My child was riding her electric scooter (one of the push to start . 16 k
top speed) on the footpath while I was walking with her, she was wearing a
helmet and is allowed by our local laws to ride a bike/scooter on footpath
when with adult.
My plod pulls up and says to me that the riding of powered scooter is
illegal, they don't comply , just then senior citizen goes past in his
gopher/scooter buggy (the vehcile disabled and old people get around in) at
running pace, I point this out to Mr plod that senior citizens vehcile is
also illegal according to the reasons he just gave me and what about
electric wheel chairs?. Told me I was a trouble maker and said he would send
me a breach notice in the mail ( didn't know they could still do that)
Question is: what is a leagl vehcile and where can certain vehciles / toys
be used ??

Michael Chester
Cootamundra

From:	Mad Biker
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:12:38 +1100

What ticket did they issue you with?

under my understanding, and this came from the highway boss that also covers
coot was that

most electric scooters were legal, only the petrol ones were restricted, and
needed to be a registered under the roads and transport registration act

id suggest, when you get the ticket go to the local area command and speak
with the highway sergeant about it, as i think its entered in error it
should be cancelled.

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"Michael Chester" wrote in message
news:TY4Id.127584$K7.26528@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> My child was riding her electric scooter (one of the push to start . 16 k
> top speed) on the footpath while I was walking with her, she was wearing a
> helmet and is allowed by our local laws to ride a bike/scooter on footpath
> when with adult.
> My plod pulls up and says to me that the riding of powered scooter is
> illegal, they don't comply , just then senior citizen goes past in his
> gopher/scooter buggy (the vehcile disabled and old people get around in)
at
> running pace, I point this out to Mr plod that senior citizens vehcile is
> also illegal according to the reasons he just gave me and what about
> electric wheel chairs?. Told me I was a trouble maker and said he would
send
> me a breach notice in the mail ( didn't know they could still do that)
> Question is: what is a leagl vehcile and where can certain vehciles / toys
> be used ??
>
> Michael Chester
> Cootamundra
>
>
>

From:	Biggus...
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:15:39 +1100

>Question is: what is a leagl vehcile and where can certain vehciles / toys be used ??
What is legal, is what the bacon wants to be on the day as u found
out.
where can they be used, motorbike clubs. or your driveway, this is the
big dummy spit the other day in the paper with 1000's sold, and
basically worthless.

From:	Nev..
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:48:09 +1100

Michael Chester wrote:
>
> My child was riding her electric scooter (one of the push to start . 16 k
> top speed) on the footpath while I was walking with her, she was wearing a
> helmet and is allowed by our local laws to ride a bike/scooter on footpath
> when with adult.

Electric Scooters?? Whatever happened to a scooter with a bell and streamers
on the handlebars or a pushbike with a basket on the front?

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

From:	Marty H
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:10:41 +1100

"Nev.." wrote in message
news:41F0FA09.DA1FD67E@mindless.com...
>
> Whatever happened to a scooter with a bell and streamers
> on the handlebars or a pushbike with a basket on the front?

I believe they still call them Harley Davisons

mh

From:	Hamish Alker-Jones
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:13:19 +1100

On 21/1/05 11:48 PM, in article 41F0FA09.DA1FD67E@mindless.com, "Nev.."
decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:

> Michael Chester wrote:
>>
>> My child was riding her electric scooter (one of the push to start . 16 k
>> top speed) on the footpath while I was walking with her, she was wearing a
>> helmet and is allowed by our local laws to ride a bike/scooter on footpath
>> when with adult.
>
> Electric Scooters?? Whatever happened to a scooter with a bell and streamers
> on the handlebars or a pushbike with a basket on the front?
>
> Nev..
> '03 ZX12R

Ha ha ha, spot the non-parent!

Hammo

From:	Dale Porter
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:10:45 +1100

"Hamish Alker-Jones" wrote
> > Electric Scooters?? Whatever happened to a scooter with a bell and streamers
> > on the handlebars or a pushbike with a basket on the front?
> >
> > Nev..
> > '03 ZX12R
>
> Ha ha ha, spot the non-parent!
>
> Hammo
>

Of course. That's why William adores his non-motorised, foot powered scooter then eh?

