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The EVP hoax

The EVP hoax  
Rob Henry 77
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lazi at iname.com
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johnwc at patmedia.net
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Rob Henry 77
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John Griffin
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Arthur P.
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Nathan Gilbert
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John Griffin
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Wally Anglesea™
From:Rob Henry 77
Subject:The EVP hoax
Date:22 Jan 2005 21:02:25 GMT
The latest trend in paranormal quackery has cropped up from Universal Pictures
new film "White Noise" which claims to be based on a "real phenomena" where
voices from the 'dead' are picked up on tape-recording and radio equipment. As
always there are plenty of gullible people who want to desperately believe in
something this absurd. Now, people all over the country are turning on their
recorders hoping to make contact with their deceased and nonexistent
grandfathers by listening carefully to the static transmissions.

I've thoroughly investigated this entire so-called phenomena. I find it
important for skeptics to take immediate action when the public is getting
deceived with actual malicious intent. Allow me to explain further as we
examine how this hoax is perpetuated.

The roots of EVP date back to a German paranormalist by the name of Konstantine
Raudive. He kicked off the obscure theory with his 1971 book titled
Breakthrough. Whether he believed in his work or was merely seeking fame or
publicity is up in the air. But many are inclined with the notion of his
research being little more then a well-orchestrated publicity stunt.

Since the 70's there's been a variety of different organizations taking the
throne of EVP research. On the White Noise trailer you'll be directed to the
website of the organization AAEVP.com which seems to be the premiere
perpetuator of this hoax. Some of the so-called voices in the movie White Noise
were even donated by this group: and I presume for a hefty price. It's a rather
easy scheme when all you have to do is talk into a tape recorder in a spooky
voice and you'll get a paycheck from Universal Pictures.

According to AAEVP founder Sara Estep there are three classifications of EVP
noise (http://www.whitenoisemovie.com/mirror/full/examples/examples_voice.htm).
A class "C" is generally unheard by people who are not trying to distinguish a
voice in the static, a class "B' is difficult to hear, requires a headphone and
not everybody will agree what it says. A class "A" is a distinct audible
message ("I love you") and everybody can agree what it means.

It's quite simple actually. Anybody can detect Class C's by turning on their
tape recorders and searching for patterns in the static. The mind naturally
seeks out patterns, and it explains why nobody will agree on what a Class C is
saying. (They usually sound like "mzghyrtkylts")

Class B's are easily attributed to stray radio signals. Instead of hearing
something to the effect of "mzghyrtkylts" it may sound more like
"mznewsghyrwartkyltsIraqgytz" -- If you're taught to believe that you're
listening to the voices of dead relatives then it's easy to fall for this if
you don't know any better.

However, it is Class A's which keep public attention on EVP. These vary between
audible radio signals and actual two way "communication" -- such as voices in a
clear pitch identifying themselves as dead friends, relatives, children, pets,
dead goldfish etc. The interesting thing to note here is that you will only
find these sort of EVP's being sponsored by large publicity seeking websites
and private groups. You'd think if the dead could communicate like this you'd
be hearing their voices over just about every transmission everywhere, but
instead it's only the organizations frequently reported by the media which pick
up such amazing results, a bit odd no?

It is my conclusion that almost every Class-A EVP is created by the simple act
of turning on a tape recorder, talking into it, and publicizing your results.
There are a number of malicious hoaxers who need to be seriously investigated.

www.aaevp.com has a number of these Class A's. Not only are they deceiving
people they are profiteering from it.
www.evpvoices.com is another site to look at. One "voice" even calls the
webmaster by her name.
www.worlditc.com run by Mark Macy is a site of pure quackery.
bigcircle.aaevp.com is another transparent hoax.
And countless more like these...

Listen to the recordings on these sites, petition the webmasters, post on the
forums. Anything to expose them.

Skeptics must rise up and end this nonsense before belief in life after death
becomes the new 21st century mythology. It is preposterous and borderline
schizophrenic to believe such notions, not to mention it's damaging to our
society.

If you wish to host this article on your website or newsletter, please first
contact Robert Henry (Robhenry77@aol.com) Cheers,
From:lazi at iname.com
Subject:Re: The EVP hoax
Date:24 Jan 2005 01:31:25 -0800
Okay, lets stick to EVP for the time being. What proof do you have?
Lazi
From:johnwc at patmedia.net
Subject:Re: The EVP hoax
Date:23 Jan 2005 04:18:35 -0800
EVP is real. You're just phreaked out by the fact that you are hearing
voices you can't explain. Why such a bug up your butt about EVP?
From:Rob Henry 77
Subject:Re: The EVP hoax
Date:23 Jan 2005 19:56:41 GMT
>EVP is real. You're just phreaked out by the fact that you are hearing
>voices you can't explain. Why such a bug up your butt about EVP?

