You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.

Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
worth a look?

I'll start the list with

"At The Earth's Core"

From:	Zapkvr
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	16 Jan 2005 21:02:48 -0800

I disagree, that was a masterpiece. It's like saying "The day the earth
stood still" was crap. Ann Francis was superb.

From:	Jazzy
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	18 Jan 2005 12:11:55 GMT

"Zapkvr" wrote in news:1105938168.410129.145000
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

> I disagree, that was a masterpiece. It's like saying "The day the earth
> stood still" was crap. Ann Francis was superb.
>

That's ok. You can disagree. I've seen it twice now and have cringed both
times. And that's from someone who loved Lost In Space way back when.
Actually, not only have I cringed, but managed to almost laugh myself sick
when watching it.

Jazzy

From:	Kevin V. Russell
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:35:18 GMT

"Jazzy" wrote in message
news:Xns95E2E1CFB1C02jazzyzippycom@130.133.1.4...
> "Zapkvr" wrote in news:1105938168.410129.145000
> @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I disagree, that was a masterpiece. It's like saying "The day the earth
>> stood still" was crap. Ann Francis was superb.
>>
>
> That's ok. You can disagree. I've seen it twice now and have cringed both
> times. And that's from someone who loved Lost In Space way back when.
> Actually, not only have I cringed, but managed to almost laugh myself sick
> when watching it.

Did you ever see the pilot for Lost in space?

God that was corny.

I know it was meant to be a kids show but it was just plain silly.

At least Jonathon Harris redeemed himself in "A bug's life".

>
>
> Jazzy

From:	Luke Webber
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:58:13 +1100

Kevin V. Russell wrote:

> Did you ever see the pilot for Lost in space?
>
> God that was corny.
>
> I know it was meant to be a kids show but it was just plain silly.
>
> At least Jonathon Harris redeemed himself in "A bug's life".

By playing a poseur? Talk about typecasting!

Luke

From:	Kevin V. Russell
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:05:22 GMT

"Luke Webber" wrote in message
news:cso65s$f6l$2@nnrp.waia.asn.au...
> Kevin V. Russell wrote:
>
>> Did you ever see the pilot for Lost in space?
>>
>> God that was corny.
>>
>> I know it was meant to be a kids show but it was just plain silly.
>>
>> At least Jonathon Harris redeemed himself in "A bug's life".
>
> By playing a poseur? Talk about typecasting!

I think the role was written for him.

I was surprised really, I thought for sure he was already passed on.
>
> Luke

From:	Gilgamesh
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:41:36 +1030

"Kevin V. Russell" wrote in message
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>
> "Jazzy" wrote in message
> news:Xns95E2E1CFB1C02jazzyzippycom@130.133.1.4...
>> "Zapkvr" wrote in news:1105938168.410129.145000
>> @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> I disagree, that was a masterpiece. It's like saying "The day the earth
>>> stood still" was crap. Ann Francis was superb.
>>>
>>
>> That's ok. You can disagree. I've seen it twice now and have cringed both
>> times. And that's from someone who loved Lost In Space way back when.
>> Actually, not only have I cringed, but managed to almost laugh myself
>> sick
>> when watching it.
>
> Did you ever see the pilot for Lost in space?
>
> God that was corny.
>
> I know it was meant to be a kids show but it was just plain silly.
>
> At least Jonathon Harris redeemed himself in "A bug's life".

How can you say he redeemed himself when he (and the robot) was not in the
original pilot

>
>>
>>
>> Jazzy
>
>

From:	Kevin V. Russell
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:07:06 GMT

"Gilgamesh" wrote in message
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> "Kevin V. Russell" wrote in message
> news:41ef9775$1@news.comindico.com.au...
>>
>> "Jazzy" wrote in message
>> news:Xns95E2E1CFB1C02jazzyzippycom@130.133.1.4...
>>> "Zapkvr" wrote in news:1105938168.410129.145000
>>> @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> I disagree, that was a masterpiece. It's like saying "The day the earth
>>>> stood still" was crap. Ann Francis was superb.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's ok. You can disagree. I've seen it twice now and have cringed
>>> both
>>> times. And that's from someone who loved Lost In Space way back when.
>>> Actually, not only have I cringed, but managed to almost laugh myself
>>> sick
>>> when watching it.
>>
>> Did you ever see the pilot for Lost in space?
>>
>> God that was corny.
>>
>> I know it was meant to be a kids show but it was just plain silly.
>>
>> At least Jonathon Harris redeemed himself in "A bug's life".
>
> How can you say he redeemed himself when he (and the robot) was not in the
> original pilot