--
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GPX250 => CBR600 => CBR954 + VTR1000
*Add .au to e-mail address to respond*
www.ozfirestorm.com

From:	Hamish Alker-Jones
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:39:17 +1100

On 23/1/05 12:10 AM, in article 35f1meF4m0fsiU1@individual.net, "Dale
Porter" decided to come out from under the bed and
slurred:

> "Hamish Alker-Jones" wrote
>>> Electric Scooters?? Whatever happened to a scooter with a bell and
>>> streamers
>>> on the handlebars or a pushbike with a basket on the front?
>>>
>>> Nev..
>>> '03 ZX12R
>>
>> Ha ha ha, spot the non-parent!
>>
>> Hammo
>>
>
> Of course. That's why William adores his non-motorised, foot powered scooter
> then eh?

There is this condition that is typified by the lack of insight.......
I had no idea that that would yield such results.

I think I need to employ the use of IK's tennis ball and brick wall...Is it
available, IK?

Hammo

From:	IK
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:03:09 +1100

Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:
>
> There is this condition that is typified
> by the lack of insight.......
> I had no idea that that would yield such
> results.
>
> I think I need to employ the use of IK's
> tennis ball and brick wall...Is it
> available, IK?

The argument hasn't run enough laps of the same ground yet for the wall
making an appearance to be necessary.

Got your own racquet?

From:	Hamish Alker-Jones
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:36:56 +1100

On 23/1/05 1:03 PM, in article 35gdhtF4n9f86U1@individual.net, "IK"
decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:

> Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:
>>
>> There is this condition that is typified
>> by the lack of insight.......
>> I had no idea that that would yield such
>> results.
>>
>> I think I need to employ the use of IK's
>> tennis ball and brick wall...Is it
>> available, IK?
>
> The argument hasn't run enough laps of the same ground yet for the wall
> making an appearance to be necessary.
>
> Got your own racquet?

Oh. I am am impatient person then!

Hammo

I tried to run a racket, but the cops wanted more and more...

From:	Nev..
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:29:36 +1100

Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:
>
> On 21/1/05 11:48 PM, in article 41F0FA09.DA1FD67E@mindless.com, "Nev.."
> decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:
>
> > Michael Chester wrote:
> >>
> >> My child was riding her electric scooter (one of the push to start . 16 k
> >> top speed) on the footpath while I was walking with her, she was wearing a
> >> helmet and is allowed by our local laws to ride a bike/scooter on footpath
> >> when with adult.
> >
> > Electric Scooters?? Whatever happened to a scooter with a bell and streamers
> > on the handlebars or a pushbike with a basket on the front?
> >
> > Nev..
> > '03 ZX12R
>
> Ha ha ha, spot the non-parent!

*shrug* If electric scooters somehow make parenting easier than pedal powered
scooters, why not just buy the kid a chair to sit in without moving anywhere
and be done with it?

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

From:	Hamish Alker-Jones
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:32:26 +1100

On 22/1/05 12:29 AM, in article 41F103BF.E1CB33CF@mindless.com, "Nev.."
decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:

> Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:
>>
>> On 21/1/05 11:48 PM, in article 41F0FA09.DA1FD67E@mindless.com, "Nev.."
>> decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:
>>
>>> Michael Chester wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My child was riding her electric scooter (one of the push to start . 16 k
>>>> top speed) on the footpath while I was walking with her, she was wearing a
>>>> helmet and is allowed by our local laws to ride a bike/scooter on footpath
>>>> when with adult.
>>>
>>> Electric Scooters?? Whatever happened to a scooter with a bell and
>>> streamers
>>> on the handlebars or a pushbike with a basket on the front?
>>>
>>> Nev..
>>> '03 ZX12R
>>
>> Ha ha ha, spot the non-parent!
>
> *shrug* If electric scooters somehow make parenting easier than pedal powered
> scooters, why not just buy the kid a chair to sit in without moving anywhere
> and be done with it?

