 | | From: | Rustydog | | Subject: | f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:24:05 +1000 |
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|
 | Had a 1 -2 second power brownout and when the power came back up two light
bulbs blew and now my PC freezes up at random intervals. Had 4 quotes to
fix the PC ranging from $410 to $1000. Ergon are non commital which you can
expect I suppose, I am trying to get the PC fixed by Ergon, but my next door
neighbours also experienced the brownout and fortunately they both work for
Ergon so I have a couple of great witnesses.
Adrian
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| | From: | Peter Wyzl | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:28:31 GMT |
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| "Rustydog" wrote in message
news:csmjht$dhs$1@austar-news.austar.net.au...
: Had a 1 -2 second power brownout and when the power came back up two light
: bulbs blew and now my PC freezes up at random intervals. Had 4 quotes to
: fix the PC ranging from $410 to $1000. Ergon are non commital which you
can
: expect I suppose, I am trying to get the PC fixed by Ergon, but my next
door
: neighbours also experienced the brownout and fortunately they both work
for
: Ergon so I have a couple of great witnesses.
Do you have a guarantee of supply quality? Get over it and buy a UPS.
P
--
print "Just another Perl Hacker";
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| | From: | Rustydog | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:42:24 +1000 |
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| Yes we do have a 'guarantee of supply quality' and ERGON have had a few
recent claims concerning this according to one PC tech. I will eventually
'get over it' but in the meantime I can still be pissed that it happened, so
would you especially if ERGON has had numerous complaints from people about
brownout problems and done nothing about them. Looking at prices of UPS's
now.
Adrian
"Peter Wyzl" wrote in message
news:jaBHd.124986$K7.68799@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> "Rustydog" wrote in message
> news:csmjht$dhs$1@austar-news.austar.net.au...
> : Had a 1 -2 second power brownout and when the power came back up two
> light
> : bulbs blew and now my PC freezes up at random intervals. Had 4 quotes
> to
> : fix the PC ranging from $410 to $1000. Ergon are non commital which you
> can
> : expect I suppose, I am trying to get the PC fixed by Ergon, but my next
> door
> : neighbours also experienced the brownout and fortunately they both work
> for
> : Ergon so I have a couple of great witnesses.
>
> Do you have a guarantee of supply quality? Get over it and buy a UPS.
>
> P
> --
> print "Just another Perl Hacker";
>
>
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| | From: | paulh | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:57:46 +1100 |
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| On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:24:05 +1000, "Rustydog"
wrote:
>Had a 1 -2 second power brownout and when the power came back up two light
>bulbs blew and now my PC freezes up at random intervals. Had 4 quotes to
>fix the PC ranging from $410 to $1000. Ergon are non commital which you can
>expect I suppose, I am trying to get the PC fixed by Ergon, but my next door
>neighbours also experienced the brownout and fortunately they both work for
>Ergon so I have a couple of great witnesses.
Well $1000 seems a bit high. Probably just changing the mobo and Ram would do
it. And the PSU I guess. But its probably one component thats doing it. Finding
it can be hard tho.
You need a UPS...So do I ... but I dont have one...
paulh
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| | From: | Rustydog | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:45:23 +1000 |
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| Have replaced RAM no go replaced Mobo no go replaced CPU no go and replaced,
temporarily, PSU no go. According to the PC tech, and I had to pay $60 for
this, "Its stuffed" his exact words.
Adrian
"paulh" wrote in message
news:rsstu0heah6l1268i5sa5ge5llj9uqolmu@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:24:05 +1000, "Rustydog"
> wrote:
>
>>Had a 1 -2 second power brownout and when the power came back up two light
>>bulbs blew and now my PC freezes up at random intervals. Had 4 quotes to
>>fix the PC ranging from $410 to $1000. Ergon are non commital which you
>>can
>>expect I suppose, I am trying to get the PC fixed by Ergon, but my next
>>door
>>neighbours also experienced the brownout and fortunately they both work
>>for
>>Ergon so I have a couple of great witnesses.
>
> Well $1000 seems a bit high. Probably just changing the mobo and Ram would
> do
> it. And the PSU I guess. But its probably one component thats doing it.
> Finding
> it can be hard tho.
>
> You need a UPS...So do I ... but I dont have one...
>
> paulh
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| | From: | Rustydog | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:49:51 +1000 |
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| I think I should have read the last reply before I posted it. I took the
CPU and RAM from the stuffed PC and put them into another working PC no go.
Adrian
"Rustydog" wrote in message
news:csmvbb$j8p$1@austar-news.austar.net.au...
