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 | | From: | Steve Goltra | | Subject: | Re: Open View Theism | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:12:51 GMT |
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 | Muz said: "However, the judgment was that Moses wouldn't enter the promised
land.
> Imagine that! A descendent of Abraham not receiving the promise of the
> covenant!"
Steve's response: I really wonder if you are serious about this, or are just
trying to be difficult, or maybe like I said before- too literal. You read
the words, but lack the spirit of understanding of what the words mean. The
Tribe of Levi was prophesized entry into the promised land, along with the
rest of the 12 tribes.-Abrahamic Covenant- Promise of the land Gen 12:3;
Promise of the land repeated Gen 13:14-17; Abram's descendents to inherit
the land from the River of Egypt to the Euphrates River- Gen 15:18-21 [this
will be fully fulfilled in the Millennium Isaiah 27:12; Jacob given the
promises of the Abrahamic Covenant Gen 28:14; The Future of the 12 Tribes,
as prophesized by Jacob- Gen 49:1-28; Prophecy that the scepter, referring
to the future Messiah, would come from the tribe of Judah- Gen 49:10-12; GOD
APPOINTED MOSES DELIVERER OF ISRAEL-Ex. 3:10; God promised that Moses would
lead Israel out of Egypt- Ex. 6:1-8.
The promise of the land (blood covenant) was made to Abraham and his seed.
Moses was not prophesized anywhere in the Scripture that he would
specifically ever enter into it. The reason for that is that God already
knew, before time began, exactly what would disqualify Moses from entering
the land. God knows the end from the beginning- He always has and always
will.
It should be quite clear to you that you have no position in this matter.
God would never annihilate the Israelites, his blood covenant partner, ever.
You have no understanding of the importance of the Blood Covenant. The Old
Testament is the "Old Blood Covenant" and the New Testament is the "New
Blood Covenant". God's plan for fallen man! 12 tribes entered the land, 12
Apostles were chosen by Christ, and in the New Heaven and New Earth Christ
reveals to us in Revelation 21-that the great city, the holy Jerusalem,
descending out of heaven from God, will have the following:
11. Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most
precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; 12. And had a wall
great and high, and had TWELVE GATES, and at the gates twelve angels, and
NAMES WRITTEN THEREON, WHICH ARE THE NAMES OF THE TRIBES OF THE CHILDREN OF
ISRAEL:13. On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south
three gates; and on the west three gates. 14. And the WALL OF THE CITY HAD
TWELVE FOUNDATIONS, AND IN THEM THE NAMES OF THE TWELVE APOSTLES OF THE
LAMB. 27. And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that
defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they
which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Gods plan of redemption for fallen man was in place before the foundation of
the world. The plan has never changed-it is God's plan and it is on time.
God bless,
Steve
P.S.
Try and use scripture, instead of sarcasm and flawed human logic when
posting. It would be a breath of fresh air.
"Muz" wrote in message
news:LoGHd.700$r27.66@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >Please note Moses' punishment for not doing what God had instructed
> Him to
>>do, for not BELIEVING GOD, and for not treating God as Holy in the
> site of
>>the Israelites-it wasn't annihilation, it wasn't excommunication, it
> was
>>denial of entry into the promised land. Also of note is that Moses was
> also
>>taking the credit with God for fetching the water, when it was
> actually God
>>that was doing all of the work.
>
> However, the judgment was that Moses wouldn't enter the promised land.
> Imagine that! A descendent of Abraham not receiving the promise of the
> covenant!
>
>>The Lord's anger has waxed hot against the Israelites many times, but
> he has
>>never slayed them, never wiped them out and left just one man because
> they
>>are the people of the promise, the blood covenant partners of God
> Almighty.
>
> So, you're saying that God isn't sovereign over His people to judge
> them when they break the covenant? Again, you're right that He never
> did it. However, either it was an option for God to act as He did in
> Exo 32, or He lied to Moses. Which is it?
>
>>However, he has destroyed entire cities because of their iniquity-
> Sodom &
>>Gomorrah to name two. At the same time, God's word tells us that he
> sends
>>his Prophets to witness of his coming judgment (Just like He sent
> Jonah to
>>Nineveh as an example of His mercy). Amos 3:7 tells us of what God
> does to
>>warn of impending judgment: " 7. Surely the Lord God will do nothing,
> but
>>he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
>
> Pssst... Did God reveal to Moses what He was going to do? Sounds
> like God already fulfilled that requirement in Exo 32.
>
> Muz
>
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