Exit big-end bearing:

http://www.carsforums.com/showthread.php?t=3410

I knew a guy who drove 50 kilos in a VK Valiant with trans in second (3
speed auto) by mistake!?. He said he was doing about 80 kph. The
transmission oil boiled out the transmission case vents. He only realised
his error when the oil caught fire on the muffler,...some mothers do have
them.

Jason

From:	Diesel Dog (not Damo)
Subject:	Re: Belive it or not: 110kph with gearbox in 2nd gear
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:51:52 +1100

Jason James wrote:

> Exit big-end bearing:
>
> http://www.carsforums.com/showthread.php?t=3410
>
> I knew a guy who drove 50 kilos in a VK Valiant with trans in second (3
> speed auto) by mistake!?. He said he was doing about 80 kph. The
> transmission oil boiled out the transmission case vents. He only realised
> his error when the oil caught fire on the muffler,...some mothers do have
> them.

I thought if anyone was driving a car at 80k's in 2nd gear (unless its a
2spd powerglide) the engine would be shouting its bearings off.:-)

--
Regards Dan

From:	Charlie
Subject:	Re: Belive it or not: 110kph with gearbox in 2nd gear
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:19:50 +1000

"Diesel Dog (not Damo)" wrote:

> I thought if anyone was driving a car at 80k's in 2nd gear (unless its a
> 2spd powerglide) the engine would be shouting its bearings off.:-)

if you just mean 'noisy' then yeah, of course... I've spent plenty of
time flogging around 2nd gear tracks at speeds up to 100ish, in normal
jap sports cars, with 0 worries...

Charlie

From:	John McKenzie
Subject:	Re: Belive it or not: 110kph with gearbox in 2nd gear
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:02:18 +1100

Diesel Dog (not Damo) wrote:
>
> Jason James wrote:
>
> > Exit big-end bearing:
> >
> > http://www.carsforums.com/showthread.php?t=3410
> >
> > I knew a guy who drove 50 kilos in a VK Valiant with trans in second (3
> > speed auto) by mistake!?. He said he was doing about 80 kph. The
> > transmission oil boiled out the transmission case vents. He only realised
> > his error when the oil caught fire on the muffler,...some mothers do have
> > them.
>
> I thought if anyone was driving a car at 80k's in 2nd gear (unless its a
> 2spd powerglide) the engine would be shouting its bearings off.:-)

Depends on the tyre size and diff ratio. Most 'base model' V8 fords from
the 70s would actually make it to 100km/h just at or before 5000rpm in
first in an auto, so doing it in 2nd would be a cake walk, relatively.

They did tend to have 2.92 or 2.75 diff ratios (depending on whether it
was the bw or ford diff) and tallish tyres.

--
John McKenzie

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From:	Fred Ferd
Subject:	Re: Belive it or not: 110kph with gearbox in 2nd gear
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:02:58 GMT

"Diesel Dog (not Damo)" wrote in message
news:oQeId.234$e77.9597@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> Jason James wrote:
>
>> Exit big-end bearing:
>>
>> http://www.carsforums.com/showthread.php?t=3410
>>
>> I knew a guy who drove 50 kilos in a VK Valiant with trans in second (3
>> speed auto) by mistake!?. He said he was doing about 80 kph. The
>> transmission oil boiled out the transmission case vents. He only realised
>> his error when the oil caught fire on the muffler,...some mothers do have
>> them.
>
> I thought if anyone was driving a car at 80k's in 2nd gear (unless its a
> 2spd powerglide) the engine would be shouting its bearings off.:-)
>

No, ford falcon 4.1 3 speed auto can do it easy.

It will do 120km/h in 2nd before you wonder why its stopped accelerating.

Ok, the XD will quite easily pour all its fluid onto the muffler .. when it
overheats it increases pressure in the transmission case, and it pops its
covers and the fluid pisses out.

But 120km/h in 2nd gear is only 5 ,500 rpm or something. The push rods wont
do it any faster - a form for rev limitter.

From:	TheTaipan
Subject:	Re: Belive it or not: 110kph with gearbox in 2nd gear
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:34:04 +1000

My old XF S pack was an auto, on the highway I would drop to second to
overtake from 90-100... on a long drive I forgot I was already doing 120...
went to overtake, slammed the stick in 2 and wished for a rev limiter!
Fortunately it held together, but I was a little more careful after that...