> Have replaced RAM no go replaced Mobo no go replaced CPU no go and
> replaced, temporarily, PSU no go. According to the PC tech, and I had to
> pay $60 for this, "Its stuffed" his exact words.
>
> Adrian
>
> "paulh" wrote in message
> news:rsstu0heah6l1268i5sa5ge5llj9uqolmu@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:24:05 +1000, "Rustydog"
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Had a 1 -2 second power brownout and when the power came back up two
>>>light
>>>bulbs blew and now my PC freezes up at random intervals. Had 4 quotes to
>>>fix the PC ranging from $410 to $1000. Ergon are non commital which you
>>>can
>>>expect I suppose, I am trying to get the PC fixed by Ergon, but my next
>>>door
>>>neighbours also experienced the brownout and fortunately they both work
>>>for
>>>Ergon so I have a couple of great witnesses.
>>
>> Well $1000 seems a bit high. Probably just changing the mobo and Ram
>> would do
>> it. And the PSU I guess. But its probably one component thats doing it.
>> Finding
>> it can be hard tho.
>>
>> You need a UPS...So do I ... but I dont have one...
>>
>> paulh
>
>
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| | From: | paulh | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:41:02 +1100 |
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| Then, and I do this sort of thing all the time... you're stuffed. One customer
of mine had the power turned off and then on at his house. The resulting spike
caused visible scorch marks on various chips on his motherboard, scsi card and 3
out of 4 scsi drives... but the 4th one was rooted as well. And he hadnt backed
up. Another one had his local transformer catch fire and it blew everything on
and electrical in house. Aircon, TV, 2psus and 2 monitors. However he DID get
the lot replaced by the power company.. so I'd stick with it.
paulh
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:49:51 +1000, "Rustydog"
wrote:
>I think I should have read the last reply before I posted it. I took the
>CPU and RAM from the stuffed PC and put them into another working PC no go.
>
>Adrian
>
>"Rustydog" wrote in message
>news:csmvbb$j8p$1@austar-news.austar.net.au...
>> Have replaced RAM no go replaced Mobo no go replaced CPU no go and
>> replaced, temporarily, PSU no go. According to the PC tech, and I had to
>> pay $60 for this, "Its stuffed" his exact words.
>>
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| | From: | Boxer | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:32:22 GMT |
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|
"Rustydog" wrote in message
news:csmvbb$j8p$1@austar-news.austar.net.au...
> Have replaced RAM no go replaced Mobo no go replaced CPU no go and
> replaced, temporarily, PSU no go. According to the PC tech, and I had to
> pay $60 for this, "Its stuffed" his exact words.
>
> Adrian
>
>
Yep its broken.
Boxer
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| | From: | Gary Woodman | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | 20 Jan 2005 11:42:57 +1100 |
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| paulh wrote in
news:rsstu0heah6l1268i5sa5ge5llj9uqolmu@4ax.com:
> You need a UPS...So do I ... but I dont have one...
Nearly every laptop comes with a UPS.
Gary
--
Mark Latham, former Leader of the Alternative Liberal Party: "My message to
the business community is that Labor is pro-growth and pro-productivity."
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| | From: | Boxer | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:31:34 GMT |
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|
"Gary Woodman" wrote in message
news:Xns95E4775536890upyournose@203.22.212.136...
>
> Mark Latham, former Leader of the Alternative Liberal Party: "My message
> to
> the business community is that Labor is pro-growth and pro-productivity."
Gary, news flash, your hero Mark Latham is now a feather duster.
Boxer
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| | From: | Toosmoky | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:39:02 +1000 |
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| "Boxer" wrote in message
> Gary, news flash, your hero Mark Latham is now a feather duster.
"I say to the Australian people - I'm ready to lead, he's ready to leave."
Mark Latham 29/09/2004
--
Toosmoky
Ride the Penguin...
http://toosmoky.d2.net.au
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| | From: | Knobdoodle | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:56:59 +1000 |
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| X-No-archive: yes
Toosmoky wrote in message
<41ef2785$0$31121$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>...
>"Boxer" wrote in message
>
>> Gary, news flash, your hero Mark Latham is now a feather duster.
>
>"I say to the Australian people - I'm ready to lead, he's ready to leave."
>Mark Latham 29/09/2004
>
....and the people said "no we don't want you to lead".
I don't recall him making any promises about sitting around four years in
opposition waiting for another go at leading!
Clem
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| | From: | John Littler | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:38:19 +1100 |
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| Boxer wrote:
> "Gary Woodman" wrote in message
> news:Xns95E4775536890upyournose@203.22.212.136...
