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 | | From: | Mark Fox | | Subject: | Re: Rumsfeld fears warcrimes prosecution. | | Date: | 23 Jan 2005 11:15:56 -0800 |
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 | HawkCW4 wrote:
> hadda hadda wrote:
> > "israel t" wrote in message
> > news:87oefh6jj2.fsf_-_@kafka.homenet...
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> >>" Rumsfeld cancels trip because of warcrimes fears
> >>
> >> Friday 21 January 2005
> >>
> >> US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld cancelled a planned visit to
> >> Germany after a US human rights organisation asked German
authorities
> >> to prosecute him for war crimes, Deutsche Presse-Agentur (dpa) has
> >> learned. "
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> >
> > Not likely.
> >
> > Nobody but US can prosecute US citizen regardless what and where
alleged act
> > is committed...
> >
> >
>
> You might want to rethink that.
>
> Ed
> USA Ret
Private citizens can indeed be arrested and prosecuted by foreign
governments for actions they committed as private citizens but United
States Government officials arrested in foreign lands for decisions
they made as part of their jobs is an act of war upon the United States
and will subject the offending country to the wrath of the entire
United States military.
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| | From: | HawkCW4 | | Subject: | Re: Rumsfeld fears warcrimes prosecution. | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:20:25 -0700 |
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| Mark Fox wrote:
> HawkCW4 wrote:
>
>>hadda hadda wrote:
>>
>>>"israel t" wrote in message
>>>news:87oefh6jj2.fsf_-_@kafka.homenet...
>>>
>>>
>>>>" Rumsfeld cancels trip because of warcrimes fears
>>>>
>>>>Friday 21 January 2005
>>>>
>>>>US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld cancelled a planned visit to
>>>>Germany after a US human rights organisation asked German
>
> authorities
>
>>>>to prosecute him for war crimes, Deutsche Presse-Agentur (dpa) has
>>>>learned. "
>>>
>>>
>>>Not likely.
>>>
>>>Nobody but US can prosecute US citizen regardless what and where
>
> alleged act
>
>>>is committed...
>>>
>>>
>>
>>You might want to rethink that.
>>
>>Ed
>>USA Ret
>
>
> Private citizens can indeed be arrested and prosecuted by foreign
> governments for actions they committed as private citizens but United
> States Government officials arrested in foreign lands for decisions
> they made as part of their jobs is an act of war upon the United States
> and will subject the offending country to the wrath of the entire
> United States military.
>
Would you consider a US Soldier to be a US Gov official? And further,
my response, if you care to look again, was to a statement which stated
'Nobody but US can prosecute US citizen regardless, (did you get that?)
what and where alleged act is committed'. BTW, if it seems some words
were left out, I would agree, but that is the way he/she wrote it.
Ed
USA Ret
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| | From: | Howard Berkowitz | | Subject: | Re: Rumsfeld fears warcrimes prosecution. | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:57:15 -0500 |
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| In article , HawkCW4
wrote:
> >
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> Would you consider a US Soldier to be a US Gov official?
If that soldier, as some do, has an Official or Diplomatic Passport.
> And further,
> my response, if you care to look again, was to a statement which stated
> 'Nobody but US can prosecute US citizen regardless, (did you get that?)
> what and where alleged act is committed'. BTW, if it seems some words
> were left out, I would agree, but that is the way he/she wrote it.
>
Otherwise, the next question is whether there is a Status of Forces
Agreement with the country in question, which will govern the police and
prosecutorial authority.
If there is no such Agreement, in legal theory local law applies. There
may be practical situations where someone won't be surrendered to local
law enforcement, which is guaranteed to become a diplomatic incident.
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