(giggle)

Hammo

That, was too easy, and highlighted the point (please excuse the pun)

From:	Nev..
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:38:21 +1100

Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:
>
> On 22/1/05 12:29 AM, in article 41F103BF.E1CB33CF@mindless.com, "Nev.."
> decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:
>
> > Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:
> >>
> >> On 21/1/05 11:48 PM, in article 41F0FA09.DA1FD67E@mindless.com, "Nev.."
> >> decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:
> >>
> >>> Michael Chester wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> My child was riding her electric scooter (one of the push to start . 16 k
> >>>> top speed) on the footpath while I was walking with her, she was wearing a
> >>>> helmet and is allowed by our local laws to ride a bike/scooter on footpath
> >>>> when with adult.
> >>>
> >>> Electric Scooters?? Whatever happened to a scooter with a bell and
> >>> streamers
> >>> on the handlebars or a pushbike with a basket on the front?
> >>>
> >>> Nev..
> >>> '03 ZX12R
> >>
> >> Ha ha ha, spot the non-parent!
> >
> > *shrug* If electric scooters somehow make parenting easier than pedal powered
> > scooters, why not just buy the kid a chair to sit in without moving anywhere
> > and be done with it?
>
> (giggle)
>
> Hammo
>
> That, was too easy, and highlighted the point (please excuse the pun)

you're going to have to explain it for all the non-parents...

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

From:	Hamish Alker-Jones
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:46:19 +1100

On 22/1/05 12:38 AM, in article 41F105CD.9E8AA2A4@mindless.com, "Nev.."
decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:

> Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:
>>
>> On 22/1/05 12:29 AM, in article 41F103BF.E1CB33CF@mindless.com, "Nev.."
>> decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:
>>
>>> Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 21/1/05 11:48 PM, in article 41F0FA09.DA1FD67E@mindless.com, "Nev.."
>>>> decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:
>>>>
>>>>> Michael Chester wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My child was riding her electric scooter (one of the push to start . 16 k
>>>>>> top speed) on the footpath while I was walking with her, she was wearing
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> helmet and is allowed by our local laws to ride a bike/scooter on
>>>>>> footpath
>>>>>> when with adult.
>>>>>
>>>>> Electric Scooters?? Whatever happened to a scooter with a bell and
>>>>> streamers
>>>>> on the handlebars or a pushbike with a basket on the front?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nev..
>>>>> '03 ZX12R
>>>>
>>>> Ha ha ha, spot the non-parent!
>>>
>>> *shrug* If electric scooters somehow make parenting easier than pedal
>>> powered
>>> scooters, why not just buy the kid a chair to sit in without moving anywhere
>>> and be done with it?
>>
>> (giggle)
>>
>> Hammo
>>
>> That, was too easy, and highlighted the point (please excuse the pun)
>
> you're going to have to explain it for all the non-parents...
>
> Nev..
> '03 ZX12R

....and ruin the fun?

I'm not about to have an IK moment and post a verbose tome. Some of us are
on dial up.

Hammo

From:	Gary Woodman
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	22 Jan 2005 12:54:03 +1100

Hamish Alker-Jones wrote in
news:BE1752DB.792C9%hammo@ihug.com.au:

> Some of us are on dial up.

So what? Some of us know how to snip.

Gary

--

Mark Latham, former Leader of the Alternative Liberal Party: "My message to
the business community is that Labor is pro-growth and pro-productivity."

From:	Hamish Alker-Jones
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:11:52 +1100

On 22/1/05 12:54 PM, in article Xns95E68363D80BBupyournose@203.22.212.136,
"Gary Woodman" decided to come out from under the bed and
slurred:

> Hamish Alker-Jones wrote in
> news:BE1752DB.792C9%hammo@ihug.com.au:
>
>> Some of us are on dial up.
>
> So what? Some of us know how to snip.
>
> Gary

Wow, you can snip before you download!!

Hammo

Sure you didn't mean snipe?

ObKingOfTheHill : Wooo loo loo woo loo loo

From:	Nev..
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:08:34 +1100

Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:
>
> On 22/1/05 12:38 AM, in article 41F105CD.9E8AA2A4@mindless.com, "Nev.."
> decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:
>
> > Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:
> >>
> >> On 22/1/05 12:29 AM, in article 41F103BF.E1CB33CF@mindless.com, "Nev.."
> >> decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:
> >>
> >>> Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 21/1/05 11:48 PM, in article 41F0FA09.DA1FD67E@mindless.com, "Nev.."
> >>>> decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Michael Chester wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My child was riding her electric scooter (one of the push to start . 16 k
> >>>>>> top speed) on the footpath while I was walking with her, she was wearing
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> helmet and is allowed by our local laws to ride a bike/scooter on
> >>>>>> footpath
> >>>>>> when with adult.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Electric Scooters?? Whatever happened to a scooter with a bell and
> >>>>> streamers
> >>>>> on the handlebars or a pushbike with a basket on the front?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nev..
> >>>>> '03 ZX12R
> >>>>
> >>>> Ha ha ha, spot the non-parent!
> >>>
> >>> *shrug* If electric scooters somehow make parenting easier than pedal
> >>> powered
> >>> scooters, why not just buy the kid a chair to sit in without moving anywhere
> >>> and be done with it?
> >>
> >> (giggle)
> >>
> >> Hammo
> >>
> >> That, was too easy, and highlighted the point (please excuse the pun)
> >
> > you're going to have to explain it for all the non-parents...
> >
> > Nev..
> > '03 ZX12R
>
> ...and ruin the fun?
>
> I'm not about to have an IK moment and post a verbose tome. Some of us are
> on dial up.

