recruitment. | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:22:41 -0800 |
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 | On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:09:20 GMT, xanadu222_@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,463 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!!) wrote:
>The RRR cult refers to the judges who disagree with >them as "activist" judges... as though "activist" is supposed to be >some sort of pejorative term. (Compare "activist" to "lazy." Any >appellate judge who does NOT actively do his job right, is the >latter.) > > And to the RRR cult -- while judges who properly interpret >the Constitution with an eye to defending our personal liberties >are hatefully referred to as "activist" judges... the judges who >callously IGNORE parts of the Constitution which COULD be >used to defend our liberties, with an eye INSTEAD to serving >the loathsome and repressive agendas of the RRR... are called >"constructionist" judges.
Good point, once again, my dear, darling Craig!
And just as a further note -- ya gotta wonder if these assloaves shit their brains out piecemeal or all at once, because they obviously haven't noticed that these same "activist" judges are the ones who consistently rule on their side in matters of religious freedoms, like when their offspring (usually from the first of their five marriages) want to wear the replicas of their dead savior on a stick to public school. Of course, they also piss and moan (usually in a strong backdraft) about the ACLU, the only people who pity the assloaves enough to argue their cases in court for them -- FOR FREE, no less. It just boggles my mind. But you wait and see -- if (Gong Gong forbid) they get their way and have these eeeeevil activist judges removed or replaced with what they think they want, they are going to howl like wounded banshees when the replacement judges start curtailing their own liberties. Of course, by that time, I will be laughing at them from my new country of residence, grateful that I got the fuck out in time. But that's just me.
DIVERSITY -- PARTY OF ONE -- YOUR CELEBRATION HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!
Belated Happy MLK,Jr.Day -- Bonnie Bitch
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 | | From: | Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,463 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!! | | Subject: | Re: Jay Sekulow and his "ACLJ" -- PROVE that RRR's leaders TARGET the profoundly ignorant, for recruitment. | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:41:08 GMT |
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 | On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:22:41 -0800, "Bonnie Bitch" wrote: > Craig Chilton wrote:
>> The RRR cult refers to the judges who disagree withthem >> as "activist" judges... as though "activist" is supposed to be >> some sort of pejorative term. (Compare "activist" to "lazy." Any >> appellate judge who does NOT actively do his job right, is the >> latter.) >> >> And to the RRR cult -- while judges who properly interpret >> the Constitution with an eye to defending our personal liberties >> are hatefully referred to as "activist" judges... the judges who >> callously IGNORE parts of the Constitution which COULD be >> used to defend our liberties, with an eye INSTEAD to serving >> the loathsome and repressive agendas of the RRR... are called >> "constructionist" judges.
> Good point, once again, my dear, darling Craig!
Thank you.
> And just as a further note -- ya gotta wonder if these assloaves shit > their brains out piecemeal or all at once, because they obviously > haven't noticed that these same "activist" judges are the ones who > consistently rule on their side in matters of religious freedoms, like > when their offspring (usually from the first of their five marriages) > want to wear the replicas of their dead savior on a stick to public > school. > > Of course, they also piss and moan (usually in a strong backdraft) > about the ACLU, the only people who pity the assloaves enough to > argue their cases in court for them -- FOR FREE, no less.
HYPOCRISY is one of the RRR cult's long suits. Right up there with hatefulness and abject ignorance.
> It just boggles my mind. But you wait and see -- if (Gong Gong forbid) > they get their way and have these eeeeevil activist judges removed or > replaced with what they think they want, they are going to howl like > wounded banshees when the replacement judges start curtailing their > own liberties. > > Of course, by that time, I will be laughing at them from my new > country of residence, grateful that I got the fuck out in time. > But that's just me.
I encourage you to stick around with me and fight the good fight. No matter what, we ultimately WILL prevail. (Remember the French Resistance!)
>DIVERSITY -- PARTY OF ONE -- YOUR CELEBRATION HAS BEGUN!!!!!!! > >Belated Happy MLK,Jr.Day -- >Bonnie Bitch
The greatest danger to America's personal liberties NOW (since Bush unfortunately got himself barely elected) is for retiring Supreme Court justices to be replaced with ones who ARE cultists of the "Religious" Radical Right... who then will proceed to "theocratize" America right OUT of being a free country.
That is something that the PEOPLE absolutely MUST finally get off their apathetic butts about, and OPPOSE --- ***VIGOROUSLY***.
Freedom isn't free, and we're in grave danger of being taught that lesson again. THIS time, from WITHIN.