And you're a sheep.
From:John Griffin
Subject:Re: The EVP hoax
Date:23 Jan 2005 13:47:25 GMT
johnwc@patmedia.net wrote:

> EVP is real. You're just phreaked out by the fact that you are hearing
> voices you can't explain. Why such a bug up your butt about EVP?

rotmfflmmfao...

A couple of interesting things about "EVP" is that believing
such idiotic horseshit is highly correlated with being so fucking
retarded as to think it's clever to write "phreak" for "freak" and being
thoroughly defeated by the trivial task of understanding how to quote
whatever you're making a pathetically stupid attempt to reply to. Not
all cretins are susceptible to such behavior--only the slower ones.

By the way, it isn't all that hard to explain the voices you're hearing.
Brain lesions.
From:Arthur P.
Subject:Re: The EVP hoax
Date:Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:44:04 -0600

"John Griffin" pontificated the following
without any knowledge on the subject :
>
> A couple of interesting things about "EVP" is that believing
> such idiotic horseshit is highly correlated with being so fucking
> retarded as to think it's clever to write "phreak" for "freak"

Sort of like the intelligence it takes to curse profusely. Anyhow I have an
abundance of evidence to prove that everything from ghosts to EVP is very
much real. I would ask if you wanted to put your money where your mouth is
but I have a feeling your mouth is far bigger than your wallet will ever be.

Arthur
From:Nathan Gilbert
Subject:Re: The EVP hoax
Date:Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:03:16 -0500
Arthur P. wrote:
> "John Griffin" pontificated the following
> without any knowledge on the subject :
>
>>A couple of interesting things about "EVP" is that believing
>>such idiotic horseshit is highly correlated with being so fucking
>>retarded as to think it's clever to write "phreak" for "freak"
>
>
> Sort of like the intelligence it takes to curse profusely. Anyhow I have an
> abundance of evidence to prove that everything from ghosts to EVP is very
> much real. I would ask if you wanted to put your money where your mouth is
> but I have a feeling your mouth is far bigger than your wallet will ever be.
>
> Arthur
>
>

Then prove it.

--
The life of a repoman is always intense!
From:John Griffin
Subject:Re: The EVP hoax
Date:23 Jan 2005 18:06:43 GMT
Gullible Cretin "Arthur P." wrote:
> "John Griffin" pontificated the following
> without any knowledge on the subject :
>>
>> A couple of interesting things about "EVP" is that believing
>> such idiotic horseshit is highly correlated with being so fucking
>> retarded as to think it's clever to write "phreak" for "freak"
>
> Sort of like the intelligence it takes to curse profusely.

Oh, darn, I hurt the widdle shit's feewings...HAR DE HAR HAR HAR

> Anyhow I
> have an abundance of evidence to prove that everything from ghosts to
> EVP is very much real.

Excellent! More bleating like Flaggy's "Mounds of Evidence"! New topic,
new cretin, same sort of thing. You see something that you want to call
evidence, so in your nascent mind, that's what it becomes. That doesn't
make it fit any workable definition of the word.

>I would ask if you wanted to put your money
> where your mouth is but I have a feeling your mouth is far bigger than
> your wallet will ever be.

It's too bad you haven't developed to the stage where you can
run on thought instead of feelings, chowderhead. If you weren't stuck in
terminal prepubescence, I'd ask you to amuse us by disclosing whatever
your emotions have tricked you into misconstruing as evidence for your
goofy delusions. While waiting for those days, don't hesitate to post
more tantrums.
From:Wally Anglesea™
Subject:Re: The EVP hoax
Date:Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:51:36 GMT
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:44:04 -0600, "Arthur P."
wrote:

>
>"John Griffin" pontificated the following
>without any knowledge on the subject :
>>
>> A couple of interesting things about "EVP" is that believing
>> such idiotic horseshit is highly correlated with being so fucking
>> retarded as to think it's clever to write "phreak" for "freak"
>
>Sort of like the intelligence it takes to curse profusely. Anyhow I have an
>abundance of evidence to prove that everything from ghosts to EVP is very
>much real. I would ask if you wanted to put your money where your mouth is
>but I have a feeling your mouth is far bigger than your wallet will ever be.


EXCELLENT. You too can win a million bucks.

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