That is the most lame response I've read tonight.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

From:	Hamish Alker-Jones
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:51:23 +1100

On 22/1/05 1:08 AM, in article 41F10CE2.8FD72223@mindless.com, "Nev.."
decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:

> Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:
>>
>> On 22/1/05 12:38 AM, in article 41F105CD.9E8AA2A4@mindless.com, "Nev.."
>> decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:
>>
>>> Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 22/1/05 12:29 AM, in article 41F103BF.E1CB33CF@mindless.com, "Nev.."
>>>> decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:
>>>>
>>>>> Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21/1/05 11:48 PM, in article 41F0FA09.DA1FD67E@mindless.com, "Nev.."
>>>>>> decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael Chester wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My child was riding her electric scooter (one of the push to start . 16
>>>>>>>> k
>>>>>>>> top speed) on the footpath while I was walking with her, she was
>>>>>>>> wearing
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> helmet and is allowed by our local laws to ride a bike/scooter on
>>>>>>>> footpath
>>>>>>>> when with adult.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Electric Scooters?? Whatever happened to a scooter with a bell and
>>>>>>> streamers
>>>>>>> on the handlebars or a pushbike with a basket on the front?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nev..
>>>>>>> '03 ZX12R
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ha ha ha, spot the non-parent!
>>>>>
>>>>> *shrug* If electric scooters somehow make parenting easier than pedal
>>>>> powered
>>>>> scooters, why not just buy the kid a chair to sit in without moving
>>>>> anywhere
>>>>> and be done with it?
>>>>
>>>> (giggle)
>>>>
>>>> Hammo
>>>>
>>>> That, was too easy, and highlighted the point (please excuse the pun)
>>>
>>> you're going to have to explain it for all the non-parents...
>>>
>>> Nev..
>>> '03 ZX12R
>>
>> ...and ruin the fun?
>>
>> I'm not about to have an IK moment and post a verbose tome. Some of us are
>> on dial up.
>
> That is the most lame response I've read tonight.

Terribly sorry, Nev. It's much like the whale joke at rallies.

You'll understand one day.

Hammo
(, lame, you could work that in too!).

From:	smack
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:39:17 +1100

spot the first time parent :P

From:	Hamish Alker-Jones
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:42:11 +1100

On 23/1/05 12:39 AM, in article 35f3c4F4kv6vsU1@individual.net, "smack"
decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:

> spot the first time parent :P
>
>
Ahhh, bless.

Hammo

From:	GB
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	22 Jan 2005 14:00:28 +1100

"Nev.." wrote in
news:41F105CD.9E8AA2A4@mindless.com:
> you're going to have to explain it for all the non-parents...

I'm a non-parent, and I got it.

G, uncle.

From:	Theo Bekkers
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:47:34 +0800

GB wrote:

> I'm a non-parent, and I got it.
>
> G, uncle.

Uncle:- an honorary parent who gets to play all the good parts.

Theo, Granddad of six, even better than an uncle.

From:	Theo Bekkers
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:45:01 +0800

Nev.. wrote:

> you're going to have to explain it for all the non-parents...

You can't explain it to a non-parent. Kids have status problems too ya know.

My six yr old grandson entered a competition (well, his mum did) in a
toyshop and got an electric scooter in the mail. He's the kewlest kid on the
block now.

