Im thinking about putting some new seals into the honda cd250 spud i have.

How hard is this, and are any special tooks required?

I dont mind tinkering a bit.

also any idea of the cost?

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From:	fulliautomatix
Subject:	Re: Brakes how hard
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:50:31 GMT

Mad Biker wrote:

> Im thinking about putting some new seals into the honda cd250 spud i have.
>
> How hard is this, and are any special tooks required?
>

Real seals are pretty hard to come by, i think they might be expensive too.
Maybe if you just change the water for the ones you have?

From:	Knobdoodle
Subject:	Re: Brakes how hard
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:27:07 +1000

"Mad Biker" wrote in message
news:357126F4ihroqU1@individual.net...
> Im thinking about putting some new seals into the honda cd250 spud i
> have.
>
> How hard is this, and are any special tooks required?
>
> I dont mind tinkering a bit.
>
> also any idea of the cost?
>
What seals?
If it's master cylinder you can get generic ones from your local(?!!?)
brake-shop for less than $10 and save $80-odd over what Honda will charge
you.
Why? What's the symptoms?
Have you bled it?
Try pulling the lever in to the bars and then tying it there overnight
(with a cable-tie or occy-strap).
Clem

From:	Mad Biker
Subject:	Re: Brakes how hard
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:38:00 +1100

the seals look like their perishing, the rubbers flaking away were the
leaver goes into the master.

a generic what?

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"Knobdoodle" wrote in message
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> "Mad Biker" wrote in message
> news:357126F4ihroqU1@individual.net...
> > Im thinking about putting some new seals into the honda cd250 spud i
> > have.
> >
> > How hard is this, and are any special tooks required?
> >
> > I dont mind tinkering a bit.
> >
> > also any idea of the cost?
> >
> What seals?
> If it's master cylinder you can get generic ones from your local(?!!?)
> brake-shop for less than $10 and save $80-odd over what Honda will charge
> you.
> Why? What's the symptoms?
> Have you bled it?
> Try pulling the lever in to the bars and then tying it there overnight
> (with a cable-tie or occy-strap).
> Clem
>
>

From:	Pisshead Pete
Subject:	Re: Brakes how hard
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 03:19:45 GMT

Mad Biker wrote:

> the seals look like their perishing, the rubbers flaking away were the
> leaver goes into the master.
>
> a generic what?

A generic seal. Pull it apart and take the old seals around to your local
bearing, brake, hydraulic mobs. They'll measure it and look for numbers to
match it to a suitable replacement.

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From:	Knobdoodle
Subject:	Re: Brakes how hard
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:50:14 +1000

X-No-archive: yes
Zaccary!
(I think Jap bike master-cylinders are pretty-much all 5/8th inch bore so
they're pretty easy to find a car replacement seal for).
Clem
~
Pisshead Pete wrote :
>A generic seal. Pull it apart and take the old seals around to your local
>bearing, brake, hydraulic mobs. They'll measure it and look for numbers to
>match it to a suitable replacement.
>
>--
>Pete ....
> The journey IS the destination
>
>

From:	Moike
Subject:	Re: Brakes how hard
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:20:54 +1100

Knobdoodle wrote:

> X-No-archive: yes
> Zaccary!
> (I think Jap bike master-cylinders are pretty-much all 5/8th inch bore so
> they're pretty easy to find a car replacement seal for).
> Clem
> ~
> Pisshead Pete wrote :
>
>>A generic seal. Pull it apart and take the old seals around to your local
>>bearing, brake, hydraulic mobs. They'll measure it and look for numbers to
>>match it to a suitable replacement.
>>
>>--
>>Pete ....
>>The journey IS the destination
>>
>>
>
>
>
Inches? Jap Bikes? Really?

wonders never cease!
Moike

From:	Knobdoodle
Subject:	Re: Brakes how hard
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:59:33 +1000

"Moike" wrote:
> Knobdoodle wrote:
>> (I think Jap bike master-cylinders are pretty-much all 5/8th inch bore
>> .....
>>
> Inches? Jap Bikes? Really?
> wonders never cease!
~
The tyres are in inches too!
(Well; the diameter is.... the width is mostly metric now.)
Clem

From:	Theo Bekkers
Subject:	Re: Brakes how hard
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:39:37 +0800

Knobdoodle wrote:

> The tyres are in inches too!
> (Well; the diameter is.... the width is mostly metric now.)