RRR : society :: 5% arsenic solution : glass of drinking water
-- Craig Chilton
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Every time a person supports bigotry in public, and presents NO relevant FACTS to back his/her stance in behalf of a loathsome agenda against individual liberties and human rights, that person has -- ironically -- further **damaged** the cause he/she supports.
And every time a fair-minded and sensible egalitarian opposes such a bigot, publicly, and **presents** relevant FACTS that are damaging to the bigot's agenda, that TOO is an additional nail in the coffin lid of the agenda, and a push of that casket CLOSER to the Drain of Extinction -- its well-deserved ultimate destination. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
(E-Mail address is valid when removing _ from it.)
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 | | From: | Bonnie Bitch | | Subject: | Re: Jay Sekulow and his "ACLJ" -- PROVE that RRR's leaders TARGET the profoundly ignorant, for recruitment. | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:58:23 -0800 |
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 | On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:41:08 GMT, xanadu222_@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,463 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!!) wrote:
>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:22:41 -0800, >"Bonnie Bitch" wrote: >> Craig Chilton wrote: > > >>> The RRR cult refers to the judges who disagree withthem >>> as "activist" judges... as though "activist" is supposed to be >>> some sort of pejorative term. (Compare "activist" to "lazy." Any >>> appellate judge who does NOT actively do his job right, is the >>> latter.) >>> >>> And to the RRR cult -- while judges who properly interpret >>> the Constitution with an eye to defending our personal liberties >>> are hatefully referred to as "activist" judges... the judges who >>> callously IGNORE parts of the Constitution which COULD be >>> used to defend our liberties, with an eye INSTEAD to serving >>> the loathsome and repressive agendas of the RRR... are called >>> "constructionist" judges. > >> Good point, once again, my dear, darling Craig! > > Thank you.
You're welcome. I just love it when you hit on an issue near and dear to my heart!
>> And just as a further note -- ya gotta wonder if these assloaves shit >> their brains out piecemeal or all at once, because they obviously >> haven't noticed that these same "activist" judges are the ones who >> consistently rule on their side in matters of religious freedoms, like >> when their offspring (usually from the first of their five marriages) >> want to wear the replicas of their dead savior on a stick to public >> school. >> >> Of course, they also piss and moan (usually in a strong backdraft) >> about the ACLU, the only people who pity the assloaves enough to >> argue their cases in court for them -- FOR FREE, no less. > > HYPOCRISY is one of the RRR cult's long suits. Right up there >with hatefulness and abject ignorance.
With some bigotry dressing on that salad.
>> It just boggles my mind. But you wait and see -- if (Gong Gong forbid) >> they get their way and have these eeeeevil activist judges removed or >> replaced with what they think they want, they are going to howl like >> wounded banshees when the replacement judges start curtailing their >> own liberties. >> >> Of course, by that time, I will be laughing at them from my new >> country of residence, grateful that I got the fuck out in time. >> But that's just me. > > I encourage you to stick around with me and fight the good fight. >No matter what, we ultimately WILL prevail. (Remember the French >Resistance!)
Uhm, yeah, and most of them got shot in the head. Being the paranoid (or maybe not) person that I am, I fully expect that Dumbya will declare martial law sometime during late '05 05 early '06, citing yet another foe from within, and this time it will include GLBT people.
>>DIVERSITY -- PARTY OF ONE -- YOUR CELEBRATION HAS BEGUN!!!!!!! >> >>Belated Happy MLK,Jr.Day -- >>Bonnie Bitch > > The greatest danger to America's personal liberties NOW (since >Bush unfortunately got himself barely elected)
Ya know, the those Republ;iCUNT godbots gloat, and the more they try to silence the "ther election was rigged" voices, I just gotta wonder if the little fucktard was legitimately elected.
> is for retiring Supreme >Court justices to be replaced with ones who ARE cultists of the >"Religious" Radical Right... who then will proceed to "theocratize" >America right OUT of being a free country.
Yup, that too. And then we're all fucked. Hosed. Screwed. > That is something that the PEOPLE absolutely MUST finally get >off their apathetic butts about, and OPPOSE --- ***VIGOROUSLY***.
But what's to stop Dumbya from doing a little executive order, installing the judges? Remember, we've got a RepubliCUNT congress, so a veto would be highly unlikely.
> Freedom isn't free, and we're in grave danger of being taught >that lesson again. THIS time, from WITHIN.
Yup. And anyone who doesn't see the signs needs to get the sight back in one eye, and take a little class called HISTORY.
> RRR : society :: 5% arsenic solution : glass of drinking water
Now if they would only take their own medicine.....
