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 | | From: | Eric B Dangerfield | | Subject: | My Cousin Asks Me To Explain The Gospel | | Date: | Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:41:12 GMT |
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 | On Wednesday night, I had a dream where I was talking with my cousing Barry
who is in prison on a very long sentence. He asked me "What does the Gospel
mean?" I answered, "The gospel means that Jesus Christ died on the cross
for our sins, was buried for three days, resurrected on the third day, and
ascended into heaven where He sits on the right hand side of God's throne
making intercession for you and me." Then, I awakened.
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| | From: | personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk | | Subject: | Re: My Cousin Asks Me To Explain The Gospel | | Date: | Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:51:04 -0600 |
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| "Eric B Dangerfield" wrote in message
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> On Wednesday night, I had a dream where I was talking with my cousing
> Barry
> who is in prison on a very long sentence. He asked me "What does the
> Gospel
> mean?" I answered, "The gospel means that Jesus Christ died on the cross
> for our sins, was buried for three days, resurrected on the third day, and
> ascended into heaven where He sits on the right hand side of God's throne
> making intercession for you and me." Then, I awakened.
Since Jesus died for our sins, I say "Let's not disappoint Him!" :-)
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| | From: | Ninth Commandment | | Subject: | Re: My Cousin Asks Me To Explain The Gospel | | Date: | Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:00:07 GMT |
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| Actually he wandered around for a week after his resurrection then
went to heaven. I'm bummed out that since becoming a Christian I have
more nightmares and unpleasant dreams than I had in my entire life. I
only had one bad nightmare in my life before and have had more
nightmares than there are prophecies and parables in the bible since.
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:41:12 GMT, "Eric B Dangerfield"
wrote:
>On Wednesday night, I had a dream where I was talking with my cousing Barry
>who is in prison on a very long sentence. He asked me "What does the Gospel
>mean?" I answered, "The gospel means that Jesus Christ died on the cross
>for our sins, was buried for three days, resurrected on the third day, and
>ascended into heaven where He sits on the right hand side of God's throne
>making intercession for you and me." Then, I awakened.
>
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| | From: | personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk | | Subject: | Re: My Cousin Asks Me To Explain The Gospel | | Date: | Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:22:15 -0600 |
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| Ninth:
find yourself a red-letter edition of the New Testament, and read *only the
red parts*.
It will ease your mind considerably.
Silk.
"Ninth Commandment" wrote in message
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> Actually he wandered around for a week after his resurrection then
> went to heaven. I'm bummed out that since becoming a Christian I have
> more nightmares and unpleasant dreams than I had in my entire life. I
> only had one bad nightmare in my life before and have had more
> nightmares than there are prophecies and parables in the bible since.
>
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:41:12 GMT, "Eric B Dangerfield"
> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday night, I had a dream where I was talking with my cousing
>>Barry
>>who is in prison on a very long sentence. He asked me "What does the
>>Gospel
>>mean?" I answered, "The gospel means that Jesus Christ died on the cross
>>for our sins, was buried for three days, resurrected on the third day, and
>>ascended into heaven where He sits on the right hand side of God's throne
>>making intercession for you and me." Then, I awakened.
>>
>
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| | From: | p fogg | | Subject: | Re: My Cousin Asks Me To Explain The Gospel | | Date: | Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:18:43 GMT |
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| "personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk" wrote in message
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> Ninth:
>
> find yourself a red-letter edition of the New Testament, and read *only
the
> red parts*.
>
> It will ease your mind considerably.
Oh! Okay! Here are of my juicy faves from the red parts where Jesus's eyes
glaze over and he talks at length about burning folks in hell. The link is
to the Gospel according to Matthew as published in the King James Bible
(available online!), from whence I copied the text below. I especially like
the last bit where he says he is personally going to see to it that the
unrighteous will be cast into everlasting punishment.
Personally I am not fond of Ted Bundy, but I wouldn't burn him for eternity
in a lake of fire, and I don't think I'm alone in that sentiment. I have a
lot of problems with Christianity, but this is the most ridiculous.
http://etext.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=KjvMatt.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=all
Matthew 5:22: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother
without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say
to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall
say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Matthew 13:49: So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come
forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
Matthew 13:50: And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be
wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 18:8: Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off,
and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or
maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting
fire.
Matthew 18:9: And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from
thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than
having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Matthew 25:41 through 25:46
31: When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels
with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them
one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
/snip/
41: Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye
cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave
me no drink:
43: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not:
sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44: Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an
hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did
not minister unto thee?
