From:	personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk
Subject:	Warlock (a dream sequence, preceded by Mortal Kombat)
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:33:02 -0600

Normally, I don't just get up in the middle of the night and post a dream.
However...

Tonight was interesting :-)
It's 3:34 AM as I'm typing this line. I have just awakened from a suite of
dreams revolving around a theme that was just drawn to a conclusion by ... ?

Dream starts, as far back as I can recall, with playdough: blue and yellow,
mixing in my hands. I am, however, an adult, and finding it odd to be
playing with *fresh* playdough. The group of people I am with are leaving,
so I start to cram it all back into the nearest can and seek to get the lid
onto it quickly so as not to lose the rest of the group.

People are getting into their cars and driving off. I hop into *something*
on the plush side and off I go (In Real Life [IRL] I test drive cars, so
this is not that uncommon.) One of the places we go is a fireworks store
that's situated just off an interstate so that it sits less than a stone's
throw from a county border line where fireworks are not permitted.

Segue this dream with another segment, and even though I'm just writing
these down immediately after waking, the order in which these dream action
sequences take place is already a bit fuzzy in my waking mind: I'm
somewhere near my old elementary school, Reeves-Rogers. I'm kid-like in
this dream, perhaps a teenager, perhaps myself acting like one...
regardless, this youthful yet shorter, plumper, slower dude and I (taller,
leaner, better looking) are playing in a mock-battle: he's the troll-like
creature fighting from the ground, and I'm playing a winged
dragon-like-yet-human creature attacking from the air. Literally. I swoop
in and mercilessly tickle the kid and he rolls on the ground and laughs
helplessly, then I swoop back up while he tries to come at me with a wooden
sword, but to little use, because I'm already outside of / above his reach.

Someone like a cross between my dear ol' Mom (who turns 75 today) and a
teacher at the school (she also volunteered there for a few years, helping
out severely disadvantaged kids speaking English as a 2nd language) tells us
to come inside and stop acting like a bunch of ...? (children? yahoos?)...
then tries to ridicule us in front of the people gathered there. To make
her point, she says "I'll bet no one here can tell what you were doing out
there," as a challenge, and I take her up on her bet. Three people polled
had no idea, but the 4th person, a woman who reminds me IRL a great deal of
Stacey (a poster in some of these NGs) says "You're playing Mortal Kombat,"
and I replied with "well..... yes. That's a valid interpretation." This
shuts up whomever the older woman was (mother/teacher icon?) and the dream
progresses to another segment.

Everyone gets back in their cars and off we go. Only this time, I'm in
something much older and klunkier, and I'm thinking I've ended up in the
*wrong* car, as even my key seems halfway wrong: familiar, yet unfamiliar.
(IRL, I've test driven some real trash heaps as well!) We arrive at a
destination, and I find myself talking with "William", an older, wiser black
gentleman (from the South) who (IRL) used to (and probably still does) drive
mobile homes from the sales lot to their destination, then (we used to) set
them up. In this conversation, I find that I've been re-hired, as of
yesterday, and I didn't even know it. I'm kinda heart-felt sorry / crushed
for not having been there, but he's OK with this and says we can start in
two days. This triggers a dilemma in my mind, because I'm happy working
where I'm at now, in real life. ("How am I going to work two jobs???" I
wonder to myself.) Meanwhile, we have some training to get through.

Here's where the dream gets interesting:

Somewhere / somehow in the process of training, William is replaced by
Arnold Schwarzenegger, of all people. The training process is more like a
military boot camp, and I'm following his lead: he does something, I copy
him. The first obstacle is climbing poles that are at a 45° angle, rather
than straight up, and I shimmy on out there beside him on my own pole. From
here, he grabs a hanging rope and makes a leap somewhat like a barrel roll
and ends standing straight up, a bit off to the right. Ok, tricky, but I
manage to repeat the maneuver and end up perhaps within an inch of his
distance. I figure for a first-timer, an inch error isn't so bad, and we go
to the second obstacle:

(The exact sequence of what happened to *start* this obstacle is somewhat
lost in memory / fuzzy / vague, so I'm assuming it also dealt with ropes.)
He grabs a rope, and begins a swing, as one would over a pit in order to
clear it to the other side. Only instead of ending up exactly where one
would expect him to, he again takes a leap off the rope and ends up by
making a *hook-like* turn to the right (imagine an upside down J, lying flat
upon the ground, like a knight moves in chess, only to the right.) I
noticed his J-hook maneuver and comment: "You made a RIGHT turn in
mid-air!" to which he replied: "It's ok, it's an advanced maneuver, and if
you can't make it, we'll understand."