Theo

From:	fulliautomatix
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:30:29 GMT

> *shrug* If electric scooters somehow make parenting easier than pedal powered
> scooters, why not just buy the kid a chair to sit in without moving anywhere
> and be done with it?

well...u do, its called the lounge
equipped with an xbox
the kid will sit for hours playing various destroyem games which are
quite socially acceptable

woe betide thee who get outside for some fun!
soon you will not be allowed to run and kick the footy as this behaviour
constitutes a danger to pedestrians

only them with a lifetime of service to the state will be allowed
electric veagles, provided they comply and are registered

recently myself and others built an electric veagle for an old mate who
does not walk too well...using an old forklift motor and 48V of battery

it looks like an ordinary (largish) shoprider thing with flash
fibreglass covers, but boy does it fly!

there is a 'speed limited' and 'full out' setting on the controller so
it can run all day as 'required by regulation', but on 'full out' it
does about 80 kmh, does a decent burnout and WILL flip if accelerated
too hard

inboard discs on rear (from KH100), suspension (indep front, live rear
on 4 link with panhard bar), electric assist steering (modified Renault
10 rack with chain drive motor and home made controller)...senior
citizen with attitude!

luckily in QLD, if registered already (the 'original' vehicle that is)it
does not require further inspection...cos as soon as you take its covers
off it is obviously not a factory machine of any sort

so if your daughter waits till she is 60, and has $10000 to spare, she
can have an electric scooter to die for...and can use it wherever she
likes...in shopping centres, public places, footpaths, roadways etc.,
no-one will bother to check

From:	Stan Blazejewski
Subject:	Re: Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:43:58 +1100

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:29:36 +1100, "Nev.."
wrote:

>Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:
>>
>> On 21/1/05 11:48 PM, in article 41F0FA09.DA1FD67E@mindless.com, "Nev.."
>> decided to come out from under the bed and slurred:
>>
>> > Michael Chester wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My child was riding her electric scooter (one of the push to start . 16 k
>> >> top speed) on the footpath while I was walking with her, she was wearing a
>> >> helmet and is allowed by our local laws to ride a bike/scooter on footpath
>> >> when with adult.
>> >
>> > Electric Scooters?? Whatever happened to a scooter with a bell and streamers
>> > on the handlebars or a pushbike with a basket on the front?
>> >
>> > Nev..
>> > '03 ZX12R
>>
>> Ha ha ha, spot the non-parent!
>
>*shrug* If electric scooters somehow make parenting easier than pedal powered
>scooters, why not just buy the kid a chair to sit in without moving anywhere
>and be done with it?
>
You wouldn't be talking about the chair placed in front of the
computer screen would you?

--

'84 Yamy XT600, Still goin' strong!

stanblaz@netspace.net.au
www.cobracat.com (home of the Australian Cobra Catamaran)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cobra-cat/

From:	sharkey
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:07:06 +1100

Sayeth Michael Chester :
>
> I point this out to Mr plod that senior citizens vehcile is
> also illegal according to the reasons he just gave me and what about
> electric wheel chairs?. Told me I was a trouble maker and said he
> would send me a breach notice in the mail

Lucky you didn't get done for terrorism ... I hear Osama
Bin Laden has been spotted on a scooter.

*shrug* find out from the RTA if plod has a case, if he
doesn't giggle your way to Magistrate's Court.

-----sharks

From:	Iain Chalmers
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:08:37 +1100

In article ,
"Michael Chester" wrote:

> Question is: what is a leagl vehcile and where can certain vehciles / toys
> be used ??

In NSW, the RTA say "These rules state that the motorised wheelchairs (3
and 4 wheeled) used as a mobility aid that cannot travel over 10 km per
hour have been defined as a pedestrian.", so it looks like they are
_not_ going to class a 2 wheeled scooter in with an electric wheelchair
or one of thos old people billycarts...

If you search for "wheelchair" or "scooter" on the www.rta.nsw.gov.au
website there's a bunch of links ti pfd files, presumably one of them
will answer your question...

big
--
"I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit.
That's the only way to be sure." - Ellen Ripley

From:	Uncle Bully
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:15:04 +1100

> Told me I was a trouble maker and said he would send
> me a breach notice in the mail ( didn't know they could still do that)

At that point you should told him he was the trouble maker and challenged
him to a duel.
Cops send tickets in the mail when they don't have their ticket book on
them. In some cases they can't be arsed and you never get a ticket.

> Question is: what is a leagl vehcile and where can certain vehciles / toys
> be used ??