Well, yes he was. He was the person who caused the Jupiter 2 to go off
course and so started their quest to get home.
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jazzy
>>
>>
>
>

From:	Gilgamesh
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:22:30 +1030

"Kevin V. Russell" wrote in message
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>
> "Gilgamesh" wrote in message
> news:41efa034_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
>> "Kevin V. Russell" wrote in message
>> news:41ef9775$1@news.comindico.com.au...
>>>
>>> "Jazzy" wrote in message
>>> news:Xns95E2E1CFB1C02jazzyzippycom@130.133.1.4...
>>>> "Zapkvr" wrote in news:1105938168.410129.145000
>>>> @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>>>>
>>>>> I disagree, that was a masterpiece. It's like saying "The day the
>>>>> earth
>>>>> stood still" was crap. Ann Francis was superb.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's ok. You can disagree. I've seen it twice now and have cringed
>>>> both
>>>> times. And that's from someone who loved Lost In Space way back when.
>>>> Actually, not only have I cringed, but managed to almost laugh myself
>>>> sick
>>>> when watching it.
>>>
>>> Did you ever see the pilot for Lost in space?
>>>
>>> God that was corny.
>>>
>>> I know it was meant to be a kids show but it was just plain silly.
>>>
>>> At least Jonathon Harris redeemed himself in "A bug's life".
>>
>> How can you say he redeemed himself when he (and the robot) was not in
>> the original pilot
>
> Well, yes he was. He was the person who caused the Jupiter 2 to go off
> course and so started their quest to get home.

Actually I said "original pilot", this one wasn't actually aired until a few
years ago.
In the original one they crashed and abandoned the jupiter 2 as unservicable
to travel around in the chariot. I believe the premise was they would have
many adventures on the one planet.
I recall a line when they where entering the freezing tubes that Judy gave
up a career in musical comedy to go with her family.
It was later reshot to include the robot and Dr Smith (probably this is how
he got the spercial guest in the credits)

>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jazzy
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

From:	Syber's Books
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:42:07 +1100

Chasing Kate wrote:

> You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
> are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
>
>
> Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
> worth a look?
>
> I'll start the list with
>
> "At The Earth's Core"
>
>

Dr Strangelove ( or how I learnt to stop worrying and love the bomb )

Fahrenheit 451

Dark City

Silent running

Omega Man

West-world

From:	damnfine
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:00:09 +1030

"Syber's Books" wrote:
> Dr Strangelove ( or how I learnt to stop worrying and love the bomb )

Um, yeah. You're an idiot.

--
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From:	Ian Galbraith
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:25:56 +1100

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:42:07 +1100, Syber's Books
wrote:

[snip]

>Dr Strangelove ( or how I learnt to stop worrying and love the bomb )

How can this be described as crap, its one of the greatest films ever
made.

>Fahrenheit 451

>Dark City

Dark City is very good, better than The Matrix with which it shares
some thematic elements.

>Silent running

OTOH I think this is just about the most overrated SF film of all
time, complete crap IMHO and not even fun.

[snip]

From:	David Barnett
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:52:04 GMT

"Ian Galbraith" wrote in message
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: On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:42:07 +1100, Syber's Books
: wrote:
:
: [snip]

: >Dark City
:
: Dark City is very good, better than The Matrix with which it shares
: some thematic elements.
:
: >Silent running
:
: OTOH I think this is just about the most overrated SF film of all
: time, complete crap IMHO and not even fun.

I prefer "Fear City" (Melanie Griffiths in her younger days).

It doesn't get a good review in movie books, but IMHO good soft .

--
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"Whatever happened to you, it will previously have happened to everyone you
know, only more so."

From:	mitch
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:36:56 +1100

"David Barnett" wrote in message
news:EihHd.123703$K7.14177@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> "Ian Galbraith" wrote in message
> news:86bou01u40tsquaeuclf5r5eolk9rtpucr@4ax.com...
> : On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:42:07 +1100, Syber's Books
> : wrote:
> :
> : [snip]
>
> : >Dark City
> :
> : Dark City is very good, better than The Matrix with which it shares
> : some thematic elements.
> :
> : >Silent running
> :
> : OTOH I think this is just about the most overrated SF film of all
> : time, complete crap IMHO and not even fun.
>
> I prefer "Fear City" (Melanie Griffiths in her younger days).

Was she a pole dancer or something....?

> It doesn't get a good review in movie books, but IMHO good soft .