Belated Happy MLK,Jr.Day -- Bonnie Bitch
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 | | From: | Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,463 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!! | | Subject: | Re: Jay Sekulow and his "ACLJ" -- PROVE that RRR's leaders TARGET the profoundly ignorant, for recruitment. | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:10:19 GMT |
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 | On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:58:23 -0800, "Bonnie Bitch" wrote: > Craig Chilton wrote: >> "Bonnie Bitch" wrote: >>> Craig Chilton wrote:
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>>>> The RRR cult refers to the judges who disagree with them >>>> as "activist" judges... as though "activist" is supposed to be >>>> some sort of pejorative term. (Compare "activist" to "lazy." Any >>>> appellate judge who does NOT actively do his job right, is the >>>> latter.) >>>> >>>> And to the RRR cult -- while judges who properly interpret >>>> the Constitution with an eye to defending our personal liberties >>>> are hatefully referred to as "activist" judges... the judges who >>>> callously IGNORE parts of the Constitution which COULD be >>>> used to defend our liberties, with an eye INSTEAD to serving >>>> the loathsome and repressive agendas of the RRR... are called >>>> "constructionist" judges.
>>> Good point, once again, my dear, darling Craig!
>> Thank you.
> You're welcome. I just love it when you hit on an issue near and dear > to my heart!
>>> And just as a further note -- ya gotta wonder if these assloaves shit >>> their brains out piecemeal or all at once, because they obviously >>> haven't noticed that these same "activist" judges are the ones who >>> consistently rule on their side in matters of religious freedoms, like >>> when their offspring (usually from the first of their five marriages) >>> want to wear the replicas of their dead savior on a stick to public >>> school. >>> >>> Of course, they also piss and moan (usually in a strong backdraft) >>> about the ACLU, the only people who pity the assloaves enough to >>> argue their cases in court for them -- FOR FREE, no less.
>> HYPOCRISY is one of the RRR cult's long suits. Right up there >>with hatefulness and abject ignorance.
> With some bigotry dressing on that salad.
To be more concise, yes. (Hatefulness + ignorance = bigotry.)
>>> It just boggles my mind. But you wait and see -- if (Gong Gong forbid) >>> they get their way and have these eeeeevil activist judges removed or >>> replaced with what they think they want, they are going to howl like >>> wounded banshees when the replacement judges start curtailing their >>> own liberties. >>> >>> Of course, by that time, I will be laughing at them from my new >>> country of residence, grateful that I got the fuck out in time. >>> But that's just me.
>> I encourage you to stick around with me and fight the good fight. >> No matter what, we ultimately WILL prevail. (Remember the French >> Resistance!)
> Uhm, yeah, and most of them got shot in the head. Being the > paranoid (or maybe not) person that I am, I fully expect that Dumbya > will declare martial law sometime during late '05 or early '06, citing yet > another foe from within, and this time it will include GLBT people.
Even as a lame duck, I don't think he could even BEGIN to get away with doing *that.*
>>> DIVERSITY -- PARTY OF ONE -- YOUR CELEBRATION >>> HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!
>> The greatest danger to America's personal liberties NOW (since >> Bush unfortunately got himself barely elected)...
> Ya know, the those Republ;iCUNT godbots gloat, and the more > they try to silence the "ther election was rigged" voices, I just gotta > wonder if the little fucktard was legitimately elected.
Ask Diebold!! See: www.blackboxvoting.org if that site is still active.
>> ...is for retiring Supreme Court justices to be replaced with ones >> who ARE cultists of the "Religious" Radical Right... who then >> will proceed to "theocratize" America right OUT of being a free >> country.
> Yup, that too. And then we're all fucked. Hosed. Screwed.
If even so much as ONE egalitarian judge is replaced by a bigot, that will probably the case for as long as anyone reading this post today lives -- regardless of the age of the reader.
>> That is something that the PEOPLE absolutely MUST finally get >> off their apathetic butts about, and OPPOSE --- ***VIGOROUSLY***.
> But what's to stop Dumbya from doing a little executive order, > installing the judges? Remember, we've got a RepubliCUNT Congress, > so a veto would be highly unlikely.
Fortunately, executive orders have their limitations.
>> Freedom isn't free, and we're in grave danger of being taught >> that lesson again. THIS time, from WITHIN.
> Yup. And anyone who doesn't see the signs needs to get the > sight back in one eye, and take a little class called HISTORY.
Those who don't learn history's lessons are doomed to repeat some of its mistakes.
>> RRR : society :: 5% arsenic solution : glass of drinking water
> Now if they would only take their own medicine.....
LOL!!! We should BE so lucky!!