"Fred Ferd" wrote in message
news:41f19831@news.comindico.com.au...
>
> "Diesel Dog (not Damo)" wrote in message
> news:oQeId.234$e77.9597@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
>> Jason James wrote:
>>
>>> Exit big-end bearing:
>>>
>>> http://www.carsforums.com/showthread.php?t=3410
>>>
>>> I knew a guy who drove 50 kilos in a VK Valiant with trans in second (3
>>> speed auto) by mistake!?. He said he was doing about 80 kph. The
>>> transmission oil boiled out the transmission case vents. He only
>>> realised
>>> his error when the oil caught fire on the muffler,...some mothers do
>>> have
>>> them.
>>
>> I thought if anyone was driving a car at 80k's in 2nd gear (unless its a
>> 2spd powerglide) the engine would be shouting its bearings off.:-)
>>
>
> No, ford falcon 4.1 3 speed auto can do it easy.
>
> It will do 120km/h in 2nd before you wonder why its stopped accelerating.
>
> Ok, the XD will quite easily pour all its fluid onto the muffler .. when
> it overheats it increases pressure in the transmission case, and it pops
> its covers and the fluid pisses out.
>
> But 120km/h in 2nd gear is only 5 ,500 rpm or something. The push rods
> wont do it any faster - a form for rev limitter.
>
>
>
>
>

From:	Diesel Dog (not Damo)
Subject:	Re: Belive it or not: 110kph with gearbox in 2nd gear
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:08:20 +1100

Fred Ferd wrote:

>
> But 120km/h in 2nd gear is only 5 ,500 rpm or something. The push rods wont
> do it any faster - a form for rev limitter.

Getting a stock 250 ford 6 at 5500 rpm is a head ache itself.

--
Regards Dan

From:	Cruiserman
Subject:	Re: Belive it or not: 110kph with gearbox in 2nd gear
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:36:19 +1100

"Diesel Dog (not Damo)" wrote in message
news:jQgId.252$e77.10496@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> Fred Ferd wrote:
>
>
> >
> > But 120km/h in 2nd gear is only 5 ,500 rpm or something. The push rods
wont
> > do it any faster - a form for rev limitter.
>
> Getting a stock 250 ford 6 at 5500 rpm is a head ache itself.
>
> --
> Regards Dan

Many years ago a mate had a 70's Holden with a 253. I was driving it one day
(he was pissed) and he claimed it would do 160 in second gear. I said
bullshit. He pulled the T shift to second and I floored it. It did 160kph
indicated. Don't know what the revs were, but I held it WOT at that speed
for about 2 k's and it didn't blow :)

He was an engine rebuilder by trade, but I think the whole car was pretty
stock.

From:	Rainbow Warrior
Subject:	Re: Belive it or not: 110kph with gearbox in 2nd gear
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:49:56 +1000

"Jason James" wrote in message
news:35d5s9F4kus39U1@individual.net...
> Exit big-end bearing:
>
> http://www.carsforums.com/showthread.php?t=3410
>
> I knew a guy who drove 50 kilos in a VK Valiant with trans in second (3
> speed auto) by mistake!?. He said he was doing about 80 kph. The
> transmission oil boiled out the transmission case vents. He only realised
> his error when the oil caught fire on the muffler,...some mothers do have
> them.
>
> Jason

Valiants have a very tall diff ratio, I used to throw the 3 on the tree down
to second at 90kph no problems and hold it out till 110kph on a near stock
245

From:	Jason James
Subject:	Re: Belive it or not: 110kph with gearbox in 2nd gear
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:28:39 +1100

"Rainbow Warrior" wrote in message
news:dHsId.355$e77.16029@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> "Jason James" wrote in message
> news:35d5s9F4kus39U1@individual.net...
> > Exit big-end bearing:
> >
> > http://www.carsforums.com/showthread.php?t=3410
> >
> > I knew a guy who drove 50 kilos in a VK Valiant with trans in second (3
> > speed auto) by mistake!?. He said he was doing about 80 kph. The
> > transmission oil boiled out the transmission case vents. He only
realised
> > his error when the oil caught fire on the muffler,...some mothers do
have
> > them.
> >
> > Jason
>
> Valiants have a very tall diff ratio, I used to throw the 3 on the tree
down
> to second at 90kph no problems and hold it out till 110kph on a near stock
> 245

This guy ran his for 50kilometers in 2nd. We gave him heaps for just
admitting it!

Jason

From:	Neil Gerace
Subject:	Re: Belive it or not: 110kph with gearbox in 2nd gear
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:18:51 +0800

"Jason James" wrote in message
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> This guy ran his for 50kilometers in 2nd. We gave him heaps for just
> admitting it!

I know a bloke who drove 20 km in his company Commode with the handbrake on.

