acalcium@aol.com wrote:
> Hi there all,
> Would appreciate it if u signed the following petition.
>
> http://www.freefiona.com/
>
> Sony is not releasing Fiona Apple's new album cos there
> is no 'obvious' single.

Fuck her, if there's no obvous single then it's obviously crap
and shouldn't be inflicted on the public.

If it's so good, why doesn't she go to another label or indie?
Because it's crap and no-one will touch it that's why.

From:	Shadowking
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	7 Jan 2005 16:05:46 +1100

"Black Bart" wrote in news:41dddae3$1
@news.alphalink.com.au:

> acalcium@aol.com wrote:
>> Hi there all,
>> Would appreciate it if u signed the following petition.
>>
>> http://www.freefiona.com/
>>
>> Sony is not releasing Fiona Apple's new album cos there
>> is no 'obvious' single.
>
> Fuck her, if there's no obvous single then it's obviously crap
> and shouldn't be inflicted on the public.
>
> If it's so good, why doesn't she go to another label or indie?
> Because it's crap and no-one will touch it that's why.
>
>

She was never a 'singles' artist and did quite well for herself. How do you
know there are no singles ?

Sounds to me like the typical australian tall poppy syndrome again. If
Fiona was a true underdog (read: never sold many albums, not well known and
and had a very small following - similar to Powderfinger circa 1994) then
you wouldn't be bashing her.

I don't think she could hop labels are they 'own' her work.

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From:	Andrew Owens
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:21:16 +0800

Black Bart wrote:
> Fuck her, if there's no obvous single then it's obviously crap
> and shouldn't be inflicted on the public.

Most alternative, metal etc artists don't release singles - other than
radio singles of course which are played by the likes of JJJ. I've heard
the two tracks that have been leaked off her new album and they are both
decent.

I remember the problems with Robyn Loau ('Sick With Love') - I managed
to score a copy of her album (Malaria) with a handwritten product
number, and it's actually quite good, but record industry politics
didn't allow its release.

- Andrew

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From:	Ms Leebee
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:00:00 GMT

Andrew Owens wrote:
> Black Bart wrote:
>> Fuck her, if there's no obvous single then it's obviously crap
>> and shouldn't be inflicted on the public.
>
> Most alternative, metal etc artists don't release singles - other than
> radio singles of course which are played by the likes of JJJ. I've
> heard the two tracks that have been leaked off her new album and they
> are both decent.
>
> I remember the problems with Robyn Loau ('Sick With Love')

from "Girlfriend", yes ?

From:	Andrew Owens
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:22:33 +0800

Ms Leebee wrote:
>>I remember the problems with Robyn Loau ('Sick With Love')
>
> from "Girlfriend", yes ?

Originally, yes ... although you definitely wouldn't have known from the
styles of music on her own record.

- Andrew

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From:	Sarch
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:55:07 +1100

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:42:01 +1100, Black Bart wrote:

> If it's so good, why doesn't she go to another label or indie?
> Because it's crap and no-one will touch it that's why.

Err no. Her contract would probably prevent label hopping.

Sarch

From:	Chasing Kate
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	Fri, 07 Jan 2005 18:12:55 +1030

Sarch wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:42:01 +1100, Black Bart wrote:
>
> > If it's so good, why doesn't she go to another label or indie?
> > Because it's crap and no-one will touch it that's why.
>
> Err no. Her contract would probably prevent label hopping.
>
> Sarch

Nothing a good lawyer or bad press can't get her out of

From:	Natalie
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	Fri, 07 Jan 2005 20:40:45 +1100

Chasing Kate wrote:
>
> Sarch wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:42:01 +1100, Black Bart wrote:
> >
> > > If it's so good, why doesn't she go to another label or indie?
> > > Because it's crap and no-one will touch it that's why.
> >
> > Err no. Her contract would probably prevent label hopping.
>
> Nothing a good lawyer or bad press can't get her out of

I'm sure Sharon O'Neill would disagree with you there JDL.

Natalie

From:	Andrew Owens
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:25:19 +0800

Natalie wrote:
> I'm sure Sharon O'Neill would disagree with you there JDL.

Or George Michael, Prince, Tool... all of whom ultimately won against
their record companies, all in very different ways, but it took *years*,
for most of which they couldn't release anything. I must admit I liked
Prince's rather unique way of handling his situation...

- Andrew

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From:	Ms Leebee
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:00:40 GMT

Andrew Owens wrote:
> Natalie wrote:
>> I'm sure Sharon O'Neill would disagree with you there JDL.
>
> Or George Michael, Prince, Tool... all of whom ultimately won against
> their record companies, all in very different ways, but it took
> *years*, for most of which they couldn't release anything. I must
> admit I liked Prince's rather unique way of handling his situation...

