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 | | From: | R. Steve Walz | | Subject: | Re: bras for an 11-year-old | | Date: | Fri, 07 Jan 2005 03:56:04 GMT |
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 | sandra-lynn0@excite.com wrote:
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> Hello all
>
> My daughter is 11 and over the last few months her breasts developed
> very fast. She really needs a a bra, but she hates it. Though she's a
> very nice girl, she rebelled against wearing one and this ended up
> creating a real problem. I had to use my authority to make her wear
> one. Since I'm a mom that worries a lot about my children, I got her
> (aghainst her will, of course) high quality bras that give much
> support, since she needs it. They have wide bands and clip in the back
> with 4 hooks. She hates, but I'm sure I'm doing the best for her.
> Anyway, sometimes I wonder if I'm being too harsh and too bossy. She
> complains a lot because I not only make her wear a bra but decided
> what bras she has to wear, but she's a teen and moms know better, I
> suppose.
>
> I'd li eto have the opinion of other mothers on this point.
> Than k you.
> Sandra
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Fuck you, you abusive little shit. You have ensured that she will
hate you and ignore your advice well into her adulthood, EVEN WHEN
YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT, and you have now ensured that she won't soon be
wearing a bra EVEN WHEN IT MIGHT BE COMFORTABLE for her quite soon
now, as soon as she decides to take you on as you have now required
her to do in order to regain her self-respect! YOU have made yourself
the bully she has to learn to fight back against!! And that is some-
thing that NO girl should have to have as her mother!! You have
deprived her both of her own self-respect and also deprived her of a
mother she can be friends with!! She will now procede to do every
single thing you tell her not to, IN ORDER!! And by the way, from
now on you will be telling her what to wear ONLY WHEN YOU CAN SEE
HER!!
Steve
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| | From: | matthaus.huber | | Subject: | Re: bras for an 11-year-old | | Date: | Fri, 07 Jan 2005 23:55:32 GMT |
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| Steve,
you needn't make such a fuss about a bra.
There were times when they burnt them saying they are a sign of male
oppression.
Why that mother absolutely insists that her daughter wears a bra is not
clear to me.
If she doesn't want one, so be it.
No reason to make a fuss about it.
Matthäus Huber
"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
news:41DE0A2F.38DB@armory.com...
> sandra-lynn0@excite.com wrote:
> >
> > Hello all
> >
> > My daughter is 11 and over the last few months her breasts developed
> > very fast. She really needs a a bra, but she hates it. Though she's a
> > very nice girl, she rebelled against wearing one and this ended up
> > creating a real problem. I had to use my authority to make her wear
> > one. Since I'm a mom that worries a lot about my children, I got her
> > (aghainst her will, of course) high quality bras that give much
> > support, since she needs it. They have wide bands and clip in the back
> > with 4 hooks. She hates, but I'm sure I'm doing the best for her.
> > Anyway, sometimes I wonder if I'm being too harsh and too bossy. She
> > complains a lot because I not only make her wear a bra but decided
> > what bras she has to wear, but she's a teen and moms know better, I
> > suppose.
> >
> > I'd li eto have the opinion of other mothers on this point.
> > Than k you.
> > Sandra
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> Fuck you, you abusive little shit. You have ensured that she will
> hate you and ignore your advice well into her adulthood, EVEN WHEN
> YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT, and you have now ensured that she won't soon be
> wearing a bra EVEN WHEN IT MIGHT BE COMFORTABLE for her quite soon
> now, as soon as she decides to take you on as you have now required
> her to do in order to regain her self-respect! YOU have made yourself
> the bully she has to learn to fight back against!! And that is some-
> thing that NO girl should have to have as her mother!! You have
> deprived her both of her own self-respect and also deprived her of a
> mother she can be friends with!! She will now procede to do every
> single thing you tell her not to, IN ORDER!! And by the way, from
> now on you will be telling her what to wear ONLY WHEN YOU CAN SEE
> HER!!
> Steve
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| | From: | R. Steve Walz | | Subject: | Re: bras for an 11-year-old | | Date: | Fri, 14 Jan 2005 23:54:24 GMT |
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| matthaus.huber wrote:
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> Steve,
>
> you needn't make such a fuss about a bra.