From:	Albm&ctd
Subject:	Re: Belive it or not: 110kph with gearbox in 2nd gear
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:27:15 GMT

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:18:51 +0800, "Neil Gerace"
wrote:

>"Jason James" wrote in message
>news:35f63uF4mdrmiU1@individual.net...
>
>> This guy ran his for 50kilometers in 2nd. We gave him heaps for just
>> admitting it!
>
>I know a bloke who drove 20 km in his company Commode with the handbrake on.
>
I was once accused of a shit tune up. The guy, a courier left the
handbrake on after I parked it with it on. Ignored the red light and
burnt out the trimatic. Still blamed me because he said he never used
the handbrake. Worked for a gov department.

Al

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From:	Scotty
Subject:	Re: Belive it or not: 110kph with gearbox in 2nd gear
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:19:20 +1000

Im always very surprised at just how many people with autos dont use the
handbrake!
Whats the big deal? They cant handle changeing gears OR pulling up a handle?

"Albm&ctd" wrote in message
news:35h8vtF4maf5qU2@individual.net...
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:18:51 +0800, "Neil Gerace"
> wrote:
>
>>"Jason James" wrote in message
>>news:35f63uF4mdrmiU1@individual.net...
>>
>>> This guy ran his for 50kilometers in 2nd. We gave him heaps for just
>>> admitting it!
>>
>>I know a bloke who drove 20 km in his company Commode with the handbrake
>>on.
>>
> I was once accused of a shit tune up. The guy, a courier left the
> handbrake on after I parked it with it on. Ignored the red light and
> burnt out the trimatic. Still blamed me because he said he never used
> the handbrake. Worked for a gov department.
>
> Al
>
> I don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone.
> http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html

From:	Albm&ctd
Subject:	Re: Belive it or not: 110kph with gearbox in 2nd gear
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:23:03 GMT

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:49:56 +1000, "Rainbow Warrior"
wrote:

>"Jason James" wrote in message
>news:35d5s9F4kus39U1@individual.net...
>> Exit big-end bearing:
>>
>> http://www.carsforums.com/showthread.php?t=3410
>>
>> I knew a guy who drove 50 kilos in a VK Valiant with trans in second (3
>> speed auto) by mistake!?. He said he was doing about 80 kph. The
>> transmission oil boiled out the transmission case vents. He only realised
>> his error when the oil caught fire on the muffler,...some mothers do have
>> them.
>>
>> Jason
>
>Valiants have a very tall diff ratio, I used to throw the 3 on the tree down
>to second at 90kph no problems and hold it out till 110kph on a near stock
>245
>
My 318 easily spun to 6000 rpm more easily than a camry.
Wonder what ever happened to vrooom, nothing revs like a camry?

The box that spat oil out was probably a borg warner, probably through
the filler tube. I had a 727 torqueflite.

Al

I don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone.
http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html

From:	Rainbow Warrior
Subject:	Re: Belive it or not: 110kph with gearbox in 2nd gear
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:27:48 +1000

"Albm&ctd" wrote in message
news:35h8o0F4maf5qU1@individual.net...
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:49:56 +1000, "Rainbow Warrior"
> wrote:
>
> >"Jason James" wrote in message
> >news:35d5s9F4kus39U1@individual.net...
> >> Exit big-end bearing:
> >>
> >> http://www.carsforums.com/showthread.php?t=3410
> >>
> >> I knew a guy who drove 50 kilos in a VK Valiant with trans in second (3
> >> speed auto) by mistake!?. He said he was doing about 80 kph. The
> >> transmission oil boiled out the transmission case vents. He only
realised
> >> his error when the oil caught fire on the muffler,...some mothers do
have
> >> them.
> >>
> >> Jason
> >
> >Valiants have a very tall diff ratio, I used to throw the 3 on the tree
down
> >to second at 90kph no problems and hold it out till 110kph on a near
stock
> >245
> >
> My 318 easily spun to 6000 rpm more easily than a camry.
> Wonder what ever happened to vrooom, nothing revs like a camry?
>
> The box that spat oil out was probably a borg warner, probably through
> the filler tube. I had a 727 torqueflite.

Never neded a filler tube on the manaual 3 speed :-)

>
> Al
>
> I don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone.
> http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html

From:	Albm&ctd
Subject:	Re: Belive it or not: 110kph with gearbox in 2nd gear
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:16:53 GMT

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:12:18 +1100, "Jason James"
wrote:

>Exit big-end bearing:
>
>http://www.carsforums.com/showthread.php?t=3410
>
>I knew a guy who drove 50 kilos in a VK Valiant with trans in second (3
>speed auto) by mistake!?. He said he was doing about 80 kph. The
>transmission oil boiled out the transmission case vents. He only realised
>his error when the oil caught fire on the muffler,...some mothers do have
>them.
>
My 318 V8 Dodge 30 cwt ute could pull 120 km/h in second with a 4
wheel trailer on the back loaded with wood.

Al

I don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone.
http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html