Hi guys,

I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net. The computer
just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
When it happen I don't have any error message when the computer restart and
do not know why it is doing so.

I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the same.

I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .

How can I find out what is making the computer crash?
It happen a long time ago in the past but then the computer was fine now it
is starting again.

Thanks for you help.

Arnaud

From:	kenwood
Subject:	Re: Windows XP crash, anyone have had it?
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:22:12 +1000

the best answer i have heard was robs it was happening to my old system but
only in summer try sit a fan near it and see how u go then

"Arno" wrote in message
news:41ecae2d$0$14721$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Hi guys,
>
> I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net. The
> computer
> just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
> When it happen I don't have any error message when the computer restart
> and
> do not know why it is doing so.
>
> I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the same.
>
> I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .
>
> How can I find out what is making the computer crash?
> It happen a long time ago in the past but then the computer was fine now
> it
> is starting again.
>
> Thanks for you help.
>
> Arnaud
>
>

From:	Smeg
Subject:	Re: Windows XP crash, anyone have had it?
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:29:49 +0800

You need to stop it from restarting and give you an error message. From
there you can diagnose the problem.

To do this (found on some page from google):

To change the recovery settings to disable automatic rebooting:1.
Right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.

2.
Click the Advanced tab.

3.
Under Startup and Recovery, click Settings to open the Startup and
Recovery dialog box.

4.
Clear the Automatically restart check box, and click OK the necessary
number of times.

5.
Restart your computer for the settings to take effect.

Now when you go to shut down and a fatal error occurs, you'll at least see
it and it won't cause an automatic reboot.

Regards

Ben C

--
"kenwood" wrote in message
news:41f0f3f5@news1.veridas.net...
> the best answer i have heard was robs it was happening to my old system
> but only in summer try sit a fan near it and see how u go then
>
>
>
>
>
> "Arno" wrote in message
> news:41ecae2d$0$14721$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net. The
>> computer
>> just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
>> When it happen I don't have any error message when the computer restart
>> and
>> do not know why it is doing so.
>>
>> I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the
>> same.
>>
>> I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .
>>
>> How can I find out what is making the computer crash?
>> It happen a long time ago in the past but then the computer was fine now
>> it
>> is starting again.
>>
>> Thanks for you help.
>>
>> Arnaud
>>
>>
>
>

From:	Hunter1
Subject:	Re: Windows XP crash, anyone have had it?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:16:26 +0800

Check your system and app logs. If it shows as a software or driver
fault then you have somewhere to work from, if it shows as "unexpected
shutdown" then be prepared for some fun hardware trouble shooting.

Arno wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net. The computer
> just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
> When it happen I don't have any error message when the computer restart and
> do not know why it is doing so.
>
> I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the same.
>
> I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .
>
> How can I find out what is making the computer crash?
> It happen a long time ago in the past but then the computer was fine now it
> is starting again.
>
> Thanks for you help.
>
> Arnaud
>
>

From:	Rod Speed
Subject:	Re: Windows XP crash, anyone have had it?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:42:34 +1100

Arno wrote in message
news:41ecae2d$0$14721$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

> I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net.
> The computer just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
> When it happen I don't have any error message when the
> computer restart and do not know why it is doing so.

> I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the same.

> I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .

> How can I find out what is making the computer crash?

See if there is anything useful in the event log.

Unfortunately if its a hardware problem, it can be quite a few things.

The only real alternative is to try the possibilitys systematically
with the power supply being the cheapest thing to try if it isnt
something as basic as the cpu fan all clogged up with fur and
its just over heating. See what the cpu temp is in the bios when
its just rebooted.

> It happen a long time ago in the past but then
> the computer was fine now it is starting again.

Is it likely that was just last summer when it was hot ?

From:	Arno
Subject:	Re: Windows XP crash, anyone have had it?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:32:00 +1100

Dont think it is to do with the temperature as last week was much hoter and
didn't have the problem.