Body Double if you like MG... and that was good soft as well.

As far as the worst SF film.... Time Lord with Mark Hamill. I couldn't
believe the way it was edited...

Mitch

From:	Natalie
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:11:39 +1100

David Barnett wrote:
>
> It doesn't get a good review in movie books, but IMHO good soft .

ROFLOL Are you channelling JDL there David?

Natalie

From:	Brett O'Callaghan
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:58:00 +1100

Ian Galbraith wrote:

>>Silent running
>OTOH I think this is just about the most overrated SF film of all
>time, complete crap IMHO and not even fun.

Absolute garbage film. And that fricking terrible singing that
pervades the soundtrack. Ugh.

Byeeeee.
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From:	Chasing Kate
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:44:23 +1030

Brett O'Callaghan wrote:

> Ian Galbraith wrote:
>
> >>Silent running
> >OTOH I think this is just about the most overrated SF film of all
> >time, complete crap IMHO and not even fun.
>
> Absolute garbage film. And that fricking terrible singing that
> pervades the soundtrack. Ugh.
>
> Byeeeee.

Joan Baez sang the songs in the film...

From:	Luke Webber
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:24:57 +1100

Syber's Books wrote:

> Dr Strangelove ( or how I learnt to stop worrying and love the bomb )

Brilliant political satire, and a cult classic. Not crap IMO.

> Fahrenheit 451

A very influentual book, and his is the only movie ever made of it.
Production values weren't great, but it stuck pretty close to the book.
Again, not crap.

> Dark City

Never seen it, but it certainly looks like it qualifies.

> Silent running

Agreed. Crap film (but with some fairly breathtaking effects for its
time). Probably the worst 'droids ever made, and the wimpiest hero in
the history of history itself. But a bit of a romp nevertheless.

> Omega Man

I'm with you here, and to hell with Highlandish. Pure shite. Though I
don't know what pleasure is to be gleaned from it.

> West-world

Hoo-yeah.

Luke

From:	Highlandish
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:43:30 +1100

Quoth The Raven "Luke Webber " in
41ebae97$0$21869$61ce578d@news.syd.swiftdsl.com.au
>> Omega Man
>
> I'm with you here, and to hell with Highlandish. Pure shite. Though I
> don't know what pleasure is to be gleaned from it.
>

you have to watch this again, but this time imagine the entire film to be a
mental syndrome of the man rather than take what you see literally. imagine
that there is no waste land, but that he sees his environment as a wasteland
and picture in your mind that the city is perfectly normal. it turns your
entire view upside down. there is a real medical problem called "the omega
man syndrome".

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From:	Luke Webber
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:24:04 +1100

Highlandish wrote:
> Quoth The Raven "Luke Webber " in
> 41ebae97$0$21869$61ce578d@news.syd.swiftdsl.com.au
>
>>>Omega Man
>>
>>I'm with you here, and to hell with Highlandish. Pure shite. Though I
>>don't know what pleasure is to be gleaned from it.
>
> you have to watch this again, but this time imagine the entire film to be a
> mental syndrome of the man rather than take what you see literally. imagine
> that there is no waste land, but that he sees his environment as a wasteland
> and picture in your mind that the city is perfectly normal. it turns your
> entire view upside down. there is a real medical problem called "the omega
> man syndrome".

Given that the only time I've ever seen it was as a teenager at a
drive-in, I'll give it the benefit of the doubt on your say-so. OTOH,
I'm still not eager to repeat the experience, whatever the subtext.

Luke

From:	Highlandish
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:53:00 +1100

Quoth The Raven "Syber's Books " in
41eb9681@news.alphalink.com.au
>
> Omega Man
>

I disagree with adding Omega Man to this list, it is an excellent movie, but
if were going to include Heston films, why not Soylent Green (very
influential on my dreams) and the Planet Of The Apes x5 movies and 14 eps
series

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From:	John
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:32:15 +1100

"Highlandish" wrote in message
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> Quoth The Raven "Syber's Books " in
> 41eb9681@news.alphalink.com.au
>>
>> Omega Man
>>
>
>
> I disagree with adding Omega Man to this list, it is an excellent movie,
> but if were going to include Heston films, why not Soylent Green (very
> influential on my dreams) and the Planet Of The Apes x5 movies and 14 eps
> series
>

IMO the seventies were a golden age for intelligent science fiction film...
lots of plots that required some thought and imagination.