>Belated Happy MLK,Jr.Day -- >Bonnie Bitch
-- Craig Chilton
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Every time a person supports bigotry in public, and presents NO relevant FACTS to back his/her stance in behalf of a loathsome agenda against individual liberties and human rights, that person has -- ironically -- further **damaged** the cause he/she supports.
And every time a fair-minded and sensible egalitarian opposes such a bigot, publicly, and **presents** relevant FACTS that are damaging to the bigot's agenda, that TOO is an additional nail in the coffin lid of the agenda, and a push of that casket CLOSER to the Drain of Extinction -- its well-deserved ultimate destination. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
(E-Mail address is valid when removing _ from it.)
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 | | From: | Bonnie Bitch | | Subject: | Re: Jay Sekulow and his "ACLJ" -- PROVE that RRR's leaders TARGET the profoundly ignorant, for recruitment. | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:15:30 -0800 |
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 | On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:10:19 GMT, xanadu222_@mchsi.com (Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,463 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!!) wrote:
>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:58:23 -0800, >"Bonnie Bitch" wrote: >> Craig Chilton wrote: >>> "Bonnie Bitch" wrote: >>>> Craig Chilton wrote: > > >[ ... ] > >>>>> The RRR cult refers to the judges who disagree with them >>>>> as "activist" judges... as though "activist" is supposed to be >>>>> some sort of pejorative term. (Compare "activist" to "lazy." Any >>>>> appellate judge who does NOT actively do his job right, is the >>>>> latter.) >>>>> >>>>> And to the RRR cult -- while judges who properly interpret >>>>> the Constitution with an eye to defending our personal liberties >>>>> are hatefully referred to as "activist" judges... the judges who >>>>> callously IGNORE parts of the Constitution which COULD be >>>>> used to defend our liberties, with an eye INSTEAD to serving >>>>> the loathsome and repressive agendas of the RRR... are called >>>>> "constructionist" judges. > >>>> Good point, once again, my dear, darling Craig! > >>> Thank you. > >> You're welcome. I just love it when you hit on an issue near and dear >> to my heart! > >>>> And just as a further note -- ya gotta wonder if these assloaves shit >>>> their brains out piecemeal or all at once, because they obviously >>>> haven't noticed that these same "activist" judges are the ones who >>>> consistently rule on their side in matters of religious freedoms, like >>>> when their offspring (usually from the first of their five marriages) >>>> want to wear the replicas of their dead savior on a stick to public >>>> school. >>>> >>>> Of course, they also piss and moan (usually in a strong backdraft) >>>> about the ACLU, the only people who pity the assloaves enough to >>>> argue their cases in court for them -- FOR FREE, no less. > >>> HYPOCRISY is one of the RRR cult's long suits. Right up there >>>with hatefulness and abject ignorance. > >> With some bigotry dressing on that salad. > > To be more concise, yes. (Hatefulness + ignorance = bigotry.)
bigotry leads to unsightly assloafiness, too.
>>>> It just boggles my mind. But you wait and see -- if (Gong Gong forbid) >>>> they get their way and have these eeeeevil activist judges removed or >>>> replaced with what they think they want, they are going to howl like >>>> wounded banshees when the replacement judges start curtailing their >>>> own liberties. >>>> >>>> Of course, by that time, I will be laughing at them from my new >>>> country of residence, grateful that I got the fuck out in time. >>>> But that's just me. > >>> I encourage you to stick around with me and fight the good fight. >>> No matter what, we ultimately WILL prevail. (Remember the French >>> Resistance!) > >> Uhm, yeah, and most of them got shot in the head. Being the >> paranoid (or maybe not) person that I am, I fully expect that Dumbya >> will declare martial law sometime during late '05 or early '06, citing yet >> another foe from within, and this time it will include GLBT people. > > Even as a lame duck, I don't think he could even BEGIN to get >away with doing *that.*
I hope not. Then again, I am paranoid....
>>>> DIVERSITY -- PARTY OF ONE -- YOUR CELEBRATION >>>> HAS BEGUN!!!!!!! > >>> The greatest danger to America's personal liberties NOW (since >>> Bush unfortunately got himself barely elected)... > >> Ya know, the those Republ;iCUNT godbots gloat, and the more >> they try to silence the "ther election was rigged" voices, I just gotta >> wonder if the little fucktard was legitimately elected. > > Ask Diebold!! See: www.blackboxvoting.org if that site is still >active.
Great site! TYVM!