Remembering my earlier dream of playing the winged dragon, and gaining a
lucid moment in the dream at this point, I knew I could really show off
here. I didn't even use a rope: I slow-motion jumped into a flat position
(about chest high) through the air (for those of you who watch movies, this
could be related to a Matrix-type stunt.) I *glide* slowly and deliberately
forwards, then make a slight right turn (shorter distance than a full J
loop) and deliberately go past my touch-down mark. I rotate myself (like a
weather-vane pivots) mid-air, come back a little forwards, then set down,
standing straight up, perfectly upon my mark.

To say "the crowd goes wild" is both an exaggeration as well as an
understatement. A short, nearly plump, dark-haired, older (45-ish plus?)
woman in the group says, "You're a *WARLOCK!*" with an expression of
relieved glee. I replied, "Well, I always thought I was one, but never
really bothered to investigate." Then she adds, "We've been looking /
hoping for one for SO long now!" then quickly goes to tell the others.
Apparently, what "Arnold" had done before me was merely a trained mental /
athletic stunt, whereas what I had just done was a perfectly controlled,
perfectly executed, act of will (for you "Do what thou wilt" fans) that was
heretofore only thought of as a legendary ability, not something that an
actual human could possess. A woman who looks a LOT like Stacey (and is a
taller than average yet slim woman) comes up and says, "I hear you are a
Warlock!"
"Yeah, that's what they say. But I gotta admit, my feet are / still /
tingling (and they *were!*) from that last landing I just made."
(IRL, I woke up at this point and began setting out to pen this down.)

The question this raises to my mind is: is it possible to be a practicing
Christian and a warlock at the same time?
};^>

Dick Silk -- The Computer Tutor
http://personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk
for rates and online chat

- Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never
forgotten this.

From:	Stacey Whaley
Subject:	Re: Warlock (a dream sequence, preceded by Mortal Kombat)
Date:	18 Jan 2005 12:03:20 -0800

cust_support wrote:
> I said it before and I'll say it again: Dreams are a type of memory.
> Some memories are short-term, some are very old. Let's look at this
> fact about your childhood which you have provided (with no small
amount
> of personal trust):
>
> Someone like a cross between my dear ol' Mom (who turns 75 today) and
a
> teacher at the school (she also volunteered there for a few years,
> helping out severely disadvantaged kids speaking English as a 2nd
> language) tells us to come inside and stop acting like a bunch of
....?
> (children? yahoos?)... then tries to ridicule us in front of the
people
> gathered there.
>
> First, happy birthday to your mother, and let me also say sorry we
beat
> you up about spell-checking other people's posts. Now we know. It's
not
> simply your mother's noble crusade to help disadvantaged kids learn
> ESL. You have disclosed in your dream that her good influence on you
> was complicated by the strict teacher at school. Everyone, but
> EVERYONE, has had conflicts with teachers. It must have pained you as
a
> child to be caught between your mother's good deeds and your
teacher's
> impatience. This is known as a complex -a mild case, to be sure.
> Somebody else called it a compulsion. That's too strong, imho.
> Tell us about grade school. I've got a few of my own to tell. We can
> compare notes.
>
> *

Custy, I'm shocked. This is the most I've heard out of you since I've
been posting here. Wow. :)

Oh, and I agree with you. Now we know where Silk gets his obsession of
spell-/grammar- checking.

Dreams have so much to tell us. I don't know if I agree 100% with you
that they are simply memories, but I do agree with you maybe... I
dunno.. 35% to 45%? Something like that? ;)
-Stacey
internetstuff47129@yahoo.com

From:	personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk
Subject:	Re: Warlock (a dream sequence, preceded by Mortal Kombat)
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:00:07 -0600

"Stacey Whaley" wrote in message
news:1106078600.834480.222280@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> cust_support wrote:

> Custy, I'm shocked. This is the most I've heard out of you since I've
> been posting here. Wow. :)
>
> Oh, and I agree with you. Now we know where Silk gets his obsession of
> spell-/grammar- checking.
>
> Dreams have so much to tell us. I don't know if I agree 100% with you
> that they are simply memories, but I do agree with you maybe... I
> dunno.. 35% to 45%? Something like that? ;)

Oh Stacey! C'MONnnnn! We all KNOW you want to go ALL the way... ;^}

From:	cust_support
Subject:	Re: Warlock (a dream sequence, preceded by Mortal Kombat)
Date:	18 Jan 2005 12:33:57 -0800

Psychologically, there are primary and secondary memories. The primary
memories are not the childhood type, btw. Primary memories are recent
memories. To explain the difference, secondary memories are old
memories and, so, the mind has had ample opportunity to elaborate on
the primary truth. Bizarre dreams often represent old memories.
Secondary memories are the truth + imagination.