45: Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye
did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46: And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous
into life eternal.
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| | From: | personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk | | Subject: | Re: My Cousin Asks Me To Explain The Gospel | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:10:25 -0600 |
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| "p fogg" wrote in message
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> Oh! Okay! Here are of my juicy faves from the red parts where Jesus's
> eyes
> glaze over and he talks at length about burning folks in hell. The link
> is
> to the Gospel according to Matthew as published in the King James Bible
> (available online!), from whence I copied the text below. I especially
> like
> the last bit where he says he is personally going to see to it that the
> unrighteous will be cast into everlasting punishment.
>
> Personally I am not fond of Ted Bundy, but I wouldn't burn him for
> eternity
> in a lake of fire, and I don't think I'm alone in that sentiment. I have
> a
> lot of problems with Christianity, but this is the most ridiculous.
>
> http://etext.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=KjvMatt.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=all
>
> Matthew 5:22: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother
> without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall
> say
> to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever
> shall
> say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
>
> Matthew 13:49: So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall
> come
> forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
> Matthew 13:50: And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall
> be
> wailing and gnashing of teeth.
I *think* he was quoting from the OT at that point. I'll have to double
check.
> Matthew 18:8: Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off,
> and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or
> maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into
> everlasting
> fire.
> Matthew 18:9: And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from
> thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than
> having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
This goes on to a conclusion, if I'm not mistaken, and if not in this
chapter, then possibly in a different one: That is, Jesus summed up those
verses 8 and 9 by stating that "I say to you that you should love thine
enemy," rather than hate him or take an eye for an eye. I'll eventually get
around to spotting that chapter, but for now it's late and I'm over worked
and under-slept.
> Matthew 25:41 through 25:46
>
> 31: When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels
> with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
> 32: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate
> them
> one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
> 33: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the
> left.
well... *SOME* body has to do it, eh???
> 41: Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye
> cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
> 42: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye
> gave
> me no drink:
> 43: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not:
> sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
> 44: Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an
> hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and
> did
> not minister unto thee?
> 45: Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as
> ye
> did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
> 46: And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous
> into life eternal.
Makes good sense to me. What?
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| | From: | p fogg | | Subject: | Re: My Cousin Asks Me To Explain The Gospel (OT) | | Date: | Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:27:26 GMT |
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| "Ninth Commandment" wrote in message
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> I'm bummed out that since becoming a Christian I have
> more nightmares and unpleasant dreams than I had in my entire life. I
> only had one bad nightmare in my life before and have had more
> nightmares than there are prophecies and parables in the bible since.
Okay, if Mr. Dangerfield can spread the gospel according to Jaysis Krahst
inappropriately on alt.dreams, I spoze I can provide the antivenom of
Bertrand Russell.
Here's a link to the complete essay, "Why I am not a Christian."
http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/russell0.htm
Christianity provides comfort and joy for many, including my dear old ma and
pa, and for some reason only one of my six siblings. I say God bless 'em.
I *never* would try to argue a happy Christian out the faith that sustains
and nourishes them. However, for many others, Christianity produces fear,
anxiety, and remorse, so I say, read Bertrand Russell and be delivered!
Hallelujah! If you're strong in your faith, reading this essay won't shake
it. If Christianity is a burden and causes you pain, it may help you.
When I was 18, finding only pain and fear in Christianity, into which I was
indoctrinated as a child, a kind soul gave me a book in which this essay was
published, and thereby set me free. I am not an atheist, but in one fell
swoop I was relieved of the fear of hell and damnation and was able to
proceed with living.
The salient points really begin with "Defects in Christ's teaching," and the
sections that follow.
Good luck, happy dreaming, and happy living.
--Patti
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| | From: | Stacey Whaley | | Subject: | Re: My Cousin Asks Me To Explain The Gospel | | Date: | Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:15:59 GMT |
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| "Eric B Dangerfield" wrote in message
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> On Wednesday night, I had a dream where I was talking with my cousing
Barry
> who is in prison on a very long sentence. He asked me "What does the
Gospel
> mean?" I answered, "The gospel means that Jesus Christ died on the cross
> for our sins, was buried for three days, resurrected on the third day, and
> ascended into heaven where He sits on the right hand side of God's throne
> making intercession for you and me." Then, I awakened.
I have dreams about my own religion and spiritual path, too. Often they are
more far-out and have to be interpreted, but still, I have them.
-Stacey
internetstuff47129@yahoo.com
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