> There were times when they burnt them saying they are a sign of male
> oppression.
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I don't care. I reject the stupidity of symbols. Bras of themselves
are useful depending on circumstances, they don't care what anyone
thinks, they are non-conscious.
> Why that mother absolutely insists that her daughter wears a bra is not
> clear to me.
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Simple, she's maniacal that her daughters' breasts not be as available
and her nipples not show so that she cannot be ually stimulated by or
stimulate her peers ually. The mother believes this because of
her OWN antiual religious insanity she was irrationally taught in
her guilt/shame complex by her abusive parents.
Forcing children to do all manner of weird things they wouldn't, of
themselves, choose to do, is precisely HOW children are abused by
parents and be themselves made to become insane and abusive to THEIR
children.
> If she doesn't want one, so be it.
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Indeed, but that is not the mother's response!
> No reason to make a fuss about it.
>
> Matthäus Huber
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Nope, wrong answer. Those who would abusive children with their
religious trash should be torture-killed immediately!!!
Steve
> "R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
> news:41DE0A2F.38DB@armory.com...
> > sandra-lynn0@excite.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello all
> > >
> > > My daughter is 11 and over the last few months her breasts developed
> > > very fast. She really needs a a bra, but she hates it. Though she's a
> > > very nice girl, she rebelled against wearing one and this ended up
> > > creating a real problem. I had to use my authority to make her wear
> > > one. Since I'm a mom that worries a lot about my children, I got her
> > > (aghainst her will, of course) high quality bras that give much
> > > support, since she needs it. They have wide bands and clip in the back
> > > with 4 hooks. She hates, but I'm sure I'm doing the best for her.
> > > Anyway, sometimes I wonder if I'm being too harsh and too bossy. She
> > > complains a lot because I not only make her wear a bra but decided
> > > what bras she has to wear, but she's a teen and moms know better, I
> > > suppose.
> > >
> > > I'd li eto have the opinion of other mothers on this point.
> > > Than k you.
> > > Sandra
> > -------------------
> > Fuck you, you abusive little shit. You have ensured that she will
> > hate you and ignore your advice well into her adulthood, EVEN WHEN
> > YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT, and you have now ensured that she won't soon be
> > wearing a bra EVEN WHEN IT MIGHT BE COMFORTABLE for her quite soon
> > now, as soon as she decides to take you on as you have now required
> > her to do in order to regain her self-respect! YOU have made yourself
> > the bully she has to learn to fight back against!! And that is some-
> > thing that NO girl should have to have as her mother!! You have
> > deprived her both of her own self-respect and also deprived her of a
> > mother she can be friends with!! She will now procede to do every
> > single thing you tell her not to, IN ORDER!! And by the way, from
> > now on you will be telling her what to wear ONLY WHEN YOU CAN SEE
> > HER!!
> > Steve
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| | From: | Marcys Underwear | | Subject: | Re: bras for an 11-year-old---PICTURE PLEASE | | Date: | Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:03:15 -0500 |
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| Post a picture of her chest and we will decide for you.
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| | From: | carl jones | | Subject: | Re: bras for an 11-year-old | | Date: | Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:55:19 -0500 |
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"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
news:41DE0A2F.38DB@armory.com...
>> Fuck you, you abusive little shit. You have ensured that she will
> hate you and ignore your advice well into her adulthood, EVEN WHEN
> YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT, and you have now ensured that she won't soon be
> wearing a bra EVEN WHEN IT MIGHT BE COMFORTABLE for her quite soon
> now, as soon as she decides to take you on as you have now required
> her to do in order to regain her self-respect! YOU have made yourself
> the bully she has to learn to fight back against!! And that is some-
> thing that NO girl should have to have as her mother!! You have
> deprived her both of her own self-respect and also deprived her of a
> mother she can be friends with!! She will now procede to do every
> single thing you tell her not to, IN ORDER!! And by the way, from
> now on you will be telling her what to wear ONLY WHEN YOU CAN SEE
> HER!!
Nice message, Steve.
LOL
Carl
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