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Framemaker/UNIX viable on Macs?

Framemaker/UNIX viable on Macs?  
Sarah Stegall
 Re: Framemaker/UNIX viable on Macs?  
Bruce Byfield
 Re: Framemaker/UNIX viable on Macs?  
T.W. Smith
 Re: Framemaker/UNIX viable on Macs?  
Eric J. Ray
 Framemaker/UNIX viable on Macs?  
Geoff Hart
 Re: Framemaker/UNIX viable on Macs?  
David Neeley
From:Sarah Stegall
Subject:Framemaker/UNIX viable on Macs?
Date:Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:09:32 -0800

Now that Adobe has abandoned the Mac platform, but is continuing to
support UNIX, has anyone tried running FM for UNIX on Mac OS? The Mac
OS is UNIX based; I am wondering just how compatible they are.


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From:Bruce Byfield
Subject:Re: Framemaker/UNIX viable on Macs?
Date:Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:42:46 -0800

Sarah Stegall wrote:
|
| Now that Adobe has abandoned the Mac platform, but is continuing to
| support UNIX, has anyone tried running FM for UNIX on Mac OS? The Mac OS
| is UNIX based; I am wondering just how compatible they are.

I haven't attempted it, but I imagine that the way to try would to run
it as as an X program, rather than natively.

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From:T.W. Smith
Subject:Re: Framemaker/UNIX viable on Macs?
Date:Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:18:11 -0500

I don't know but I suspect:

1) If 'twere that easy, Mac would have just sold their Unix product
for the Mac and not dumped their Mac user base like a rented mule.

2) Failing that, Mac users would be buying the Unix version of
FrameMaker and not signing "bring-it-back" petitions.

Just guesses, tho'.


On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:09:32 -0800, Sarah Stegall
wrote:
|
| Now that Adobe has abandoned the Mac platform, but is continuing to
| support UNIX, has anyone tried running FM for UNIX on Mac OS? The Mac
| OS is UNIX based; I am wondering just how compatible they are.

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From:Eric J. Ray
Subject:Re: Framemaker/UNIX viable on Macs?
Date:Sun, 23 Jan 2005 06:09:08 -0700



Sarah Stegall wrote:
|
| Now that Adobe has abandoned the Mac platform, but is continuing to
| support UNIX, has anyone tried running FM for UNIX on Mac OS? The Mac OS
| is UNIX based; I am wondering just how compatible they are.

They're not at all compatible. Software (like Frame) must be compiled
to run on a specific operating system & specific hardware. E.g.,
there's a version of Frame for Solaris that runs on the SPARC platform,
but that version does not run on the Intel platform. Frame for Unix
will run neither on the Mac hardware nor on the Mac OS.

A better approach would be running (assuming they still exist) SoftPC
and Frame for Windows under that.

Eric

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From:Geoff Hart
Subject:Framemaker/UNIX viable on Macs?
Date:Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:02:19 -0500

Eric Ray reported: <<[Framemaker for UNIX on Mac OS] They're not at all
compatible. Software (like Frame) must be compiled to run on a specific
operating system & specific hardware.>>

Yup. Though this begs the question of how difficult it would really be
for Adobe to recompile Frame for Unix so that it ran under the OS-X
flavor of Unix. Not trivial, certainly, but doable.

<and Frame for Windows under that.>>

Microsoft still sells Virtual PC for the Mac, and it runs acceptably
well for some things (e.g., typing and editing, simple Web browsing,
RoboWhatever). But it's a poor solution for processor-intensive work
such as Photoshop; it works, and may even work faster than we could
work on a PC three years ago, but it's still not as efficient as
switching to the PC for PC-only graphics software. Fortunately, most
processor-intensive software is available in Mac versions or has good
competing products available for the Mac.

I believe that Frame 7 is the final Mac release, and it (and certainly
Frame 6) runs just fine on Mac OS 9.2, which is the "classic"
environment that you can run via OS X. All that's missing is a future
upgrade path, but if the current software meets your needs now, there's
little need for an upgrade path. The only really good reason to require
that upgrade path is to obtain new features that perform tasks you
can't accomplish with the current version. In many cases, the only good
that comes from upgrading is to reward the software developer's
stockholders (cf. Word XP and 2003).

--Geoff Hart ghart@videotron.ca
(try geoffhart@mac.com if you don't get a reply)
www.geoff-hart.com


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From:David Neeley
Subject:Re: Framemaker/UNIX viable on Macs?
Date:Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:19:05 -0600

The issues would entail whether to recompile it to run under X or
under the native Mac graphical system. ("Cocoa"???).

The latest versions of OS-X can run X-windows apps side by side with
native Mac apps...so the porting necessary would be fairly simple
should Adobe choose to do so.

Personally, I don't think I'd hold my breath.

David

| Yup. Though this begs the question of how difficult it would really be
| for Adobe to recompile Frame for Unix so that it ran under the OS-X
| flavor of Unix. Not trivial, certainly, but doable.

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