>>> ...is for retiring Supreme Court justices to be replaced with ones >>> who ARE cultists of the "Religious" Radical Right... who then >>> will proceed to "theocratize" America right OUT of being a free >>> country. > >> Yup, that too. And then we're all fucked. Hosed. Screwed. > > If even so much as ONE egalitarian judge is replaced by a bigot, >that will probably the case for as long as anyone reading this post >today lives -- regardless of the age of the reader.
Yup. LIke I said - fucked, hosed, and screwed. >>> That is something that the PEOPLE absolutely MUST finally get >>> off their apathetic butts about, and OPPOSE --- ***VIGOROUSLY***. > >> But what's to stop Dumbya from doing a little executive order, >> installing the judges? Remember, we've got a RepubliCUNT Congress, >> so a veto would be highly unlikely. > > Fortunately, executive orders have their limitations.
Let's hope Führer George remembers that.
>>> Freedom isn't free, and we're in grave danger of being taught >>> that lesson again. THIS time, from WITHIN. > >> Yup. And anyone who doesn't see the signs needs to get the >> sight back in one eye, and take a little class called HISTORY. > > Those who don't learn history's lessons are doomed to repeat some >of its mistakes.
Try all!
>>> RRR : society :: 5% arsenic solution : glass of drinking water > >> Now if they would only take their own medicine..... > > LOL!!! We should BE so lucky!!
Maybe if we mixed it with some grape Kool-Aid?
Belated Happy MLK,Jr.Day -- Bonnie Bitch > > > > -- Craig Chilton > >~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Every time a person supports bigotry in public, and presents NO > relevant FACTS to back his/her stance in behalf of a loathsome > agenda against individual liberties and human rights, that person > has -- ironically -- further **damaged** the cause he/she supports. > > And every time a fair-minded and sensible egalitarian opposes > such a bigot, publicly, and **presents** relevant FACTS that are > damaging to the bigot's agenda, that TOO is an additional nail in > the coffin lid of the agenda, and a push of that casket CLOSER > to the Drain of Extinction -- its well-deserved ultimate destination. >~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > (E-Mail address is valid when removing _ from it.)
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 | | From: | Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,463 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!! | | Subject: | Re: Jay Sekulow and his "ACLJ" -- PROVE that RRR's leaders TARGET the profoundly ignorant, for recruitment. | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:23:47 GMT |
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 | On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:15:30 -0800, Bonnie Bitch wrote: > Craig Chilton wrote: >> "Bonnie Bitch" wrote: >>> Craig Chilton wrote: >>>> "Bonnie Bitch" wrote: >>>>> Craig Chilton wrote:
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>>>>>> The RRR cult refers to the judges who disagree with them >>>>>> as "activist" judges... as though "activist" is supposed to be >>>>>> some sort of pejorative term. (Compare "activist" to "lazy." Any >>>>>> appellate judge who does NOT actively do his job right, is the >>>>>> latter.) >>>>>> >>>>>> And to the RRR cult -- while judges who properly interpret >>>>>> the Constitution with an eye to defending our personal liberties >>>>>> are hatefully referred to as "activist" judges... the judges who >>>>>> callously IGNORE parts of the Constitution which COULD be >>>>>> used to defend our liberties, with an eye INSTEAD to serving >>>>>> the loathsome and repressive agendas of the RRR... are called >>>>>> "constructionist" judges.
>>>>> Good point, once again, my dear, darling Craig!
>>>> Thank you.
>>> You're welcome. I just love it when you hit on an issue near and >>> dear to my heart!
>>>>> And just as a further note -- ya gotta wonder if these assloaves shit >>>>> their brains out piecemeal or all at once, because they obviously >>>>> haven't noticed that these same "activist" judges are the ones who >>>>> consistently rule on their side in matters of religious freedoms, like >>>>> when their offspring (usually from the first of their five marriages) >>>>> want to wear the replicas of their dead savior on a stick to public >>>>> school. >>>>> >>>>> Of course, they also piss and moan (usually in a strong backdraft) >>>>> about the ACLU, the only people who pity the assloaves enough to >>>>> argue their cases in court for them -- FOR FREE, no less.
>>>> HYPOCRISY is one of the RRR cult's long suits. Right up there >>>> with hatefulness and abject ignorance.
>>> With some bigotry dressing on that salad.
>> To be more concise, yes. (Hatefulness + ignorance = bigotry.)
> Bigotry leads to unsightly assloafiness, too.
Just as I was about to respond here, one of those little pieces of advice that NBC-TV gives ("The more you know...") came on:
"Two things to avoid around the house: hate and prejudice.
NEVER let them in!"
That says it ALL!!