From:	mitch
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:09:35 +1100

"John" wrote in message
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>
> "Highlandish" wrote in message
> news:351joiF4h9dnvU1@individual.net...
>> Quoth The Raven "Syber's Books " in
>> 41eb9681@news.alphalink.com.au
>>>
>>> Omega Man
>>>
>>
>>
>> I disagree with adding Omega Man to this list, it is an excellent movie,
>> but if were going to include Heston films, why not Soylent Green (very
>> influential on my dreams) and the Planet Of The Apes x5 movies and 14 eps
>> series
>>
>
>
> IMO the seventies were a golden age for intelligent science fiction
> film... lots of plots that required some thought and imagination.
>

You could say that about most genre..

Mitcch

From:	thomas
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:25:47 +1100

From:	Chasing Kate
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:03:50 +1030

thomas wrote:

> "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
> news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
> > You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
> > are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
> >
> >
> > Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
> > worth a look?
> >
> > I'll start the list with
> >
> > "At The Earth's Core"
>
> I'd like to nominate The Abyss.
> But it's not fun to watch either.

What was wrong with the Abyss? It was a good popcorn movie

From:	thomas
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:12:29 +1100

"Chasing Kate" wrote in message
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> thomas wrote:
>
> > "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
> > news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
> > > You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
> > > are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
> > > worth a look?
> > >
> > > I'll start the list with
> > >
> > > "At The Earth's Core"
> >
> > I'd like to nominate The Abyss.
> > But it's not fun to watch either.
>
>
>
> What was wrong with the Abyss? It was a good popcorn movie

It is ridiculous.

>
>

From:	Kevin V. Russell
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:59:09 GMT

From:	thomas
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:25:10 +1100

"Kevin V. Russell" wrote in message
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>
> "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
> news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
> > You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
> > are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
> >
> >
> > Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
> > worth a look?
> >
> > I'll start the list with
> >
> > "At The Earth's Core"
> >
> Did anyone mention "The black hole".
>
> That was where Disney almost ended up after that farce.

That is a bad SF film, interesting concepts hidden in there though.
> >
>
>

From:	Roy Wilke
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:09:01 +1000

Kevin V. Russell wrote:

> "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
> news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
>
>>You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
>>are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
>>
>>
>>Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
>>worth a look?
>>
>>I'll start the list with
>>
>>"At The Earth's Core"
>>
>
> Did anyone mention "The black hole".
>
> That was where Disney almost ended up after that farce.

The Search For Spock

From:	Luke Webber
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:23:10 +1100

Roy Wilke wrote:

> The Search For Spock

How about _Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home_?

Chekov: "Where do you keep the nuclear wessels?"

Byoodiful.

Or an old favourite of mine _Silent Running_. Or _Barbarella_. Actually,
strike Barbarella, because I can't watch it these days. Too grown up, I
guess (sigh).

Luke

From:	Chasing Kate
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:00:30 +1030

Luke Webber wrote:

> Roy Wilke wrote:
>
> > The Search For Spock
>
> How about _Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home_?
>
> Chekov: "Where do you keep the nuclear wessels?"
>
> Byoodiful.
>
> Or an old favourite of mine _Silent Running_. Or _Barbarella_. Actually,
> strike Barbarella, because I can't watch it these days. Too grown up, I
> guess (sigh).
>
> Luke

Barbarella is cool

From:	Chasing Kate
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:03:50 +1030

"Kevin V. Russell" wrote:

> "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
> news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
> > You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
> > are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
> >
> >
> > Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
> > worth a look?
> >
> > I'll start the list with
> >
> > "At The Earth's Core"
> >
> Did anyone mention "The black hole".
>
> That was where Disney almost ended up after that farce.
> >

Really it put them in financial doo doo almost ...

Well you can add Titan A.E. It got the studio closed down

From:	Highlandish
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:47:48 +1100

Quoth The Raven "Chasing Kate " in
41E91BBE.5200D30D@internode.on.net
> "Kevin V. Russell" wrote:
>
>> "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
>> news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
>>> You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
>>> are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
>>> worth a look?
>>>
>>> I'll start the list with
>>>
>>> "At The Earth's Core"
>>>
>> Did anyone mention "The black hole".
>>
>> That was where Disney almost ended up after that farce.
>>>
>
>
>
> Really it put them in financial doo doo almost ...
>
> Well you can add Titan A.E. It got the studio closed down

no way? i realy enjoyed that, and its a wheedon screenplay

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From:	Marbigwobble
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:00:12 +1100

"Chasing Kate" wrote in message
news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
> You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
> are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
>
>
> Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
> worth a look?
>
> I'll start the list with
>
> "At The Earth's Core"
>
>
Try...
"Zone Troopers"
"Battle Beyond the Stars"
and I'm quite surprised nobody has mentioned this one.
"Plan Nine from Outer Space" the crappiest movie of all time.