How can I do a memmory test?

thanks
"Rod Speed" wrote in message
news:3540ftF4ial84U1@individual.net...
>
> Arno wrote in message
> news:41ecae2d$0$14721$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>
> > I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net.
> > The computer just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
> > When it happen I don't have any error message when the
> > computer restart and do not know why it is doing so.
>
> > I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the
same.
>
> > I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .
>
> > How can I find out what is making the computer crash?
>
> See if there is anything useful in the event log.
>
> Unfortunately if its a hardware problem, it can be quite a few things.
>
> The only real alternative is to try the possibilitys systematically
> with the power supply being the cheapest thing to try if it isnt
> something as basic as the cpu fan all clogged up with fur and
> its just over heating. See what the cpu temp is in the bios when
> its just rebooted.
>
> > It happen a long time ago in the past but then
> > the computer was fine now it is starting again.
>
> Is it likely that was just last summer when it was hot ?
>
>

From:	Rod Speed
Subject:	Re: Windows XP crash, anyone have had it?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:58:17 +1100

"Arno" wrote in message
news:41ecd791$0$25526$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Dont think it is to do with the temperature as last week was much hoter and
> didn't have the problem.
>
> How can I do a memmory test?

Run memtest86

> thanks
> "Rod Speed" wrote in message
> news:3540ftF4ial84U1@individual.net...
>>
>> Arno wrote in message
>> news:41ecae2d$0$14721$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>
>> > I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net.
>> > The computer just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
>> > When it happen I don't have any error message when the
>> > computer restart and do not know why it is doing so.
>>
>> > I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the
> same.
>>
>> > I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .
>>
>> > How can I find out what is making the computer crash?
>>
>> See if there is anything useful in the event log.
>>
>> Unfortunately if its a hardware problem, it can be quite a few things.
>>
>> The only real alternative is to try the possibilitys systematically
>> with the power supply being the cheapest thing to try if it isnt
>> something as basic as the cpu fan all clogged up with fur and
>> its just over heating. See what the cpu temp is in the bios when
>> its just rebooted.
>>
>> > It happen a long time ago in the past but then
>> > the computer was fine now it is starting again.
>>
>> Is it likely that was just last summer when it was hot ?
>>
>>
>
>

From:	Arno
Subject:	Re: Windows XP crash, anyone have had it?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:46:16 +1100

where can I find memtest86.

Thanks guys.,
"Rod Speed" wrote in message
news:355f3rF4h0s3sU1@individual.net...
>
> "Arno" wrote in message
> news:41ecd791$0$25526$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> > Dont think it is to do with the temperature as last week was much hoter
and
> > didn't have the problem.
> >
> > How can I do a memmory test?
>
> Run memtest86
>
> > thanks
> > "Rod Speed" wrote in message
> > news:3540ftF4ial84U1@individual.net...
> >>
> >> Arno wrote in message
> >> news:41ecae2d$0$14721$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> >>
> >> > I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net.
> >> > The computer just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
> >> > When it happen I don't have any error message when the
> >> > computer restart and do not know why it is doing so.
> >>
> >> > I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the
> > same.
> >>
> >> > I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .
> >>
> >> > How can I find out what is making the computer crash?
> >>
> >> See if there is anything useful in the event log.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately if its a hardware problem, it can be quite a few things.
> >>
> >> The only real alternative is to try the possibilitys systematically
> >> with the power supply being the cheapest thing to try if it isnt
> >> something as basic as the cpu fan all clogged up with fur and
> >> its just over heating. See what the cpu temp is in the bios when
> >> its just rebooted.
> >>
> >> > It happen a long time ago in the past but then
> >> > the computer was fine now it is starting again.
> >>
> >> Is it likely that was just last summer when it was hot ?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

From:	Rod Speed
Subject:	Re: Windows XP crash, anyone have had it?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:49:19 +1100

Arno wrote in message
news:41ed91b9$0$28498$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

> where can I find memtest86.

http://www.memtest86.com/
Tad radical, I know |-)

google is great for that sort of thing too.

> Thanks guys.,

> "Rod Speed" wrote in message
> news:355f3rF4h0s3sU1@individual.net...
>>
>> "Arno" wrote in message
>> news:41ecd791$0$25526$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> > Dont think it is to do with the temperature as last week was much hoter
> and
>> > didn't have the problem.
>> >
>> > How can I do a memmory test?
>>
>> Run memtest86
>>
>> > thanks
>> > "Rod Speed" wrote in message
>> > news:3540ftF4ial84U1@individual.net...
>> >>
>> >> Arno wrote in message
>> >> news:41ecae2d$0$14721$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> >>
>> >> > I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net.
>> >> > The computer just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
>> >> > When it happen I don't have any error message when the
>> >> > computer restart and do not know why it is doing so.
>> >>
>> >> > I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the
>> > same.
>> >>
>> >> > I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .
>> >>
>> >> > How can I find out what is making the computer crash?
>> >>
>> >> See if there is anything useful in the event log.
>> >>
>> >> Unfortunately if its a hardware problem, it can be quite a few things.
>> >>
>> >> The only real alternative is to try the possibilitys systematically
>> >> with the power supply being the cheapest thing to try if it isnt
>> >> something as basic as the cpu fan all clogged up with fur and
>> >> its just over heating. See what the cpu temp is in the bios when
>> >> its just rebooted.
>> >>
>> >> > It happen a long time ago in the past but then
>> >> > the computer was fine now it is starting again.
>> >>
>> >> Is it likely that was just last summer when it was hot ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