*

From:	David Mitchell
Subject:	Re: Warlock (a dream sequence, preceded by Mortal Kombat)
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:49:49 +0000

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:33:57 -0800, cust_support wrote:

Please trim your crossposts - this is OT for alt.out-of-body.

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From:	Jajofar at aol.com
Subject:	Re: Warlock (a dream sequence, preceded by Mortal Kombat)
Date:	18 Jan 2005 09:38:07 -0800

Hi D.S,
This is a handsomely described series of dreams! It was worth waking up
for! :D
I think the dream is a reply to a goof you made somtimes between now
and puberty. A bit of Potterism. It also could have been caused by
having cramp in your legs.
Cheers Jajofar
-----The question this raises to my mind is: is it possible to be a
practicing
Christian and a warlock at the same time?-----
What is the difference?

From:	personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk
Subject:	Re: Warlock (a dream sequence, preceded by Mortal Kombat)
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:54:53 -0600

wrote in message
news:1106069887.562138.173670@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Hi D.S,
> This is a handsomely described series of dreams! It was worth waking up
> for! :D
> I think the dream is a reply to a goof you made somtimes between now
> and puberty. A bit of Potterism. It also could have been caused by
> having cramp in your legs.
> Cheers Jajofar
> -----The question this raises to my mind is: is it possible to be a
> practicing
> Christian and a warlock at the same time?-----
> What is the difference?

Excellent counterpoint :-)

From:	David Mitchell
Subject:	Re: Warlock (a dream sequence, preceded by Mortal Kombat)
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:49:13 +0000

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:54:53 -0600, personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk wrote:

Please trim your crossposts - this is OT for alt.out-of-body.

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From:	Stacey Whaley
Subject:	Re: Warlock (a dream sequence, preceded by Mortal Kombat)
Date:	19 Jan 2005 04:48:50 -0800

David Mitchell wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:47:38 -0800, Stacey Whaley wrote:
>
>
> Please trim your crossposts - this is OT for alt.out-of-body.

Oops! I'm sorry about that. I guess one thing I haven't been paying
attention to is the "To:" field in Google Groups when I respond to
posts. Please accept my apologies. Thanks.

(I'm sending this apology out to the groups I posted to.

-Stacey
internetstuff47129@yahoo.com

>
> >
> > (I'm not religious.... but I still feel as though there is
something
> > bigger out there.) Trust me, science used to be 100% the way to go
for
> > me, but lately I've been questioning that.
>
> How depressing.

Sorry for depressing you. ;)

>
> --
>
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From:	personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk
Subject:	Re: Warlock (a dream sequence, preceded by Mortal Kombat)
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:49:39 -0600

"Stacey Whaley" wrote in message
news:1106138930.892616.235630@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Oops! I'm sorry about that. I guess one thing I haven't been paying
> attention to is the "To:" field in Google Groups when I respond to
> posts. Please accept my apologies. Thanks.

Stacey: don't worry about David. He wouldn't know a good non-scientific
fact if it bit him in the soul.

Besides which, the original post was on topic for alt.out-of-body, as the
gliding / flying portion of the dream may be considered as a low-level of
lucidity type of oob projection.

From:	cust_support
Subject:	Re: Warlock (a dream sequence, preceded by Mortal Kombat)
Date:	18 Jan 2005 11:56:47 -0800

I said it before and I'll say it again: Dreams are a type of memory.
Some memories are short-term, some are very old. Let's look at this
fact about your childhood which you have provided (with no small amount
of personal trust):

Someone like a cross between my dear ol' Mom (who turns 75 today) and a
teacher at the school (she also volunteered there for a few years,
helping out severely disadvantaged kids speaking English as a 2nd
language) tells us to come inside and stop acting like a bunch of ...?
(children? yahoos?)... then tries to ridicule us in front of the people
gathered there.

First, happy birthday to your mother, and let me also say sorry we beat
you up about spell-checking other people's posts. Now we know. It's not
simply your mother's noble crusade to help disadvantaged kids learn
ESL. You have disclosed in your dream that her good influence on you
was complicated by the strict teacher at school. Everyone, but
EVERYONE, has had conflicts with teachers. It must have pained you as a
child to be caught between your mother's good deeds and your teacher's
impatience. This is known as a complex -a mild case, to be sure.
Somebody else called it a compulsion. That's too strong, imho.
Tell us about grade school. I've got a few of my own to tell. We can
compare notes.