From:	o{O}o
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:12:18 +1100

"Santa Claus Conquers the Martians"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058548/

http://www.badmovies.org/movies/santamars/

Above page has some photos.

There was a double screening of this on TV
on 2 different channels - 1 was SBS - at the
same time xmas 2004 around 11pm.

From:	o{O}o
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:43:50 +1100

Meant to be xmas 2003.

>There was a double screening of this on TV
>on 2 different channels - 1 was SBS - at the
>same time xmas 2004 around 11pm.

o{O}o wrote in message ...
>"Santa Claus Conquers the Martians"
>
>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058548/
>
>
>http://www.badmovies.org/movies/santamars/
>
>Above page has some photos.
>
>There was a double screening of this on TV
>on 2 different channels - 1 was SBS - at the
>same time xmas 2004 around 11pm.
>
>
>
>
>
>

From:	Roy Wilke
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:20:05 +1000

Marbigwobble wrote:

> "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
> news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
>
>>You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
>>are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
>>
>>
>>Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
>>worth a look?
>>
>>I'll start the list with
>>
>>"At The Earth's Core"
>>
>>
>
> Try...
> "Zone Troopers"
> "Battle Beyond the Stars"
> and I'm quite surprised nobody has mentioned this one.
> "Plan Nine from Outer Space" the crappiest movie of all time.
>

Someone has already mentioned "Plan 9".

But I don't think anyone's yet mentioned "Flash Gordon Conquers The
Universe", nor Harry ('Mr Burns') Shearer's first film "Abbott &
Costello Go To Mars" :)

From:	Shane Godfrey
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:15:00 +1100

From:	Luke Webber
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:11:39 +1100

Shane Godfrey wrote:

> I don't think its crap, its fun and I love it, but I'll mention an Aussie
> Film, as no one else has
>
> Turkey Shoot

Ah. I remember a Bill Young birthday roast at Kirribilli Pub Theatre
which featured Turkey Shoot rather heavily. Hosted by Paul Chubb - what
a hoot.

Luke

From:	Fuzzy Wuzzy
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:29:07 +0800

From:	Kevin V. Russell
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:01:39 GMT

"Fuzzy Wuzzy" wrote in message
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>
> "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
> news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
>> You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
>> are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
>>
>>
>> Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
>> worth a look?
>>
>> I'll start the list with
>>
>> "At The Earth's Core"
>>
>>
>
> Independence Day

When you think of all the hype that surrounded that when it came out, it
seems like quite a joke now. For God's sake, War of the worlds with Gene
Barry was a million times better.
>
>

From:	John
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:34:18 +1100

Ice Pirates

Dark Star

Return Of The Killer Tomatoes

Spaceballs

J.W.
Remove nospam to reply.

Chasing Kate wrote:
> You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
> are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
>
>
> Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
> worth a look?
>
> I'll start the list with
>
> "At The Earth's Core"

From:	Chasing Kate
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:42:19 +1030

John wrote:

> Ice Pirates

I love this one Have it on VHS

> Dark Star

Definitely funny but not sure if it is crap

> Return Of The Killer Tomatoes
>
> Spaceballs

Spaceballs? It's not that bad

From:	H00ting at nyte
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:30:27 GMT

"Chasing Kate" wrote in message
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> John wrote:
>
>> Ice Pirates
>
> I love this one Have it on VHS
>
You sad, sad bastard! :)

From:	Muddy
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:41:48 GMT

"H00ting@nyte" <347kj2598bfs987@cep24kts.cn> wrote in message
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>
> "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
> news:41EB1F03.858757C6@internode.on.net...
> > John wrote:
> >
> >> Ice Pirates
> >
> > I love this one Have it on VHS
> >
> You sad, sad bastard! :)
>

Could be worse, he could have it on Beta???

Muddy

From:	David Barnett
Subject:	Beta: was Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:52:03 GMT

"Muddy" wrote in message
news:gTKGd.121693$K7.94616@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
:
: Could be worse, he could have it on Beta???

I once had a library of Beta tapes, and then one by one all my Beta VCRs
went RS.
My brother-in-law still had a working Beta, and I gave him all my Beta
tapes a year ago.
Now his Beta has gone RS.

In the meantime I had to build up a library of Beta tapes, mainly Nelson
Eddy, Freddy Astaire, Marx Bros, etc.