>
>>Mark Latham, former Leader of the Alternative Liberal Party: "My message
>>to
>>the business community is that Labor is pro-growth and pro-productivity."
>
>
> Gary, news flash, your hero Mark Latham is now a feather duster.
Interesting take Boxer, I read his sig file as indicating contempt for
Latham for being indistinguishable from the Liberals
Which way did you mean it Gary ?
JL
--
Poor fellow my country.
Australians do not care that their PM is a liar.
http://www.johnhowardlies.com/
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| | From: | Gary Woodman | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | 20 Jan 2005 14:47:53 +1100 |
|
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| John Littler wrote in
news:358jpuF4egm59U2@individual.net:
> Boxer wrote:
>> "Gary Woodman" wrote in message
>> news:Xns95E4775536890upyournose@203.22.212.136...
>>
>>>Mark Latham, former Leader of the Alternative Liberal Party: "My
>>>message to
>>>the business community is that Labor is pro-growth and
>>>pro-productivity."
>>
>>
>> Gary, news flash, your hero Mark Latham is now a feather duster.
>
> Interesting take Boxer, I read his sig file as indicating contempt for
> Latham for being indistinguishable from the Liberals
>
> Which way did you mean it Gary ?
Pretty much the way you read it, John, with despair more than contempt. But
I agree with the 'feather duster' comment; they're all feather dusters in
the ALP.
Gary (maybe Beazley is a down pillow)
--
Mark Latham, former Leader of the Alternative Liberal Party: "My message to
the business community is that Labor is pro-growth and pro-productivity."
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| | From: | BT Humble | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | 19 Jan 2005 19:52:02 -0800 |
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| paulh wrote:
> Then, and I do this sort of thing all the time... you're stuffed. One
customer
> of mine had the power turned off and then on at his house. The
resulting spike
> caused visible scorch marks on various chips on his motherboard, scsi
card and 3
> out of 4 scsi drives... but the 4th one was rooted as well. And he
hadnt backed
> up. Another one had his local transformer catch fire and it blew
everything on
> and electrical in house. Aircon, TV, 2psus and 2 monitors. However he
DID get
> the lot replaced by the power company.. so I'd stick with it.
What's this "Power Company" of which you speak?
I've been off-grid since Easter. In that time my on-grid neighbours
have had the giddy thrill of about 7 blackouts, while I've had 1 (which
was my own fault, and I fixed by replacing my inverter the next day).
No power spikes or brownouts either.
BTH
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| | From: | Pisshead Pete | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:59:47 GMT |
|
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| Rustydog wrote:
> Had a 1 -2 second power brownout and when the power came back up two light
> bulbs blew and now my PC freezes up at random intervals. Had 4 quotes to
> fix the PC ranging from $410 to $1000. Ergon are non commital which you
> can expect I suppose, I am trying to get the PC fixed by Ergon, but my
> next door neighbours also experienced the brownout and fortunately they
> both work for Ergon so I have a couple of great witnesses.
If it's anything like Energy then if it's caused by them, yes, if
it's caused by an act of goD (usefull scapegoat), no. Billy Connelly made a
good movie about suing goD.
--
Pete ....
The journey IS the destination
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| | From: | Rustydog | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:55:18 +1000 |
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| OK but unlike Billy Connelly in the movies we had no lightening in the area
at that time. The closest was up the gulf somewhere, at least 1000k away
probably more. I am not the only one known to the PC tech "that have had a
similar problem in a similar time frame in this area" his words not mine. I
understand that I am not the only one making a claim to ERGON. Just
recently an ERGON customer had the entire wiring and most electrical gear in
her house burnt out and the firebrigade cannot understand why her house
didnt burn down after the 66kV lines somehow came into contact with the
wiring to her house, no one was home at the time, luckily, and it made front
page here. I will make a claim against ERGON ,wont hold my breath waiting
and replace the PC when I can.
Adrian
I might even get over it sometime soon after large quantities of alcohol,
I've horded since Xmas, is consumed.
"Pisshead Pete" wrote in message
news:pan.2005.01.20.03.00.17.44982@hotmail.com...
> Rustydog wrote:
>
>> Had a 1 -2 second power brownout and when the power came back up two
>> light
>> bulbs blew and now my PC freezes up at random intervals. Had 4 quotes to
>> fix the PC ranging from $410 to $1000. Ergon are non commital which you
>> can expect I suppose, I am trying to get the PC fixed by Ergon, but my
>> next door neighbours also experienced the brownout and fortunately they
>> both work for Ergon so I have a couple of great witnesses.