*

From:	personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk
Subject:	Re: Warlock (a dream sequence, preceded by Mortal Kombat)
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:58:25 -0600

"cust_support" wrote in message
news:1106078207.376219.101250@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>I said it before and I'll say it again: Dreams are a type of memory.
> Some memories are short-term, some are very old. Let's look at this
> fact about your childhood which you have provided (with no small amount
> of personal trust):
>
> Someone like a cross between my dear ol' Mom (who turns 75 today) and a
> teacher at the school (she also volunteered there for a few years,
> helping out severely disadvantaged kids speaking English as a 2nd
> language) tells us to come inside and stop acting like a bunch of ...?
> (children? yahoos?)... then tries to ridicule us in front of the people
> gathered there.
>
> First, happy birthday to your mother, and let me also say sorry we beat
> you up about spell-checking other people's posts. Now we know. It's not
> simply your mother's noble crusade to help disadvantaged kids learn
> ESL. You have disclosed in your dream that her good influence on you
> was complicated by the strict teacher at school. Everyone, but
> EVERYONE, has had conflicts with teachers. It must have pained you as a
> child to be caught between your mother's good deeds and your teacher's
> impatience. This is known as a complex -a mild case, to be sure.
> Somebody else called it a compulsion. That's too strong, imho.
> Tell us about grade school. I've got a few of my own to tell. We can
> compare notes.

I honestly don't spell check "habitually", but sometimes... *sometimes*... I
see one too many misuses of apostrophes, the word "to" when "too" should be
used, and of course: {They're playing with their ball over there.} It
comes not from the strict mom, but from having perfect spelling grades
through most of my entire scholastic lifetime. Lately, I confess, MS Word
(XP) along with OE's spell checker have made me somewhat more lax these
days....

From:	David Mitchell
Subject:	Re: Warlock (a dream sequence, preceded by Mortal Kombat)
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:48:32 +0000

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:58:25 -0600, personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk wrote:

Please trim your crossposts - this is OT for alt.out-of-body.

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From:	Stacey Whaley
Subject:	Re: Warlock (a dream sequence, preceded by Mortal Kombat)
Date:	18 Jan 2005 12:47:38 -0800

cust_support wrote:
> Psychologically, there are primary and secondary memories. The
primary
> memories are not the childhood type, btw. Primary memories are recent
> memories. To explain the difference, secondary memories are old
> memories and, so, the mind has had ample opportunity to elaborate on
> the primary truth. Bizarre dreams often represent old memories.
> Secondary memories are the truth + imagination.
>
> *

You don't believe in something "more"?

I don't know what to think about dreams right now. I'm trying to
figure it out. I have the "primary" dreams that you mention - those of
recent memories. And of course I have the "secondary" dreams - those
of old memories slightly bent by imagination. BUT, sometimes I feel I
have dreams in which something or someone is trying to tell me
something. Like there is a message I'm supposed to get.

(I'm not religious.... but I still feel as though there is something
bigger out there.) Trust me, science used to be 100% the way to go for
me, but lately I've been questioning that.
-Stacey
internetstuff47129@yahoo.com

From:	David Mitchell
Subject:	Re: Warlock (a dream sequence, preceded by Mortal Kombat)
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:51:02 +0000

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:47:38 -0800, Stacey Whaley wrote:

Please trim your crossposts - this is OT for alt.out-of-body.

>
> (I'm not religious.... but I still feel as though there is something
> bigger out there.) Trust me, science used to be 100% the way to go for
> me, but lately I've been questioning that.

How depressing.

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From:	personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk
Subject:	Re: Warlock (a dream sequence, preceded by Mortal Kombat)
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:01:42 -0600

"Stacey Whaley" wrote in message
news:1106081258.172745.319460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> cust_support wrote:
>> Psychologically, there are primary and secondary memories. The
> primary
>> memories are not the childhood type, btw. Primary memories are recent
>> memories. To explain the difference, secondary memories are old
>> memories and, so, the mind has had ample opportunity to elaborate on
>> the primary truth. Bizarre dreams often represent old memories.
>> Secondary memories are the truth + imagination.
>>
>> *
>
> You don't believe in something "more"?
>
> I don't know what to think about dreams right now. I'm trying to
> figure it out. I have the "primary" dreams that you mention - those of
> recent memories. And of course I have the "secondary" dreams - those
> of old memories slightly bent by imagination. BUT, sometimes I feel I
> have dreams in which something or someone is trying to tell me
> something. Like there is a message I'm supposed to get.
>
> (I'm not religious.... but I still feel as though there is something
> bigger out there.) Trust me, science used to be 100% the way to go for
> me, but lately I've been questioning that.

YEA!!!!!! another one won, one by one... :-)