--
David Barnett
"Whatever happened to you, it will previously have happened to everyone you
know, only more so."

From:	Chasing Kate
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:21:19 +1030

Muddy wrote:

> "H00ting@nyte" <347kj2598bfs987@cep24kts.cn> wrote in message
> news:njGGd.121322$K7.113368@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >
> > "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
> > news:41EB1F03.858757C6@internode.on.net...
> > > John wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ice Pirates
> > >
> > > I love this one Have it on VHS
> > >
> > You sad, sad bastard! :)
> >
>
> Could be worse, he could have it on Beta???
>
> Muddy

Betamax had better picture quality then VHS IMHO

From:	David Barnett
Subject:	Beta: Was Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:52:03 GMT

"Chasing Kate" wrote in message
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: Muddy wrote:
: > Could be worse, he could have it on Beta???
:
: Betamax had better picture quality then VHS IMHO

May be so.

All I know is that my VHS VCRs have lasted much longer than my Beta VCRs,
and I have had less trouble with them, especially with the sound heads. I
used to think Beta was superior to VHS, but I was envious that VHS could
use longer tapes.

Long before Betas became extinct, I was told in England by a British friend
that Betas were on the way out. To think I replied more or less "No way".

--
David Barnett
"Whatever happened to you, it will previously have happened to everyone you
know, only more so."

From:	Kane $Ian L$
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:57:46 GMT

> Spaceballs

Brillant movie!

From:	NewcastleBoy
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:35:33 GMT

The Incredible Petrified World

- NewcastleBoy

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:57:46 GMT, "Kane $Ian L$"
wrote:

>> Spaceballs
>
>Brillant movie!
>
>

From:	GD
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	17 Jan 2005 08:56:50 +1050

The movie that was on SBS last week:
Guitar Wolf: Wild Zero

Aliens, Zombies, and Rock and Roll heroes.

Whats not to like about a movie that has:
- two flesh eating zombies in love, and kissing!
- Chants of "rock and roll has no limits"
- A straight guy who realises he's in love with a tranny
boy because the cool guitar player told him "Nationality
and gender are no boundaries to love"
- a hero who (after falling 10 stories by being blown out
of a room by explosion) stops to retune his guitar while
still being shot at.
- an insanly mad venue owner who has green explosive laser
beams shooting out of his eyes.
- Flames shooting out of the exhausts of cars, bikes and
microphones.

....and its all in Japanese, with subtitles. :)

http://www.mandiapple.com/snowblood/wildzero.htm

From:	Highlandish
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:50:31 +1100

Quoth The Raven "GD " in
Xns95E15FD7C192alfamelbsomethingau@203.87.95.150
> The movie that was on SBS last week:
> Guitar Wolf: Wild Zero
>
> Aliens, Zombies, and Rock and Roll heroes.
>
> Whats not to like about a movie that has:
> - two flesh eating zombies in love, and kissing!
> - Chants of "rock and roll has no limits"
> - A straight guy who realises he's in love with a tranny
> boy because the cool guitar player told him "Nationality
> and gender are no boundaries to love"
> - a hero who (after falling 10 stories by being blown out
> of a room by explosion) stops to retune his guitar while
> still being shot at.
> - an insanly mad venue owner who has green explosive laser
> beams shooting out of his eyes.
> - Flames shooting out of the exhausts of cars, bikes and
> microphones.
>
> ...and its all in Japanese, with subtitles. :)
>
>
> http://www.mandiapple.com/snowblood/wildzero.htm

I recorded it, I cant wait to watch it later

--
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then wears dark glasses to avoid being recognised.

From:	Rick
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:17:15 +1030

From:	Deevo
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:53:43 +0800

From:	Chasing Kate
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:42:25 +1030

Deevo wrote:

> "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
> news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
> > You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
> > are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
> >
> >
> > Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
> > worth a look?
> >
> > I'll start the list with
> >
> > "At The Earth's Core"
>
> Starship Troopers.

