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 | | From: | robert splaine | | Subject: | for the last three mornings | | Date: | 06 Jan 2005 08:27:43 GMT |
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 | Hello All,
> Can anyone give me thoughts on these dreams l have had for the last
> three mornings? I am mending an electrical appliance, and l get an
> electric shock, the feeling l get is that it a fatal shock, and l am
> kicking out to try and save my life as l know l am dieing. I then wake
> up....
Yhe next one is with a gas boiler, l am trying to fix it, and BANG! it
blows up, it feels so fresh so new, and your body knows what it may be like
to die, and these dreams make me feel that. Am l going barmy?
> I thank you
>
> robert
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| | From: | LH | | Subject: | Re: for the last three mornings | | Date: | Fri, 07 Jan 2005 01:24:10 GMT |
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"robert splaine" wrote in message
news:20050106032743.556$36@newsreader.com...
> Hello All,
>> Can anyone give me thoughts on these dreams l have had for the last
>> three mornings? I am mending an electrical appliance, and l get an
>> electric shock, the feeling l get is that it a fatal shock, and l am
>> kicking out to try and save my life as l know l am dieing. I then wake
>> up....
> Yhe next one is with a gas boiler, l am trying to fix it, and BANG! it
> blows up, it feels so fresh so new, and your body knows what it may be
> like
> to die, and these dreams make me feel that. Am l going barmy?
>> I thank you
Dreams can be very symbolic and the symbols can be very personal. In the
case of the boiler, it "could be" that you're under a lot of stress and
perhaps you need to find a way to let of steam. The electrical one is less
clear. What does it mean to you?
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| | From: | Celestial Sounds | | Subject: | Re: for the last three mornings | | Date: | 18 Jan 2005 20:29:29 -0800 |
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| Do you know what they say causes it? What about REM does it?
Cezyl
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| | From: | David Mitchell | | Subject: | Re: for the last three mornings | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:47:38 +0000 |
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| On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:29:29 -0800, Celestial Sounds wrote:
> Do you know what they say causes it? What about REM does it?
>
> Cezyl
The paralysis is mediated by part of the brainstem called the pontine RAS,
but it's not "caused" by REM as such.
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| | From: | Janice | | Subject: | Re: for the last three mornings | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:03:10 -0500 |
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| In article <1106108969.303736.295500@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
xyz4380@hotmail.com says...
>Do you know what they say causes it? What about REM does it?
It boils down to the fact that during REM, the motor system of the brain
is highly active, so if its signals telling the body to move weren't
counteracted in some way, we'd all be acting out our dreams. There are
indeed some people, usually older men, who have a disorder that causes
them not to have the paralysis, and they have an unnerving habit of
jumping up and running around the room in their sleep; for instance,
tackling the dresser while dreaming of playing football. Also, some
experiments with cats demonstrated that if the brainstem is cut in a
certain way, they will jump up during REM and perform various behaviors
such as stalking, as if they were acting out dreams of chasing mice.
As for the technical working of the mechanism, I've seen it explained
differently in different places, so I'm not sure which is right. One of
these explanations maintains that what's going on is basically that
certain neurons in the brainstem are sending "Go!" signals that activate
the motor area of the cortex (the upper part of the brain) while others
are sending "Stop!" signals to the motor neurons in the spinal cord, with
the net effect of cancelling each other out. In any case, we end up with
such drastically low muscle tone that we can't easily move. A sleep
paralysis experience, such as many of us have had in connection with our
OBEs, therefore may well be a matter of becoming unusually aware of this
perfectly natural and useful function.
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"We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur."
--George W. Bush
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| | From: | Celestial Sounds | | Subject: | Re: for the last three mornings | | Date: | 17 Jan 2005 23:50:05 -0800 |
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| Electric shock = vibrations
We can have something happen and great the dream events before the
happening to make sense of it. See Muldoon's Projection of the Astral
Body. We can make dreams Backwards!
Bang = metalic click of separation/reintegration
Another interpretation of an astral event.
I've had dreams of buzzing things only to find I was in paralysis with
the vibrations, or had dreams hard to move and was in paralysis.
Cheers!
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| | From: | Janice | | Subject: | Re: for the last three mornings | | Date: | Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:38:34 -0500 |
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| In article <1106034605.158243.319560@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
xyz4380@hotmail.com says...
>I've had dreams of buzzing things only to find I was in paralysis with
>the vibrations, or had dreams hard to move and was in paralysis.
I've had both of these sensations incorporated into dreams also.
Of course, we're always paralyzed during REM dreams. The paralysis
exists to keep us from acting out our dreams. We just don't usually
notice it.
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"We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur."
--George W. Bush
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