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 | | From: | Steve Goltra | | Subject: | Re: Open View Theism | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:12:32 GMT |
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 | This is the prophecy, given by Jacob (Israel), just before he died. It is a
long prophecy, and I will only quote part of it here (Gen 49:8), but please
note that it took place over 400 years before Moses even came onto the
scene:
" 8. Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be
in the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children shall bow down before
thee.
9. Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he
stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him
up?
10. The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between
his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people
be."
You can also find similar PROPHECIES in Numbers 24:17, 19, Psalms 78:67, 68;
Luke 3:33; Hebrews 7:14; Rev 5:5.
Muz, doesn't this open your eyes to the fact that your position is without
merit? Like I said before, Moses is from the tribe of Levi. With you point
of view that God would wipe the entire Jewish nation out, save Moses is
foolishness. Christ, the Messiah was prophesized to come from the tribe of
Judah.
Give it up, Muz!!!!
God bless,
Steve
"Muz" wrote in message
news:LoGHd.700$r27.66@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >Please note Moses' punishment for not doing what God had instructed
> Him to
>>do, for not BELIEVING GOD, and for not treating God as Holy in the
> site of
>>the Israelites-it wasn't annihilation, it wasn't excommunication, it
> was
>>denial of entry into the promised land. Also of note is that Moses was
> also
>>taking the credit with God for fetching the water, when it was
> actually God
>>that was doing all of the work.
>
> However, the judgment was that Moses wouldn't enter the promised land.
> Imagine that! A descendent of Abraham not receiving the promise of the
> covenant!
>
>>The Lord's anger has waxed hot against the Israelites many times, but
> he has
>>never slayed them, never wiped them out and left just one man because
> they
>>are the people of the promise, the blood covenant partners of God
> Almighty.
>
> So, you're saying that God isn't sovereign over His people to judge
> them when they break the covenant? Again, you're right that He never
> did it. However, either it was an option for God to act as He did in
> Exo 32, or He lied to Moses. Which is it?
>
>>However, he has destroyed entire cities because of their iniquity-
> Sodom &
>>Gomorrah to name two. At the same time, God's word tells us that he
> sends
>>his Prophets to witness of his coming judgment (Just like He sent
> Jonah to
>>Nineveh as an example of His mercy). Amos 3:7 tells us of what God
> does to
>>warn of impending judgment: " 7. Surely the Lord God will do nothing,
> but
>>he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
>
> Pssst... Did God reveal to Moses what He was going to do? Sounds
> like God already fulfilled that requirement in Exo 32.
>
> Muz
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