>
> If it's anything like Energy then if it's caused by them, yes, if
> it's caused by an act of goD (usefull scapegoat), no. Billy Connelly made
> a
> good movie about suing goD.
>
> --
> Pete ....
> The journey IS the destination
>
>
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| | From: | Pisshead Pete | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 04:46:36 GMT |
|
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| Rustydog wrote:
> OK but unlike Billy Connelly in the movies we had no lightening in the
> area at that time. The closest was up the gulf somewhere, at least 1000k
> away probably more. I am not the only one known to the PC tech "that have
> had a similar problem in a similar time frame in this area" his words not
> mine. I understand that I am not the only one making a claim to ERGON.
> Just recently an ERGON customer had the entire wiring and most electrical
> gear in her house burnt out and the firebrigade cannot understand why her
> house didnt burn down after the 66kV lines somehow came into contact with
> the wiring to her house, no one was home at the time, luckily, and it made
> front page here. I will make a claim against ERGON ,wont hold my breath
> waiting and replace the PC when I can.
They blame it on wind too. We had a three or four day outtage here and
they wouldn't wear the cost of generator hire even.
> I might even get over it sometime soon after large quantities of alcohol,
> I've horded since Xmas, is consumed.
Now ya talkin'!
--
Pete ....
The journey IS the destination
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| | From: | atec | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:44:22 +1000 |
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| Perhaps you need to look about for a decent battery lump ?
something in a KW new is a bit expensive but I found one with out a
decent battery at the Auctions for $135.00 recently and have made repair
( 1500 watts) worth while I think ? ( $245 all up)
Rustydog wrote:
>
> OK but unlike Billy Connelly in the movies we had no lightening in the area
> at that time. The closest was up the gulf somewhere, at least 1000k away
> probably more. I am not the only one known to the PC tech "that have had a
> similar problem in a similar time frame in this area" his words not mine. I
> understand that I am not the only one making a claim to ERGON. Just
> recently an ERGON customer had the entire wiring and most electrical gear in
> her house burnt out and the firebrigade cannot understand why her house
> didnt burn down after the 66kV lines somehow came into contact with the
> wiring to her house, no one was home at the time, luckily, and it made front
> page here. I will make a claim against ERGON ,wont hold my breath waiting
> and replace the PC when I can.
>
> Adrian
> I might even get over it sometime soon after large quantities of alcohol,
> I've horded since Xmas, is consumed.
> "Pisshead Pete" wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.01.20.03.00.17.44982@hotmail.com...
> > Rustydog wrote:
> >
> >> Had a 1 -2 second power brownout and when the power came back up two
> >> light
> >> bulbs blew and now my PC freezes up at random intervals. Had 4 quotes to
> >> fix the PC ranging from $410 to $1000. Ergon are non commital which you
> >> can expect I suppose, I am trying to get the PC fixed by Ergon, but my
> >> next door neighbours also experienced the brownout and fortunately they
> >> both work for Ergon so I have a couple of great witnesses.
> >
> > If it's anything like Energy then if it's caused by them, yes, if
> > it's caused by an act of goD (usefull scapegoat), no. Billy Connelly made
> > a
> > good movie about suing goD.
> >
> > --
> > Pete ....
> > The journey IS the destination
> >
> >
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| | From: | diode | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:02:27 +1100 |
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| Get your importand data backed up before something dies permenantly.
EG the hard drive.
Ben.
"Rustydog" wrote in message
news:csmjht$dhs$1@austar-news.austar.net.au...
> Had a 1 -2 second power brownout and when the power came back up two light
> bulbs blew and now my PC freezes up at random intervals. Had 4 quotes to
> fix the PC ranging from $410 to $1000. Ergon are non commital which you
can
> expect I suppose, I am trying to get the PC fixed by Ergon, but my next
door
> neighbours also experienced the brownout and fortunately they both work
for
> Ergon so I have a couple of great witnesses.
>
> Adrian
>
>
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| | From: | SmeeR11S | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:19:58 +1100 |
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| Had one installed in the powerbox.
Apart from lightning it will stop the brown out that caused your peoblems.
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| | From: | G-S | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 04:10:15 +1100 |
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|
"SmeeR11S" wrote in message
news:359t0eF4ddh1fU7@individual.net...
> Had one installed in the powerbox.
> Apart from lightning it will stop the brown out that caused your peoblems.
A good UPS will compensate for moderate brown outs. The APC ones we use at
work do so. Some cheaper UPS's don't do voltage regulation or only cut down
high voltages without attempting to top up low voltages.