>>>>> It just boggles my mind. But you wait and see -- if (Gong Gong forbid) >>>>> they get their way and have these eeeeevil activist judges removed or >>>>> replaced with what they think they want, they are going to howl like >>>>> wounded banshees when the replacement judges start curtailing their >>>>> own liberties. >>>>> >>>>> Of course, by that time, I will be laughing at them from my new >>>>> country of residence, grateful that I got the fuck out in time. >>>>> But that's just me.
>>>> I encourage you to stick around with me and fight the good fight. >>>> No matter what, we ultimately WILL prevail. (Remember the French >>>> Resistance!)
>>> Uhm, yeah, and most of them got shot in the head. Being the >>> paranoid (or maybe not) person that I am, I fully expect that Dumbya >>> will declare martial law sometime during late '05 or early '06, citing yet >>> another foe from within, and this time it will include GLBT people.
>> Even as a lame duck, I don't think he could even BEGIN to get >> away with doing *that.*
> I hope not. Then again, I am paranoid....
Think positively. It's the BEST way to fight the bigots.
>>>>> DIVERSITY -- PARTY OF ONE -- YOUR CELEBRATION >>>>> HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!
>>>> The greatest danger to America's personal liberties NOW (since >>>> Bush unfortunately got himself barely elected)...
>>> Ya know, the those Republ;iCUNT godbots gloat, and the more >>> they try to silence the "ther election was rigged" voices, I just gotta >>> wonder if the little fucktard was legitimately elected.
>> Ask Diebold!! See: www.blackboxvoting.org if that site is still >> active.
> Great site! TYVM!
You're very welcome. I'm glad it's still active!
>>>> ...is for retiring Supreme Court justices to be replaced with ones >>>> who ARE cultists of the "Religious" Radical Right... who then >>>> will proceed to "theocratize" America right OUT of being a free >>>> country.
>>> Yup, that too. And then we're all fucked. Hosed. Screwed.
>> If even so much as ONE egalitarian judge is replaced by a bigot, >> that will probably the case for as long as anyone reading this post >> today lives -- regardless of the age of the reader.
> Yup. LIke I said - fucked, hosed, and screwed.
I'll re-post an admonition that I put up BEFORE the disastrous election, that covers what we may be in for in more depth. We can't undo the election (unfortunately) -- but knowing what we now must deal with, may help us to strategize better.
It's entitled:
Next Supreme Court Justice: Affirmation of Liberty, or Unthinkable Tyranny will Result.
I just now posted it, and it'll be on your server in all of the newsgroups that this thread is reaching.
>>>> That is something that the PEOPLE absolutely MUST finally get >>>> off their apathetic butts about, and OPPOSE --- ***VIGOROUSLY***.
>>> But what's to stop Dumbya from doing a little executive order, >>> installing the judges? Remember, we've got a RepubliCUNT Congress, >>> so a veto would be highly unlikely.
>> Fortunately, executive orders have their limitations.
> Let's hope Führer George remembers that.
Or -- that if he doesn't, he gets a good, swift kick in the butt from those empowered to limit him.
>>>> Freedom isn't free, and we're in grave danger of being taught >>>> that lesson again. THIS time, from WITHIN.
>>> Yup. And anyone who doesn't see the signs needs to get the >>> sight back in one eye, and take a little class called HISTORY.
>> Those who don't learn history's lessons are doomed to repeat some >> of its mistakes.
> Try all!
In keeping with my being scrupulously honest in my posts (to the unceasing frustration of the RRR cultists who'd just LOVE to catch me in a slip-up in that regard... but never can)... I was allowing for the possibility that the mistake-makers might not come up with ALL of the *same* mistakes to repeat. :)
>>>> RRR : society :: 5% arsenic solution : glass of drinking water
>>> Now if they would only take their own medicine.....
>> LOL!!! We should BE so lucky!!
> Maybe if we mixed it with some grape Kool-Aid?
LOL!!!!
-- Craig Chilton
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Every time a person supports bigotry in public, and presents NO relevant FACTS to back his/her stance in behalf of a loathsome agenda against individual liberties and human rights, that person has -- ironically -- further **damaged** the cause he/she supports.