The GM and Prince battles stick in my mind aslo ( esp. Michael & Sony - very
publically nasty ;)

From:	Chasing Kate
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:10:53 +1030

Ms Leebee wrote:

> Andrew Owens wrote:
> > Natalie wrote:
> >> I'm sure Sharon O'Neill would disagree with you there JDL.
> >
> > Or George Michael, Prince, Tool... all of whom ultimately won against
> > their record companies, all in very different ways, but it took
> > *years*, for most of which they couldn't release anything. I must
> > admit I liked Prince's rather unique way of handling his situation...
>
> The GM and Prince battles stick in my mind aslo ( esp. Michael & Sony - very
> publically nasty ;)

This must be before my time LOL but how was it nasty?

From:	Sarch
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:27:58 +1100

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:00:40 GMT, Ms Leebee wrote:

> The GM and Prince battles stick in my mind aslo ( esp. Michael & Sony - very
> publically nasty ;)

Same as the Hole/Courtney Love debacle. It appears to be very common once
an act reaches star status.

Sarch

From:	Chasing Kate
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:11:12 +1030

Andrew Owens wrote:

> Natalie wrote:
> > I'm sure Sharon O'Neill would disagree with you there JDL.
>
> Or George Michael, Prince, Tool... all of whom ultimately won against
> their record companies, all in very different ways, but it took *years*,
> for most of which they couldn't release anything. I must admit I liked
> Prince's rather unique way of handling his situation...
>
> - Andrew
>
> --
> Free the llamas!

Which was what?

From:	Andrew Owens
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:11:54 +0800

Chasing Kate wrote:
> Andrew Owens wrote:
>
>
>>Natalie wrote:
>>
>>>I'm sure Sharon O'Neill would disagree with you there JDL.
>>
>>Or George Michael, Prince, Tool... all of whom ultimately won against
>>their record companies, all in very different ways, but it took *years*,
>>for most of which they couldn't release anything. I must admit I liked
>>Prince's rather unique way of handling his situation...

> Which was what?

Let's say the little symbol he adopted made life difficult for those
trying to sue him.

- Andrew

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From:	Chasing Kate
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:17:19 +1030

Andrew Owens wrote:

> Chasing Kate wrote:
> > Andrew Owens wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Natalie wrote:
> >>
> >>>I'm sure Sharon O'Neill would disagree with you there JDL.
> >>
> >>Or George Michael, Prince, Tool... all of whom ultimately won against
> >>their record companies, all in very different ways, but it took *years*,
> >>for most of which they couldn't release anything. I must admit I liked
> >>Prince's rather unique way of handling his situation...
>
> > Which was what?
>
> Let's say the little symbol he adopted made life difficult for those
> trying to sue him.
>
> - Andrew
>
> --
> Free the llamas!

Oh

From:	Sarch
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	Fri, 7 Jan 2005 19:32:30 +1100

On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 18:12:55 +1030, Chasing Kate wrote:

> Nothing a good lawyer or bad press can't get her out of

You're dealing with the one of the world's biggest record companies with an
army of lawyers. You think they their contracts _aren't_ absolutely water
tight? Bad publicity means nothing, Sony can afford to hold out. They do it
all the time; an act's profile is no barrier.

Sarch
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From:	Chasing Kate
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:11:35 +1030

Sarch wrote:

> On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 18:12:55 +1030, Chasing Kate wrote:
>
> > Nothing a good lawyer or bad press can't get her out of
>
> You're dealing with the one of the world's biggest record companies with an
> army of lawyers. You think they their contracts _aren't_ absolutely water
> tight? Bad publicity means nothing, Sony can afford to hold out. They do it
> all the time; an act's profile is no barrier.
>
> Sarch

Fair comment 'twas just an opinion

From:	PC
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:19:07 +1100

Sarch wrote:
>>If it's so good, why doesn't she go to another label or indie?
>>Because it's crap and no-one will touch it that's why.

> Err no. Her contract would probably prevent label hopping.

Was a gun aimed at her when she signed the contract?

PC

From:	Koenig
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	Fri, 07 Jan 2005 01:22:26 GMT

"PC" wrote in message
news:41dde349$0$5692$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Sarch wrote:
> >>If it's so good, why doesn't she go to another label or indie?
> >>Because it's crap and no-one will touch it that's why.
>
> > Err no. Her contract would probably prevent label hopping.
>
> Was a gun aimed at her when she signed the contract?

Oh give me a break.

From:	Sarch
Subject:	Re: Free Fiona Campaign
Date:	Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:35:02 +1100

On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:19:07 +1100, PC wrote:

> Sarch wrote:
>>
>>On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:42:01 +1100, Black Bart wrote:
>>>
>>>If it's so good, why doesn't she go to another label or indie?
>>>Because it's crap and no-one will touch it that's why.
>
>> Err no. Her contract would probably prevent label hopping.
>
> Was a gun aimed at her when she signed the contract?

What are you on about? I'm responding to the question "why doesn't she go
to another label or indie?" and I gave a likely reason.

Sarch