Of course they are limited in what they can do... but the software monitored
ones can automatically shut down the pc if things get that far.
G-S
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| | From: | Theo Bekkers | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:50:06 +0800 |
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| G-S wrote:
> A good UPS will compensate for moderate brown outs. The APC ones we
> use at work do so. Some cheaper UPS's don't do voltage regulation or
> only cut down high voltages without attempting to top up low voltages.
You must apply a different definition to UPS than I do.
> Of course they are limited in what they can do... but the software
> monitored ones can automatically shut down the pc if things get that
> far.
That is to shut down the PC before the battery goes flat. Usually 10-15 mins
on PC sized UPSs.
We have a couple of 5KVA UPSs at work with extra batteries. Will supply 15
amps to run our critical systems for about an hour. About $9K each.
Theo
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| | From: | G-S | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:02:20 +1100 |
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|
"Theo Bekkers" wrote in message
news:41f0528b@news.bekkers.com.au...
> G-S wrote:
>> A good UPS will compensate for moderate brown outs. The APC ones we
>> use at work do so. Some cheaper UPS's don't do voltage regulation or
>> only cut down high voltages without attempting to top up low voltages.
>
> You must apply a different definition to UPS than I do.
If the manufacturer calls it a UPS then I'm not going to argue with them :-)
>> Of course they are limited in what they can do... but the software
>> monitored ones can automatically shut down the pc if things get that
>> far.
>
> That is to shut down the PC before the battery goes flat. Usually 10-15
> mins on PC sized UPSs.
The PC ones at work will run the dells with LCD screens from 30 mins with
heavy use or up to 60 mins just sitting there.
> We have a couple of 5KVA UPSs at work with extra batteries. Will supply 15
> amps to run our critical systems for about an hour. About $9K each.
Yup... well good ones aren't cheap :-)
G-S
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| | From: | Theo Bekkers | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:54:25 +0800 |
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| G-S wrote:
> Yup... well good ones aren't cheap :-)
I can get a Liebert interactive 500VA with auto everything for $210.
Connects to a USB port.
A personal PowerSure 650 with surge protection but no auto interactive
features for $91.
Cheap enough?
Theo
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| | From: | G-S | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:20:02 +1100 |
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|
"Theo Bekkers" wrote in message
news:41f0b5fd$1@news.bekkers.com.au...
> G-S wrote:
>
>> Yup... well good ones aren't cheap :-)
>
> I can get a Liebert interactive 500VA with auto everything for $210.
> Connects to a USB port.
> A personal PowerSure 650 with surge protection but no auto interactive
> features for $91.
>
> Cheap enough?
Cheap enough yes... good enough?
G-S
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| | From: | GB | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | 22 Jan 2005 14:04:53 +1100 |
|
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| "G-S" wrote in news:10v1pbaepggj971
@news.supernews.com:
> Cheap enough yes... good enough?
Cheap. Fast. Accurate.
Pick any two.
G
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| | From: | Theo Bekkers | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:37:45 +0800 |
|
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| G-S wrote:
> "Theo Bekkers" wrote
>> Cheap enough?
>
> Cheap enough yes... good enough?
Certainly for a personal PC. Will get you through all those 5 cycle outings
the local pwer company loves to give me. And keep me going for ten minutes
after all the lights go out. Enough time to do an orderly shutdown. Not much
use if your computer is n and you're not home though.
Theo
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| | From: | G-S | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:56:13 +1100 |
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|
"Theo Bekkers" wrote in message
news:41f46e55$1@news.bekkers.com.au...
> G-S wrote:
>> "Theo Bekkers" wrote
>>> Cheap enough?
>>
>> Cheap enough yes... good enough?
>
> Certainly for a personal PC. Will get you through all those 5 cycle
> outings the local pwer company loves to give me. And keep me going for ten
> minutes after all the lights go out. Enough time to do an orderly
> shutdown. Not much use if your computer is n and you're not home though.
I leave my computers, and the work computers on 24/7.
Hence the need for an auto shutdown UPS at a minimum.
G-S
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| | From: | Nev.. | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:04:10 +1100 |
|
|
| Theo Bekkers wrote:
>
> G-S wrote:
> > A good UPS will compensate for moderate brown outs. The APC ones we
> > use at work do so. Some cheaper UPS's don't do voltage regulation or
> > only cut down high voltages without attempting to top up low voltages.
>
> You must apply a different definition to UPS than I do.
>
> > Of course they are limited in what they can do... but the software
> > monitored ones can automatically shut down the pc if things get that
> > far.
>
> That is to shut down the PC before the battery goes flat. Usually 10-15 mins
> on PC sized UPSs.