Only the rim size is in inches. All other tyre measurements are in metric
for cars too. You remember when all you had to ask for was a 6.50 x 14 for
your car. None of this mamby pamby narrow profile shit on allegedly huge
rims. Phht, my first car had 17" rims, with 4.5 x 17 balloon tyres. The
tread must have been .......oh ....... three inches wide.

Theo

From:	Knobdoodle
Subject:	Re: Brakes how hard
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:22:59 +1000

X-No-archive: yes
Jap handlebars are all 7/8th inch diameter too!
(except maybe some of the cruisers)
Clem

Knobdoodle wrote:
>The tyres are in inches too!
>(Well; the diameter is.... the width is mostly metric now.)
>Clem
>
>

From:	Knobdoodle
Subject:	Re: Brakes how hard
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:46:12 +1000

X-No-archive: yes

That's not actually a seal just a dust-cover.
I'd just ignore it and get on with taking digipics of things around your
house.
(Unless there's fluid leaking in which case it's the seal on the piston
which is under the dust-cover and which is generic.)
--
Clem

Mad Biker wrote in message <35766aF4hvnaqU1@individual.net>...
>the seals look like their perishing, the rubbers flaking away were the
>leaver goes into the master.
>
>a generic what?
>
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>"Knobdoodle" wrote in message
>news:35722gF4jijghU1@individual.net...
>> "Mad Biker" wrote in message
>> news:357126F4ihroqU1@individual.net...
>> > Im thinking about putting some new seals into the honda cd250 spud i
>> > have.
>> >
>> > How hard is this, and are any special tooks required?
>> >
>> > I dont mind tinkering a bit.
>> >
>> > also any idea of the cost?
>> >
>> What seals?
>> If it's master cylinder you can get generic ones from your local(?!!?)
>> brake-shop for less than $10 and save $80-odd over what Honda will charge
>> you.
>> Why? What's the symptoms?
>> Have you bled it?
>> Try pulling the lever in to the bars and then tying it there overnight
>> (with a cable-tie or occy-strap).
>> Clem
>>
>>
>
>

From:	Mad Biker
Subject:	Re: Brakes how hard
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:19:34 +1100

no not leaking yet at all..

worried itll go pop while the missus is riding it, you know how us blokes
are.

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"Knobdoodle" wrote in message
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> X-No-archive: yes
>
> That's not actually a seal just a dust-cover.
> I'd just ignore it and get on with taking digipics of things around your
> house.
> (Unless there's fluid leaking in which case it's the seal on the piston
> which is under the dust-cover and which is generic.)
> --
> Clem
>
> Mad Biker wrote in message <35766aF4hvnaqU1@individual.net>...
> >the seals look like their perishing, the rubbers flaking away were the
> >leaver goes into the master.
> >
> >a generic what?
> >
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> >"Knobdoodle" wrote in message
> >news:35722gF4jijghU1@individual.net...
> >> "Mad Biker" wrote in message
> >> news:357126F4ihroqU1@individual.net...
> >> > Im thinking about putting some new seals into the honda cd250 spud i
> >> > have.
> >> >
> >> > How hard is this, and are any special tooks required?
> >> >
> >> > I dont mind tinkering a bit.
> >> >
> >> > also any idea of the cost?
> >> >
> >> What seals?
> >> If it's master cylinder you can get generic ones from your local(?!!?)
> >> brake-shop for less than $10 and save $80-odd over what Honda will
charge
> >> you.
> >> Why? What's the symptoms?
> >> Have you bled it?
> >> Try pulling the lever in to the bars and then tying it there overnight
> >> (with a cable-tie or occy-strap).
> >> Clem
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

From:	JustALaway
Subject:	Re: Brakes how hard
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:26:08 -0500

If you're lucky it'll kill her and you won't have to worry! :P

JustAL

Re: Brakes how hard
by "Mad Biker" Jan 20, 2005 at 03:19 PM

no not leaking yet at all..

worried itll go pop while the missus is riding it, you know how us blokes
are.