But that's a good film

From:	Deevo
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:35:32 +0800

"Chasing Kate" wrote in message
news:41E8EC89.1342CEDD@internode.on.net...
> Deevo wrote:
>
> > "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
> > news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
> > > You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
> > > are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
> > > worth a look?
> > >
> > > I'll start the list with
> > >
> > > "At The Earth's Core"
> >
> > Starship Troopers.
>
>
>
> But that's a good film

But not a good SF film.
--
Deevo

Geraldton
WA, The Nanny State (® Corks)
http://members.westnet.com.au/mckenzie

From:	wils
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:45:25 +1100

"Deevo" wrote in message news:41e90e5f@quokka.wn.com.au...
> "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
> news:41E8EC89.1342CEDD@internode.on.net...
> > Deevo wrote:
> >
> > > "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
> > > news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
> > > > You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
> > > > are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
> > > > worth a look?
> > > >
> > > > I'll start the list with
> > > >
> > > > "At The Earth's Core"
> > >
> > > Starship Troopers.
> >
> >
> >
> > But that's a good film
>
> But not a good SF film.

That would rule out 99% of "SF" films made these days :)
Most being simply action films set in space...

From:	Stephen Brooker
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:39:41 +1100

> Starship Troopers.

Exactly what I was going to say.

Just watched ST2 last night. Now that is just plain old every day CRAP!

From:	Highlandish
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:53:53 +1100

Quoth The Raven "Stephen Brooker " in
350fpvF4d8gt4U1@individual.net
>> Starship Troopers.
>
> Exactly what I was going to say.
>
> Just watched ST2 last night. Now that is just plain old every day CRAP!

I saw it at BW the other day for $16, I nearly bought it, while I haven't
seen I am kinda glad I didn't buy it.

--
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A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from?

From:	Stephen Brooker
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:06:57 +1100

Highlandish wrote:
> Quoth The Raven "Stephen Brooker " in
> 350fpvF4d8gt4U1@individual.net
>
>>>Starship Troopers.
>>
>>Exactly what I was going to say.
>>
>>Just watched ST2 last night. Now that is just plain old every day CRAP!
>
>
> I saw it at BW the other day for $16, I nearly bought it, while I haven't
> seen I am kinda glad I didn't buy it.
>

Hmmm $16. I think I would still feel ripped off at that price.

From:	Gilgamesh
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:28:49 +1030

From:	Chasing Kate
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:46:41 +1030

Gilgamesh wrote:

> "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
> news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
> > You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
> > are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
> >
> >
> > Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
> > worth a look?
> >
> > I'll start the list with
> >
> > "At The Earth's Core"
>
> The thing from another world

But isn't that the one "The Thing" is based on?

> The beast from 20,000 fathoms
>
> The giant claw

Oh that one is a corker

From:	Natalie
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:15:26 +1100

Chasing Kate wrote:
>
> Gilgamesh wrote:
>
> > "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
> > news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
> > > You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
> > > are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
> > > worth a look?
> > >
> > > I'll start the list with
> > >
> > > "At The Earth's Core"
> >
> > The thing from another world
>
> But isn't that the one "The Thing" is based on?

If you mean Carpenter's movie "The Thing" it is based on the story "Who
Goes There?" by John W. Campbell, written in 1938. "The Thing from
Another World" was on the ABC recently.

Natalie

From:	John
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:39:28 +1100

"Natalie" wrote in message
news:41E8FB4E.AE92CD17@iprimus.com.au...
> Chasing Kate wrote:
>>
>> Gilgamesh wrote:
>>
>> > "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
>> > news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
>> > > You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
>> > > are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
>> > > worth a look?
>> > >
>> > > I'll start the list with
>> > >
>> > > "At The Earth's Core"
>> >
>> > The thing from another world
>>
>> But isn't that the one "The Thing" is based on?
>
> If you mean Carpenter's movie "The Thing" it is based on the story "Who
> Goes There?" by John W. Campbell, written in 1938. "The Thing from
> Another World" was on the ABC recently.
>
> Natalie

They were both based on Who Goes There, but the 1982 version was a lot
closer to the original story.

"The Thing" is one of my all time favourites... and a wildly stolen from
film.

From:	Darkfalz
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	15 Jan 2005 04:49:42 -0800

Two truly horrible b-movies that shamelessly rip off from other (much
better) movies in the cenre I can recommend are

D.N.A. (rips off Predator, Alien, Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones,
Galaxis (or Galaxy Force) (rips off Terminator 1 and 2, Star Wars,
Robocop).

From:	The Raven
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:31:00 +1100

"Chasing Kate" wrote in message
news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
> You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
> are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
>
>
> Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
> worth a look?
>
> I'll start the list with
>
> "At The Earth's Core"

Any of the Godzilla series, particularly the earlier ones.

Watched Mechagodzilla recently and was left baffled by the editing of the
fight scenes. Happened all too fast, which doesn't gel with my memories of
the other Godzilla movies.

--
The Raven
http://www.80scartoons.co.uk/batfinkquote.mp3
** Now I will bring chaos to the world!