>
> We have a couple of 5KVA UPSs at work with extra batteries. Will supply 15
> amps to run our critical systems for about an hour. About $9K each.
I'd be inclined to mention that the latest UPS system installed at my work
took about 3 months to install and combined with the backup generators
produces enough power to keep a small city running, but noone else can win
this pissing contest while Martin Taylor is around.
Nev..
'03 ZX12R
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| | From: | Moike | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:35:24 +1100 |
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| Nev.. wrote:
> I'd be inclined to mention that the latest UPS system installed at my work
> took about 3 months to install and combined with the backup generators
> produces enough power to keep a small city running, but noone else can win
> this pissing contest while Martin Taylor is around.
Is *that* what that thing at Yallourn is for!
Moike
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| | From: | Nev.. | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:42:39 +1100 |
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| Moike wrote:
>
> Nev.. wrote:
>
> > I'd be inclined to mention that the latest UPS system installed at my work
> > took about 3 months to install and combined with the backup generators
> > produces enough power to keep a small city running, but noone else can win
> > this pissing contest while Martin Taylor is around.
>
> Is *that* what that thing at Yallourn is for!
...besides a launch pad for BASE jumpers.
Nev..
'03 ZX12R
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| | From: | Theo Bekkers | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:32:12 +0800 |
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| Nev.. wrote:
> I'd be inclined to mention that the latest UPS system installed at my
> work took about 3 months to install and combined with the backup
> generators produces enough power to keep a small city running, but
> noone else can win this pissing contest while Martin Taylor is around.
No contest but we installed ours in ten minutes.
Young Marist Brother gets more and more excited as the school team loses
every event in the interschool championships. After it is over he goes to
take a nature break and comes out very red in the face. Old Brother says,
what's the matter? Young Brother says, there was a bunch of boys in there
having a pissing contest to see who could pee highest up the wall. So I hit
the roof. Old Brother, well at least we won something then.
Theo
Old Catholic boys school joke told to my class by a Marist Brother.
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| | From: | Moike | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:36:51 +1100 |
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| Theo Bekkers wrote:
> Nev.. wrote:
>
>
>>I'd be inclined to mention that the latest UPS system installed at my
>>work took about 3 months to install and combined with the backup
>>generators produces enough power to keep a small city running, but
>>noone else can win this pissing contest while Martin Taylor is around.
>
>
> No contest but we installed ours in ten minutes.
>
> Young Marist Brother gets more and more excited as the school team loses
> every event in the interschool championships. After it is over he goes to
> take a nature break and comes out very red in the face. Old Brother says,
> what's the matter? Young Brother says, there was a bunch of boys in there
> having a pissing contest to see who could pee highest up the wall. So I hit
> the roof. Old Brother, well at least we won something then.
>
> Theo
> Old Catholic boys school joke told to my class by a Marist Brother.
>
>
They say it's the trivial things that go last........
Moike
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| | From: | Theo Bekkers | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:47:43 +0800 |
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| Moike wrote:
> They say it's the trivial things that go last........
You went to that same school!
Theo
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| | From: | Theo Bekkers | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:45:26 +0800 |
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| SmeeR11S wrote:
> Had one installed in the powerbox.
> Apart from lightning it will stop the brown out that caused your
> peoblems.
Huh? What kind of surge guard generates power? This something new? Does it
have a battery?
Theo
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| | From: | SmeeR11S | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:42:09 +1100 |
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|
Theo Bekkers wrote:
> SmeeR11S wrote:
>
>>Had one installed in the powerbox.
>>Apart from lightning it will stop the brown out that caused your
>>peoblems.
>
>
> Huh? What kind of surge guard generates power? This something new? Does it
> have a battery?
>
> Theo
>
>
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
You misunderstood me.
A surge guard is fitted to the fusebox of the house where the power
comes in from the street.
IT will burn out before the house wiring goes up due to an outside power
surge.
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| | From: | GB | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | 22 Jan 2005 14:06:35 +1100 |
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| SmeeR11S wrote in news:35cbkvF4l62c7U1@individual.net:
> A surge guard is fitted to the fusebox of the house where the power
> comes in from the street.
> IT will burn out before the house wiring goes up due to an outside
> power surge.
Actually, that's technically incorrect. In practical terms,
your $8000 wide flat LCD telly with the double overhead
flurgenhurgers will burn out to save the $85.00 surge
guard.
G
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| | From: | paulh | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:38:19 +1100 |
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| On 22 Jan 2005 14:06:35 +1100, GB wrote:
>SmeeR11S wrote in news:35cbkvF4l62c7U1@individual.net:
>> A surge guard is fitted to the fusebox of the house where the power
>> comes in from the street.
