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 | | From: | Edmond Wollmann | | Subject: | Re: This place is so over | | Date: | 19 Jan 2005 13:46:36 -0800 |
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 | Dan Baldwin@individual.net wrote:
> Wollmann was wearing his AArctophilax@yahoo.com sock when he wrote:
> > If they wish to learn I am here to share, but the confrontation is
a
> > part of the search for truth.
> Bullshit, Wollmann.
> You're here to lecture and to be worshiped. You're here to stroke
your
> own bloated ego. You've had a couple of people recently try to engage
> you in honest question/answer, and you immediately degenerated into
> calling their views "defective", vomiting up chunks of pre-packaged
> screed in lieu of genuine interaction, and trotting out your old
stand
> by : argument by assertion.
Arguments are defective by the rules of logic.
> You don't want dialogue, you want people to listen with rapt
attention.
> You don't want discussions, you want an audience who hang in thrall
on
> your every word. In most people these would just be the signs of an
ego
> out of control, but in you they are signs of your deep rooted
> insecurities.
I see, Dr. "Dan". How come you like to use the name Dan as a fake
screenname so much?
> Deep down inside you are insecure, and to try and distract yourself
from
> that you come barging into aa (and other groups) spewing titanic
loads
> of turgidly verbose and contradictory nonsense, demanding to be seen
as
> a guru sent from on high to hand out enlightenment. What other reason
My first statements in my text refute your assertions, Guru following
is out of integrity and powerless behavior.
> would you have for spending so much time among people you repeatedly
> claim are vastly inferior to you in all ways, if not for ego
validation?
Because they actually ARE inferior? And I don't focus on their
inferiority, it simply comes out as a matter of interaction.
> Its my opinion that you don't genuinely believe in astrology (your
> version or any other), Wollmann. It just makes a convenient prop, a
> serviceable vehicle you can use to put on your "Great And Powerful
Oz"
> routine. Since astrology isn't a rigidly defined science you think
you
> can get away with whatever polysyllabic spin you care to put on it.
Astrology is a tool, as I have stated many times, I use a mirror, and
also watch the weather reports often if I need to, but neither needs
"believing in" in order to be useful to me. They give me general
guidelines to alter or adjust my life or behavior if I wish to do so
using them. You are confusing the religious and scientific dogma which
other arguers here attempt to use against me, for my clear logic that I
employ.
I don't pretend that astrology will be evident in every little event on
Earth as typical astrologers do, that is because of wisdom, not ego.
> You're enamored of impressive sounding slogans and sound bytes,
which,
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> upon close examination, break down into the meaningless collections
of
> vowels and consonants they really are. By choosing as your venue
> astrology you think to be able to isolate yourself from /factual/
> criticism, and can then hand-wave away any philosophical criticisms
by
> claming the critic is biased, not ready to understand, etc.
Ahhh, but I am an expert on linguistics and reading right into people
and the words they use, even when they "believe" they are fooling me.
Sometimes I let them know I see through them, often I do not.
Subject: Re: Various and sundry
Date: 20 Aug 9617:16:15 EDT
From: "Susan" <103674.201 @CompuServe.COM>
To: Edmond Wollmann
Oh, Ed I like you so much! I am 'bowled over' by your article (and I
do not bowl), and so enamored of your extraordinary abilities in purely
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linnear reasoning delivered with passion & a certain panache. I have
some understanding of Saturn's transits, but now have so much more.
Thank you. Am fascinated by the clients you describe and your
deductions. The symmetry is beautiful. Being in service in unusual
ways indeed! Could these people assimilate your insight here and let
it help them? Are you frustrated when others perceive you as
"airy-fairy"? I wish somehow I could help them realize how helpful it
would be if they could abandon defensiveness and examine without
prejudice the truth of what you counsel (and write). I would like to
read a whole book on this. Do you have more I can read?
I welcome your instruction. I am honored to have your keenness
turned in my direction and you are like a lens to me.
..=2E...
> The other astrologers here and in the moderated group don't seem to
have
> the major problems dealing with differing opinions and
interpretations
> that you do, Wollmann. Perhaps that's because the bottom line is that
> you yourself /don't actually believe/ the piffle you spew, and only
want
> to hear agreement and/or adoration for anything you say about
anything
> under, over, within, or beyond the sun.
The bottom line is that the interpretations they use tell us more of
them than astrology or what they "mean."
> You make a pretense at wanting discussion, but in the end all you
really
> want is validation, because under that dried up, boisterous exterior
of
> yours you're really a scared little boy who's nearing the end of his
> time on this Earth with not much to show for it other than a vast
> collection of twaddle archived on Google and a criminal conviction
for
> trespass.
I shall not regret my time on Earth. As I have demonstrated from the
beginning, it's all completely dependent upon how you look at things.
Subject: Re: Ouch
Date:18 Sep 96 01:54:54 EDT
From: "Susan" <103674.201 C CompuServe.COM>
To: Edmond Wollmann
Honey remind me not to say anything totally inane around you (well,
if that's possible)..loved your flame; you are so y when you are
angry; hurling lightning bolts from the sky, fire in those beautiful
eyes, flashes of righteousness, so strong, so true, so ummmm.
I adore you, take me.
Susan
"She is the latest in technology, almost mythology, but she has a heart
of stone. She has an IQ of 1001, she has a jump suit on, and she's also
a telephone. Although her memory banks overflow, no one would ever know
for all she says 'Is that what you want?'" ELO "2095"
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
=A9 2005 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Articles http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/info.htm
Artworks http://www.e-wollmann.com/TOC.htm
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| | From: | Edmond Wollmann is a Convicted Criminal | | Subject: | Re: This place is so over | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:16:54 -0800 |
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| Edmond Wollmann wrote:
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> Ahhh, but I am an expert on linguistics
Wrong. You're an incoherent fool.
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