Welcome to the law. When I was in court (in NSW), the Judge said that 'those
scooters" (whatever definition that inplies) are illegal. He did however let
the guy off his ticket because he agreed the law is confusing and it was
reasonable to expect that a regular person might not know it (I thought
ignorance was not an excuse?). Anyway, the day I was there the guy got off,
so if you do get a ticket, go to court, take your kid, look all nice and
humble and you'll proably get off too.

From:	Boxer
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:48:33 GMT

"Michael Chester" wrote in message
news:TY4Id.127584$K7.26528@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> My child was riding her electric scooter (one of the push to start . 16 k
> top speed) on the footpath while I was walking with her, she was wearing a
> helmet and is allowed by our local laws to ride a bike/scooter on footpath
> when with adult.
> My plod pulls up and says to me that the riding of powered scooter is
> illegal, they don't comply , just then senior citizen goes past in his
> gopher/scooter buggy (the vehcile disabled and old people get around in)
> at running pace, I point this out to Mr plod that senior citizens vehcile
> is also illegal according to the reasons he just gave me and what about
> electric wheel chairs?. Told me I was a trouble maker and said he would
> send me a breach notice in the mail ( didn't know they could still do
> that)
> Question is: what is a leagl vehcile and where can certain vehciles / toys
> be used ??
>
> Michael Chester
> Cootamundra

If you were not riding it he can not breach you.

How old is your child?

Perhaps your child is too young to be breached?

Tell the cop to get stuffed.

Boxer

From:	corks
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:28:36 +0800

here in west oz

pocket bikes/rockets whatever you wanna call them, are illegal on the road
or in car parks or on footpaths - private property only.

electric scooter, ditto cant be used on the roads coz they are registered
nor on foothpaths, carparks
unless they are speed limited to 11kph like those senior citizens gopher
thingies

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"Michael Chester" wrote in message
news:TY4Id.127584$K7.26528@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> My child was riding her electric scooter (one of the push to start . 16 k
> top speed) on the footpath while I was walking with her, she was wearing a
> helmet and is allowed by our local laws to ride a bike/scooter on footpath
> when with adult.
> My plod pulls up and says to me that the riding of powered scooter is
> illegal, they don't comply , just then senior citizen goes past in his
> gopher/scooter buggy (the vehcile disabled and old people get around in)
at
> running pace, I point this out to Mr plod that senior citizens vehcile is
> also illegal according to the reasons he just gave me and what about
> electric wheel chairs?. Told me I was a trouble maker and said he would
send
> me a breach notice in the mail ( didn't know they could still do that)
> Question is: what is a leagl vehcile and where can certain vehciles / toys
> be used ??
>
> Michael Chester
> Cootamundra
>
>
>

From:	Nev..
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:20:24 +1100

corks wrote:
>
> here in west oz
>
> pocket bikes/rockets whatever you wanna call them, are illegal on the road
> or in car parks or on footpaths - private property only.
>
> electric scooter, ditto cant be used on the roads coz they are registered
> nor on foothpaths, carparks
> unless they are speed limited to 11kph like those senior citizens gopher
> thingies

What about electric wheelchairs.. some of those go faster than 11kph.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

From:	corks
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:08:19 +0800

nope they shouldnt, 11kph speed limted .....in this state at least

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"Nev.." wrote in message
news:41F2EDC8.FA77B863@mindless.com...
> corks wrote:
> >
> > here in west oz
> >
> > pocket bikes/rockets whatever you wanna call them, are illegal on the
road
> > or in car parks or on footpaths - private property only.
> >
> > electric scooter, ditto cant be used on the roads coz they are
registered
> > nor on foothpaths, carparks
> > unless they are speed limited to 11kph like those senior citizens gopher
> > thingies
>
> What about electric wheelchairs.. some of those go faster than 11kph.
>
> Nev..
> '03 ZX12R

From:	anteeffessceekay
Subject:	Re: Those illegal electric scooters
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:39:40 +1100

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:38:43 +0000, Michael Chester wrote:

> My child was riding her electric scooter (one of the push to start . 16 k
> top speed) on the footpath while I was walking with her, she was wearing a
> helmet and is allowed by our local laws to ride a bike/scooter on footpath
> when with adult.
> My plod pulls up and says to me that the riding of powered scooter is
> illegal, they don't comply , just then senior citizen goes past in his
> gopher/scooter buggy (the vehcile disabled and old people get around in) at
> running pace ...

Things have changed somewhat in Victoria. Under our new laws, your
daughter was busted.

-sanbar