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From:	JustALaway
Subject:	Re: Brakes how hard
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:56:02 -0500

...about the whining. :P

JustAL

Re: Brakes how hard
by "JustALaway" Jan 20, 2005 at 12:26 AM

If you're lucky it'll kill her and you won't have to worry! :P

JustAL

Re: Brakes how hard
by "Mad Biker" Jan 20, 2005 at 03:19 PM

no not leaking yet at all..

worried itll go pop while the missus is riding it, you know how us blokes
are.

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From:	smack
Subject:	Re: Brakes how hard
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:16:05 +1100

nice backpedal

"JustALaway" wrote in message
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> ..about the whining. :P
>
> JustAL
>
>
> Re: Brakes how hard
> by "JustALaway" Jan 20, 2005 at 12:26 AM
>
>
> If you're lucky it'll kill her and you won't have to worry! :P
>
> JustAL
>
>
> Re: Brakes how hard
> by "Mad Biker" Jan 20, 2005 at 03:19 PM
>
>
> no not leaking yet at all..
>
> worried itll go pop while the missus is riding it, you know how us blokes
> are.
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From:	Knobdoodle
Subject:	Re: Brakes how hard
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:51:15 +1000

X-No-archive: yes
There's actually a double-seal so the first symptom is that your brakes go
squishy but still work (on the second seal).
You can bleed them but they go squishy again the next day.

If the lever is still firm then your missus is quite safe.
Clem
(Of course; there's probably some domestic credits to be earned by
mail-ordering a new dust-cover from Honda "because you want her to be
safe...")

Mad Biker wrote in message <358pqsF4ie7vaU1@individual.net>...
>no not leaking yet at all..
>
>worried itll go pop while the missus is riding it, you know how us blokes
>are.
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>"Knobdoodle" wrote in message
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>> X-No-archive: yes
>>
>> That's not actually a seal just a dust-cover.
>> I'd just ignore it and get on with taking digipics of things around your
>> house.
>> (Unless there's fluid leaking in which case it's the seal on the piston
>> which is under the dust-cover and which is generic.)
>> --
>> Clem
>>
>> Mad Biker wrote in message <35766aF4hvnaqU1@individual.net>...
>> >the seals look like their perishing, the rubbers flaking away were the
>> >leaver goes into the master.
>> >
>> >a generic what?
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>> >"Knobdoodle" wrote in message
>> >news:35722gF4jijghU1@individual.net...
>> >> "Mad Biker" wrote in message
>> >> news:357126F4ihroqU1@individual.net...
>> >> > Im thinking about putting some new seals into the honda cd250 spud i
>> >> > have.
>> >> >
>> >> > How hard is this, and are any special tooks required?
>> >> >
>> >> > I dont mind tinkering a bit.
>> >> >
>> >> > also any idea of the cost?
>> >> >
>> >> What seals?
>> >> If it's master cylinder you can get generic ones from your local(?!!?)
>> >> brake-shop for less than $10 and save $80-odd over what Honda will
>charge
>> >> you.
>> >> Why? What's the symptoms?
>> >> Have you bled it?
>> >> Try pulling the lever in to the bars and then tying it there overnight
>> >> (with a cable-tie or occy-strap).
>> >> Clem
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

From:	Gary Woodman
Subject:	Re: Brakes how hard
Date:	20 Jan 2005 17:01:10 +1100

"Mad Biker" wrote in news:358pqsF4ie7vaU1
@individual.net:

> worried itll go pop while the missus is riding it, you know how us blokes
> are.

Yeah, can't have it blow brake fluid all over the bodywork!

Gary

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