From:	Mick
Subject:	Re: Windows XP crash, anyone have had it?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:41:41 GMT

Download memtest86 iso then create a cd with it using nero it will be
bootable then turn on the machine
"Arno" wrote in message
news:41ecd791$0$25526$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Dont think it is to do with the temperature as last week was much hoter
> and
> didn't have the problem.
>
> How can I do a memmory test?
>
> thanks
> "Rod Speed" wrote in message
> news:3540ftF4ial84U1@individual.net...
>>
>> Arno wrote in message
>> news:41ecae2d$0$14721$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>
>> > I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net.
>> > The computer just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
>> > When it happen I don't have any error message when the
>> > computer restart and do not know why it is doing so.
>>
>> > I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the
> same.
>>
>> > I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .
>>
>> > How can I find out what is making the computer crash?
>>
>> See if there is anything useful in the event log.
>>
>> Unfortunately if its a hardware problem, it can be quite a few things.
>>
>> The only real alternative is to try the possibilitys systematically
>> with the power supply being the cheapest thing to try if it isnt
>> something as basic as the cpu fan all clogged up with fur and
>> its just over heating. See what the cpu temp is in the bios when
>> its just rebooted.
>>
>> > It happen a long time ago in the past but then
>> > the computer was fine now it is starting again.
>>
>> Is it likely that was just last summer when it was hot ?
>>
>>
>
>

From:	SmakDaddy
Subject:	Re: Windows XP crash, anyone have had it?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:32:33 +0800

My mum had a similar problem on her computer, at first I thought it was a
power supply issue, but it didnt do it when booting to the command prompt,
only when in windows. I couldnt solve the problem, but an update to SP2
seemed to fix it anyway. You should try starting your computer up at safe
mode command prompt and leave it for a while and see if it does it there.

from Smak

"Arno" wrote in message
news:41ecae2d$0$14721$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Hi guys,
>
> I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net. The
> computer
> just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
> When it happen I don't have any error message when the computer restart
> and
> do not know why it is doing so.
>
> I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the same.
>
> I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .
>
> How can I find out what is making the computer crash?
> It happen a long time ago in the past but then the computer was fine now
> it
> is starting again.
>
> Thanks for you help.
>
> Arnaud
>
>

From:	Ziggy Switkowski
Subject:	Re: Windows XP crash, anyone have had it?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:52:14 +0800

just had this exact issue, turned out to be a motherboard issue, the last
time it died, it just would never start again. Not saying its what's going
on with yours though.

"Arno" wrote in message
news:41ecae2d$0$14721$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Hi guys,
>
> I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net. The
> computer
> just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
> When it happen I don't have any error message when the computer restart
> and
> do not know why it is doing so.
>
> I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the same.
>
> I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .
>
> How can I find out what is making the computer crash?
> It happen a long time ago in the past but then the computer was fine now
> it
> is starting again.
>
> Thanks for you help.
>
> Arnaud
>
>

From:	Mick
Subject:	Re: Windows XP crash, anyone have had it?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:39:40 GMT

memtest86

sounds like a memory problem

"Arno" wrote in message
news:41ecae2d$0$14721$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Hi guys,
>
> I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net. The
> computer
> just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
> When it happen I don't have any error message when the computer restart
> and
> do not know why it is doing so.
>
> I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the same.
>
> I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .
>
> How can I find out what is making the computer crash?
> It happen a long time ago in the past but then the computer was fine now
> it
> is starting again.
>
> Thanks for you help.
>
> Arnaud
>
>

From:	Kynaston
Subject:	Re: Windows XP crash, anyone have had it?
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 05:27:57 +1000

I tend to agree..Sounds like hardware conflictions to me..Overheating issues
with videocard CPU or memory....Check the temp shutdown in BIOS..Maybe this
is set to low..