>> IT will burn out before the house wiring goes up due to an outside
>> power surge.
>
> Actually, that's technically incorrect. In practical terms,
>your $8000 wide flat LCD telly with the double overhead
>flurgenhurgers will burn out to save the $85.00 surge
>guard.
Thank god for that... I'm not made of Surge Guards ya know...
paulh
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| | From: | Theo Bekkers | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon SURGE GUARD | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:40:43 +0800 |
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| GB wrote:
> Actually, that's technically incorrect. In practical terms,
> your $8000 wide flat LCD telly with the double overhead
> flurgenhurgers will burn out to save the $85.00 surge
> guard.
My 103 cm Samsung LCD has the flurgenhurgens on the sides. And it is now on
special at Hardley Normal for $9,999. I don't know if that includes the
tilting wall bracket.
Theo
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| | From: | JustALaway | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:12:04 -0500 |
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| Unfortunatly the recent disruption in power can be attributed to recent
solar activity.
Ergon can't help you.
Pray instead....about as usefull.
JustAL
f***ing Ergon
by "Rustydog" Jan 20, 2005 at 07:24 AM
Had a 1 -2 second power brownout and when the power came back up two light
bulbs blew and now my PC freezes up at random intervals. Had 4 quotes to
fix the PC ranging from $410 to $1000. Ergon are non commital which you
can
expect I suppose, I am trying to get the PC fixed by Ergon, but my next
door
neighbours also experienced the brownout and fortunately they both work
for
Ergon so I have a couple of great witnesses.
Adrian
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| | From: | Boxer | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:21:46 GMT |
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|
"JustALaway" wrote in message
news:8bbce55c3f877482d378916f196b7ed8@localhost.talkaboutmotorcycles.com...
> Unfortunatly the recent disruption in power can be attributed to recent
> solar activity.
>
> Ergon can't help you.
>
> Pray instead....about as usefull.
>
> JustAL
Aliens, it was the Aliens.
Boxer
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| | From: | JustALaway | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:50:34 -0500 |
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| Jeeze you're so full of shit.
Everyone knows it was the Iranians deposing their WMD and Nuclear weapons
by sending rockets full of armaments into the sun.
Get your facts straight!
JustPARANOID
Captain of the 1st regiment of his majesty's Dragonriders
www.abovetopsecret.com
"THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE"
www.scullyisababe.com
;)
Re: f***ing Ergon
by "Boxer" Jan 20, 2005 at 02:21 AM
"JustALaway" wrote in message
news:8bbce55c3f877482d378916f196b7ed8@localhost.talkaboutmotorcycles.com...
> Unfortunatly the recent disruption in power can be attributed to recent
> solar activity.
>
> Ergon can't help you.
>
> Pray instead....about as usefull.
>
> JustAL
Aliens, it was the Aliens.
Boxer
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| | From: | Rustydog | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:45:53 +1000 |
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| Probably or just get over it and replace PC
Adrian
"JustALaway" wrote in message
news:8bbce55c3f877482d378916f196b7ed8@localhost.talkaboutmotorcycles.com...
> Unfortunatly the recent disruption in power can be attributed to recent
> solar activity.
>
> Ergon can't help you.
>
> Pray instead....about as usefull.
>
> JustAL
>
>
> f***ing Ergon
> by "Rustydog" Jan 20, 2005 at 07:24 AM
>
>
> Had a 1 -2 second power brownout and when the power came back up two light
>
> bulbs blew and now my PC freezes up at random intervals. Had 4 quotes to
>
> fix the PC ranging from $410 to $1000. Ergon are non commital which you
> can
> expect I suppose, I am trying to get the PC fixed by Ergon, but my next
> door
> neighbours also experienced the brownout and fortunately they both work
> for
> Ergon so I have a couple of great witnesses.
>
> Adrian
>
>
>
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| | From: | JustALaway | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:18:11 -0500 |
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| Blows chunks doesn't it?
JustAL
Re: f***ing Ergon
by "Rustydog" Jan 20, 2005 at 10:45 AM
Probably or just get over it and replace PC
Adrian
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| | From: | Pat Heslewood | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:39:34 +1100 |
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"JustALaway" wrote in message
news:5457f501c4a0b1af426a4a24009913d1@localhost.talkaboutmotorcycles.com...
> Blows chunks doesn't it?
>
> JustAL
"Last night I got really drunk,went home,and blew chunks."
"That doesn't sound so bad."
