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 | | From: | Steve Goltra | | Subject: | The Never Changing Gospel | | Date: | Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:59:30 GMT |
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 | In Luke 24:25-27 Christ, after His death and resurrection meets two of his
disciples on the road to Erramus. They don't recognize who He is and He
listens to their conversation for quite a while. Then, he says to them:
"25. Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that
the prophets have spoken:
26. Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his
glory?
27. AND BEGINNING AT MOSES AND ALL THE PROPHETS, HE EXPOUNDED UNTO THEM IN
ALL THE SCRIPTURES THE THINGS CONCERNING HIMSELF."
Here, He begins in Moses (Genesis) and goes through the entire Old Testament
revealing the Gospel to them, the good news, about himself. About the Lamb
that would be crucified for the sins of the world. This is the same way that
Peter, Paul and all of the Disciples taught the Gospel, from the Books of
the Old Testament. The New Testament was being lived and hadn't even been
written yet.
Do you remember what John the Baptist said, the first time he saw Jesus?
"Behold, the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world."
That is the Gospel- The Messiah, the seed of the woman, the virgin birth,
Immanuel, God with us, that comes to bleed and die on a cross (on a tree)
for the sin of mankind, and to redeem fallen man to Himself.
Always has been the Gospel, since the before the beginning of time, and
always will be until time is no more.
God bless,
Steve Goltra
P.S. You can read the whole story in Luke 24:13-26
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| | From: | TheDrewsk | | Subject: | Re: The Never Changing Gospel | | Date: | Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:48:27 GMT |
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| Well, I guess you can insult me if you want, lbrty..., but I will still
answer the posts for the benefit of anyone who reads it. By the way,
I'm only Justin the Drewsk (AKA Drewsk, AKA Justin). I have no other
names on Google groups......
Don't misunderstand! I'm not saying there is any other way to God but
through Jesus, no way. But there was another message being taught to
the Jews at Jesus' time other than His death and resurrection. His
death and resurrection was taught AFTER the Jews rejected Jesus.
But check this out. Matthew 16:21-23 is another proof.
>From that time Jesus began to show His disciples that He must go to
Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and
scribes, and be killed, and be raised up the third day. Peter took Him
aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, "God forbid it, Lord! This
shall never happen to you." But He turned and said to Peter, "Get
behind Me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to Me; for you are not
setting your mind on God's interests, but man's."
I think we'd all agree that Peter is hearing this for the first time
with a reaction like that. BUT, when did the disciples go out to teach
'the gospel'? Matthew 10:1-15! This was before Israel's rejection of
Jesus. So, what was Jesus and His disciples preaching before he
foretold of his death? Matthew 16:21 starts "from that time on"
meaning starting that moment, and continuing.
I do so enjoy getting into the bible,
Justin the Drewsk
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| | From: | Steve Goltra | | Subject: | Re: The Never Changing Gospel | | Date: | Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:16:45 GMT |
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| "In the volume of the Book, it is written of Me"
Psalms 40:7
6. Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou
opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.
7. Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,
8. I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
9. I have preached righteousness in the great congregation: lo, I have not
refrained my lips, O Lord, thou knowest.
10. I have not hid thy righteousness within my heart; I have declared thy
faithfulness and thy salvation: I have not concealed thy lovingkindness and
thy truth from the great congregation.
11. Withhold not thou thy tender mercies from me, O Lord: let thy
lovingkindness and thy truth continually preserve me.
Hebrews 10:5-14
5. Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and
offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6. In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7. Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of
me,) to do thy will, O God.
8. Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and
offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which
are offered by the law;
9. Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the
first, that he may establish the second.
10. By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body
of Jesus Christ once for all.
11. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes
the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
12. But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever,
sat down on the right hand of God;
13. From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
14. For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are
sanctified.
When we are reading Psalms we are not quite sure that we are reading about
King David, or about the Messiah. However, when we see the same verse quoted
in Hebrews we are crystal clear that the reference was not only to Jesus
Christ the Messiah, but that Jesus was final sacrifice, once and for all.
Jesus Christ's Sacrifice on the cross was what God required, not the blood
of sheep and goats. The sacrifices, taking place all the way back to Genesis
3 in the Bible were only a picture, a type, of the real sacrifice God
required that would take place in the future to save mankind from the sin
inflicted by Adam and Eve. The entire Bible is about Jesus Christ and His
Gospel of redemption and grace!
God bless,
Steve Goltra
"Steve Goltra" wrote in message
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> In Luke 24:25-27 Christ, after His death and resurrection meets two of his
> disciples on the road to Erramus. They don't recognize who He is and He
> listens to their conversation for quite a while. Then, he says to them:
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