And every time a fair-minded and sensible egalitarian opposes such a bigot, publicly, and **presents** relevant FACTS that are damaging to the bigot's agenda, that TOO is an additional nail in the coffin lid of the agenda, and a push of that casket CLOSER to the Drain of Extinction -- its well-deserved ultimate destination. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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 | | From: | Mark Sebree | | Subject: | Re: Jay Sekulow and his "ACLJ" -- PROVE that RRR's leaders TARGET the profoundly ignorant, for recruitment. | | Date: | 23 Jan 2005 19:52:58 -0800 |
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 | Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,463 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!! wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:15:30 -0800, > Bonnie Bitch wrote: > > Craig Chilton wrote: > >> "Bonnie Bitch" wrote: > >>> Craig Chilton wrote: > >>>> "Bonnie Bitch" wrote: > >>>>> Craig Chilton wrote: > > [ ... ] > > >>>>>> The RRR cult refers to the judges who disagree with them > >>>>>> as "activist" judges... as though "activist" is supposed to be > >>>>>> some sort of pejorative term. (Compare "activist" to "lazy." Any > >>>>>> appellate judge who does NOT actively do his job right, is the > >>>>>> latter.) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> And to the RRR cult -- while judges who properly interpret
> >>>>>> the Constitution with an eye to defending our personal liberties > >>>>>> are hatefully referred to as "activist" judges... the judges who > >>>>>> callously IGNORE parts of the Constitution which COULD be > >>>>>> used to defend our liberties, with an eye INSTEAD to serving > >>>>>> the loathsome and repressive agendas of the RRR... are called > >>>>>> "constructionist" judges. > > >>>>> Good point, once again, my dear, darling Craig! > > >>>> Thank you. > > >>> You're welcome. I just love it when you hit on an issue near and > >>> dear to my heart! > > >>>>> And just as a further note -- ya gotta wonder if these assloaves shit > >>>>> their brains out piecemeal or all at once, because they obviously > >>>>> haven't noticed that these same "activist" judges are the ones who > >>>>> consistently rule on their side in matters of religious freedoms, like > >>>>> when their offspring (usually from the first of their five marriages) > >>>>> want to wear the replicas of their dead savior on a stick to public > >>>>> school. > >>>>> > >>>>> Of course, they also piss and moan (usually in a strong backdraft) > >>>>> about the ACLU, the only people who pity the assloaves enough to > >>>>> argue their cases in court for them -- FOR FREE, no less. > > >>>> HYPOCRISY is one of the RRR cult's long suits. Right up there > >>>> with hatefulness and abject ignorance. > > >>> With some bigotry dressing on that salad. > > >> To be more concise, yes. (Hatefulness + ignorance =3D bigotry.) > > > Bigotry leads to unsightly assloafiness, too. > > Just as I was about to respond here, one of those little pieces of > advice that NBC-TV gives ("The more you know...") came on: > > "Two things to avoid around the house: hate and prejudice. > > NEVER let them in!" > > That says it ALL!! > > >>>>> It just boggles my mind. But you wait and see -- if (Gong Gong forbid) > >>>>> they get their way and have these eeeeevil activist judges removed or > >>>>> replaced with what they think they want, they are going to howl like > >>>>> wounded banshees when the replacement judges start curtailing their > >>>>> own liberties. > >>>>> > >>>>> Of course, by that time, I will be laughing at them from my new > >>>>> country of residence, grateful that I got the fuck out in time.
> >>>>> But that's just me. > > >>>> I encourage you to stick around with me and fight the good fight. > >>>> No matter what, we ultimately WILL prevail. (Remember the French > >>>> Resistance!) > > >>> Uhm, yeah, and most of them got shot in the head. Being the > >>> paranoid (or maybe not) person that I am, I fully expect that Dumbya > >>> will declare martial law sometime during late '05 or early '06, citing yet > >>> another foe from within, and this time it will include GLBT people. > > >> Even as a lame duck, I don't think he could even BEGIN to get > >> away with doing *that.* > > > I hope not. Then again, I am paranoid.... > > Think positively. It's the BEST way to fight the bigots. > > >>>>> DIVERSITY -- PARTY OF ONE -- YOUR CELEBRATION > >>>>> HAS BEGUN!!!!!!! > > >>>> The greatest danger to America's personal liberties NOW (since > >>>> Bush unfortunately got himself barely elected)... > > >>> Ya know, the those Republ;iCUNT godbots gloat, and the more > >>> they try to silence the "ther election was rigged" voices, I just gotta > >>> wonder if the little fucktard was legitimately elected. > > >> Ask Diebold!! See: www.blackboxvoting.org if that site is still > >> active. > > > Great site! TYVM! > > You're very welcome. I'm glad it's still active! >
I hope that it stays active. As it stands, there are too few checks on the new voting machines, and there are too many ways to add cheats into the system that make sure a particular candidate or party wins which are also undetectable UNLESS you know what you are looking for. And I know of what I speak, my Masters in in Applied Computer Science.
Simple, straight forward ways that checks could be added into the system that would make such cheating and "ballot box stuffing" harder to do. And to the best of my knowledge, none of these additions would threaten voter privacy, while they would make cheating harder.