"Mick" wrote in message
news:033Hd.122939$K7.57328@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> memtest86
>
> sounds like a memory problem
>
> "Arno" wrote in message
> news:41ecae2d$0$14721$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net. The
>> computer
>> just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
>> When it happen I don't have any error message when the computer restart
>> and
>> do not know why it is doing so.
>>
>> I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the
>> same.
>>
>> I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .
>>
>> How can I find out what is making the computer crash?
>> It happen a long time ago in the past but then the computer was fine now
>> it
>> is starting again.
>>
>> Thanks for you help.
>>
>> Arnaud
>>
>>
>
>

From:	Ted
Subject:	Re: Windows XP crash, anyone have had it?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:58:21 +1100

"Arno" wrote in message
news:41ecae2d$0$14721$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Hi guys,
>
> I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net. The
> computer
> just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
> When it happen I don't have any error message when the computer restart
> and
> do not know why it is doing so.
>
> I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the same.
>
> I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .
>
> How can I find out what is making the computer crash?
> It happen a long time ago in the past but then the computer was fine now
> it
> is starting again.
>
> Thanks for you help.
>
> Arnaud
>

Right mouse click desktop icon 'My Computer' and select properties in menu.
From the window that pops up select 'Advanced' tab. On the Advanced tab
window left mouse click 'settings' button adjacent to 'Startup and
Recovery'. A new window will open and you'll see several entries which are
either checked or unchecked. Make sure that "Write an entry to the system
log" is checked, and that "Automatically restart" is unchecked.

With those settings you should have the computer displaying a BSOD screen
for most crashes with the usual cryptic message rather than the PC auto
rebooting. You'll also find some crash messages written into the system logs
under 'Event viewer' Right mouse click and select 'Manage' to get to event
viewer.

From:	Stephen Brooker
Subject:	Re: Windows XP crash, anyone have had it?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:48:39 +1100

Arno wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net. The computer
> just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
> When it happen I don't have any error message when the computer restart and
> do not know why it is doing so.
>
> I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the same.
>
> I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .
>
> How can I find out what is making the computer crash?
> It happen a long time ago in the past but then the computer was fine now it
> is starting again.
>
> Thanks for you help.
>
> Arnaud
>
>

XP by default reboots on system errors. Turn it off and see what (if
any) error message you get.

Control Panel/System/Advanced/Startup and Recovery
Settings/Automatically Restart - Uncheck this.

From:	Peter
Subject:	Re: Windows XP crash, anyone have had it?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:40:21 +0800

Stephen Brooker wrote:
> Arno wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net. The
>> computer
>> just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
>> When it happen I don't have any error message when the computer
>> restart and
>> do not know why it is doing so.
>>
>> I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the
>> same.
>>
>> I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .
>>
>> How can I find out what is making the computer crash?
>> It happen a long time ago in the past but then the computer was fine
>> now it
>> is starting again.
>>
>> Thanks for you help.
>>
>> Arnaud
>>
>>
>
> XP by default reboots on system errors. Turn it off and see what (if
> any) error message you get.
>
> Control Panel/System/Advanced/Startup and Recovery
> Settings/Automatically Restart - Uncheck this.

I had the same sort of problem some time ago.
I too thought it was power supply.
Turned out to be a memory fault.
As some suggested, do a memory test.

Regards
Peter

From:	DalienX
Subject:	Re: Windows XP crash, anyone have had it?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:02:20 GMT

Arno wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net. The
> computer just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
> When it happen I don't have any error message when the computer
> restart and do not know why it is doing so.
>
> I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the
> same.
>
> I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .
>
> How can I find out what is making the computer crash?
> It happen a long time ago in the past but then the computer was fine
> now it is starting again.
>
> Thanks for you help.
>
> Arnaud

It sounds like a driver issue to me, make sure you have the latest
mainboard and video card drivers.

--
DalienX

From:	Rob
Subject:	Re: Windows XP crash, anyone have had it?
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:06:02 +1100

Arno wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I keep on having my computer crashing. Mainly browsing the net. The computer
> just suddenly restart. Black screen and reboot.
> When it happen I don't have any error message when the computer restart and
> do not know why it is doing so.
>
> I have reformat my drives and re-instore windows XP but still do the same.
>
> I have a pentium IV 2.8ghz 1024mb of memmory .
>
> How can I find out what is making the computer crash?
> It happen a long time ago in the past but then the computer was fine now it
> is starting again.
>
> Thanks for you help.
>
> Arnaud
>
>

Check all you power connections within the computer maybe a loose or
dirty joint showing a fault and interrupting the MB power supply.

Secondly maybe the power supply itself.