From:	Gilgamesh
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:41:29 +1030

From:	Chasing Kate
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:01:37 +1030

I think this is the correct title

"Voyage of the Rock Aliens"

From:	Chris Cox
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:03:56 +1000

From:	Roger Smith
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:24:19 GMT

"Chris Cox" wrote in message
news:41e9221b$0$3844$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
> news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
>> You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
>> are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
>>
>>
>> Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
>> worth a look?
>>
>> I'll start the list with
>>
>> "At The Earth's Core"
>
> Who can go past "The Blob"?
>
>

"The Creature from the Black Lagoon"

From:	Roy Wilke
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:22:32 +1000

Roger Smith wrote:
> "Chris Cox" wrote in message
> news:41e9221b$0$3844$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>
>>"Chasing Kate" wrote in message
>>news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
>>
>>>You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
>>>are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
>>>
>>>
>>>Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
>>>worth a look?
>>>
>>>I'll start the list with
>>>
>>>"At The Earth's Core"
>>
>>Who can go past "The Blob"?
>>
>>
>
>
> "The Creature from the Black Lagoon"

The scene where the creature from the black lagoon went past the blob
must have been cut from the version of the film that I saw ;)

From:	Chasing Kate
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:57:45 +1030

Roger Smith wrote:

> "Chris Cox" wrote in message
> news:41e9221b$0$3844$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> > "Chasing Kate" wrote in message
> > news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net...
> >> You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
> >> are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
> >> worth a look?
> >>
> >> I'll start the list with
> >>
> >> "At The Earth's Core"
> >
> > Who can go past "The Blob"?
> >
> >
>
> "The Creature from the Black Lagoon"

That was fun...... Didn't he go after the female lead
in this movie? On second thoughts nearly all the
50s B monsters seemed to go for the lead female

From:	Jazzy
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	16 Jan 2005 11:38:24 GMT

Chasing Kate wrote in
news:41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net:

> You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that
> are really, really bad yet are fun to watch.
>
>
> Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be
> worth a look?
>
> I'll start the list with
>
> "At The Earth's Core"
>

Forbidden Planet

Jazzy

From:	Luke Webber
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:24:37 +1100

Jazzy wrote:

> Forbidden Planet

Doesn't count as crap, for several reasons.

First, it was an SF remake of a Shakespeare classic (The Tempest). Since
when is Shakespeare crap?

Second, the production values were fairly high for the times.

Third, Robbie the Robot. A truly gorgeous gizmo.

OK, there was a fair bit of ham acting, but that wasn't at all uncommon
for the time. And yes, Leslie Neilsen was prominent in the cast, but it
was pretty early in his acting career, and before he settled on comedy.

A guilty pleasure? Maybe. Crap? I think not.

Luke

From:	John
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:09:48 +1100

"Luke Webber" wrote in message
news:41ea5d04$0$21877$61ce578d@news.syd.swiftdsl.com.au...
> Jazzy wrote:
>
>> Forbidden Planet
>
> Doesn't count as crap, for several reasons.
>
> First, it was an SF remake of a Shakespeare classic (The Tempest). Since
> when is Shakespeare crap?
>
> Second, the production values were fairly high for the times.
>
> Third, Robbie the Robot. A truly gorgeous gizmo.
>
>
> OK, there was a fair bit of ham acting, but that wasn't at all uncommon
> for the time. And yes, Leslie Neilsen was prominent in the cast, but it
> was pretty early in his acting career, and before he settled on comedy.
>
> A guilty pleasure? Maybe. Crap? I think not.
>
> Luke

It's an excellent movie, and the footage inside the krell machine still
evoke a sense of the weird and inhuman.
However, I keep waiting for Neilsen to bang his forehead into one of the
Krell bulkheads.

From:	David J Richardson
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:18:14 +1100

In article <41E8D241.FEC9A963@internode.on.net>,
Chasing Kate wrote:

> You know "guilty pleasure" kind of films, the kind that are really,
> really bad yet are fun to watch.
>
> Anyone know any SF / Action type films that might be worth a look?

Star Wars -- but only because it's been poked to death, and for Puke
Groundcrawler's immortal whining line of "but i wanted to get some
power converters..."

And yes, I did read your criteria carefully :)

--
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http://davidj.richardson.name/ -- Dr Who articles/interviews/reviews
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From:	Boo Erns
Subject:	Re: Crap SF films that are fun.
Date:	Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:45:34 +1100

"Chasing Kate" wrote