"You don't understand--Chunks is my dog..."
Postman Pat
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| | From: | Boxer | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:40:33 GMT |
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"Rustydog" wrote in message
news:csmjht$dhs$1@austar-news.austar.net.au...
> Had a 1 -2 second power brownout and when the power came back up two light
> bulbs blew and now my PC freezes up at random intervals. Had 4 quotes to
> fix the PC ranging from $410 to $1000. Ergon are non commital which you
> can expect I suppose, I am trying to get the PC fixed by Ergon, but my
> next door neighbours also experienced the brownout and fortunately they
> both work for Ergon so I have a couple of great witnesses.
>
> Adrian
You live in Queensland (Ergon) ?
And you dont have a UPS.
Shame Adrian Shame.
Boxer
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| | From: | Rustydog | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:47:38 +1000 |
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| I know Iknow even the ERGON neighbour as a UPS one thast'll keep his PC
going for 5 hours. Hmmm maybe I should have taken that has a hint?
Adrian
"Boxer" wrote in message
news:56DHd.125130$K7.102176@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Rustydog" wrote in message
> news:csmjht$dhs$1@austar-news.austar.net.au...
>> Had a 1 -2 second power brownout and when the power came back up two
>> light bulbs blew and now my PC freezes up at random intervals. Had 4
>> quotes to fix the PC ranging from $410 to $1000. Ergon are non commital
>> which you can expect I suppose, I am trying to get the PC fixed by Ergon,
>> but my next door neighbours also experienced the brownout and fortunately
>> they both work for Ergon so I have a couple of great witnesses.
>>
>> Adrian
>
> You live in Queensland (Ergon) ?
>
> And you dont have a UPS.
>
> Shame Adrian Shame.
>
> Boxer
>
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| | From: | Knobdoodle | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:56:32 +1000 |
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| "Rustydog" wrote in message
news:csmjht$dhs$1@austar-news.austar.net.au...
> Had a 1 -2 second power brownout and when the power came back up two
> light bulbs blew and now my PC freezes up at random intervals. Had 4
> quotes to fix the PC ranging from $410 to $1000. Ergon are non commital
> which you can expect I suppose, I am trying to get the PC fixed by Ergon,
> but my next door neighbours also experienced the brownout and fortunately
> they both work for Ergon so I have a couple of great witnesses.
>
Is it covered under "fusion" on your house insurance?
Clem
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| | From: | Theo Bekkers | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:43:22 +0800 |
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| Knobdoodle wrote:
> Is it covered under "fusion" on your house insurance?
I first thought you had written fission. No insurance company covers that.
Theo
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| | From: | Moike | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:43:19 +1100 |
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| Theo Bekkers wrote:
> Knobdoodle wrote:
>
>
>>Is it covered under "fusion" on your house insurance?
>
>
> I first thought you had written fission. No insurance company covers that.
>
> Theo
>
>
http://evilurl.com/smutDONGDILDO
Moike
(or did I hear you wrong?)
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| | From: | Theo Bekkers | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:21:08 +0800 |
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| Moike wrote:
> Theo Bekkers wrote:
>> I first thought you had written fission. No insurance company covers
>> that.
> http://evilurl.com/smutDONGDILDO
> (or did I hear you wrong?)
Not taking the bait thanks.
Theo
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| | From: | GB | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | 21 Jan 2005 18:56:02 +1100 |
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| "Theo Bekkers" wrote in news:41f08401$1
@news.bekkers.com.au:
> Moike wrote:
>> Theo Bekkers wrote:
>>> I first thought you had written fission. No insurance company covers
>>> that.
>> http://evilurl.com/smutDONGDILDO
>> (or did I hear you wrong?)
> Not taking the bait thanks.
You're right not to, it smells a bit fishy.
G
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| | From: | Rustydog | | Subject: | Re: f***ing Ergon | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:34:59 +1000 |
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| No unfortunately
Adrian
"Knobdoodle" wrote in message
news:359o5mF4k0v3nU1@individual.net...
> "Rustydog" wrote in message
> news:csmjht$dhs$1@austar-news.austar.net.au...
>> Had a 1 -2 second power brownout and when the power came back up two
>> light bulbs blew and now my PC freezes up at random intervals. Had 4
>> quotes to fix the PC ranging from $410 to $1000. Ergon are non commital
>> which you can expect I suppose, I am trying to get the PC fixed by Ergon,
>> but my next door neighbours also experienced the brownout and fortunately
>> they both work for Ergon so I have a couple of great witnesses.
>>
> Is it covered under "fusion" on your house insurance?
> Clem
>
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