1=2E the programming becomes open source, so everyone can check the validity and security of the code, especially for hidden traps and changes on the tallying on the fly.
2=2E Every voter gets a time stamped, bar coded printout of their votes. Simple register tape would do, and is freely available. 2=2Ea. As the paper tape is made for the voter, and identical tape is make to store in the machine. 2=2Eb. A reader is available at the voting site that is programmed to read the voter's tape, and display whom they voted for. 2=2Ec. The voter can all request that his/her votes from the machine be read using a hand-held reader if a possible discrepancy has appeared. The access to this can be through a glass plate over the tape, and a locked door with an access counter. 2=2Ed. If the voter thinks that there is a discrepancy, the voter can feed his "receipt" back into the machine, where the machine displays the previous votes, and then voids the old votes on the permanent tape, and preferably on the voter's tape. The voter can then vote again. 2=2Ee. In order to keep the ballot box stuffing down (I am not naive enough to think that you can do away with it completely), a change in ballot can only be down on the same machine (which is NOT encoded into the voter's tape) and within a certain amount of time, say 10 - 15 minutes.
3=2E The use of the paper tape can aid in recounts, since the tape can be fed through a reader, and checked rapidly. If a hand recount is needed, the tape can be checked by the same type of hand readers that are used on site.
The biggest problems with the current machines by Diebold (besides the fact that the Board includes friends of Bush), is that there is no way to check the votes besides the electronic tally, and there are too many ways to mess with the machines internally. That is why so many people were against the use of the machines this year.
Mark Sebree
> >>>> ...is for retiring Supreme Court justices to be replaced with ones > >>>> who ARE cultists of the "Religious" Radical Right... who then > >>>> will proceed to "theocratize" America right OUT of being a free > >>>> country. > > >>> Yup, that too. And then we're all fucked. Hosed. Screwed. > > >> If even so much as ONE egalitarian judge is replaced by a bigot, > >> that will probably the case for as long as anyone reading this post > >> today lives -- regardless of the age of the reader. > > > Yup. LIke I said - fucked, hosed, and screwed. > > I'll re-post an admonition that I put up BEFORE the disastrous > election, that covers what we may be in for in more depth. We can't > undo the election (unfortunately) -- but knowing what we now must > deal with, may help us to strategize better. > > It's entitled: > > Next Supreme Court Justice: Affirmation of Liberty, > or Unthinkable Tyranny will Result. > > I just now posted it, and it'll be on your server in all of the > newsgroups that this thread is reaching. > > >>>> That is something that the PEOPLE absolutely MUST finally get > >>>> off their apathetic butts about, and OPPOSE --- ***VIGOROUSLY***. > > >>> But what's to stop Dumbya from doing a little executive order, > >>> installing the judges? Remember, we've got a RepubliCUNT Congress, > >>> so a veto would be highly unlikely. > > >> Fortunately, executive orders have their limitations. > > > Let's hope F=FChrer George remembers that. > > Or -- that if he doesn't, he gets a good, swift kick in the butt > from those empowered to limit him. > > >>>> Freedom isn't free, and we're in grave danger of being taught > >>>> that lesson again. THIS time, from WITHIN. > > >>> Yup. And anyone who doesn't see the signs needs to get the > >>> sight back in one eye, and take a little class called HISTORY. > > >> Those who don't learn history's lessons are doomed to repeat some > >> of its mistakes. > > > Try all! > > In keeping with my being scrupulously honest in my posts (to the > unceasing frustration of the RRR cultists who'd just LOVE to catch > me in a slip-up in that regard... but never can)... I was allowing for > the possibility that the mistake-makers might not come up with ALL > of the *same* mistakes to repeat. :) > > >>>> RRR : society :: 5% arsenic solution : glass of drinking water > > >>> Now if they would only take their own medicine..... > > >> LOL!!! We should BE so lucky!! > > > Maybe if we mixed it with some grape Kool-Aid? > > LOL!!!! > > > > -- Craig Chilton > > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Every time a person supports bigotry in public, and presents NO > relevant FACTS to back his/her stance in behalf of a loathsome > agenda against individual liberties and human rights, that person > has -- ironically -- further **damaged** the cause he/she supports. > > And every time a fair-minded and sensible egalitarian opposes > such a bigot, publicly, and **presents** relevant FACTS that are > damaging to the bigot's agenda, that TOO is an additional nail in > the coffin lid of the agenda, and a push of that casket CLOSER > to the Drain of Extinction -- its well-deserved ultimate destination. > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* >=20 > (E-Mail address is valid when removing _ from it.)
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