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Crossover in digital domain?

Crossover in digital domain?  
Robin Bowes
 Re: Crossover in digital domain?  
Jon Harris
 Re: Crossover in digital domain?  
Al Clark
 Re: Crossover in digital domain?  
glen herrmannsfeldt
 Re: Crossover in digital domain?  
Uli
From:Robin Bowes
Subject:Crossover in digital domain?
Date:Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:00:57 GMT
[Also posted to music-dsp mailing list]

Hi,

I'm playing around with my bi-amping audio system [1] and an idea popped
into my head: instead of feeding the same signal to both HF and LF
drivers and relying on the crossovers built into the speakers, why not
have a crossover in the digital domain and use two DACs each feeding a
separate amplifier?

[1] Squeezebox -> Art DI/O DAC -> Rotel RA820A (modified)(HF) + Rotel
RB850 (LF)

I had a quick google around and found several devices that have analogue
inputs and analogue outputs, but I couldn't find anything that simply
takes a digital input signal and filters it digitally, producing a LF
and HF digital output.

Does anyone know of such a device? How easy would this sort of thing be
to build?

Thanks,

R.
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http://robinbowes.com
From:Jon Harris
Subject:Re: Crossover in digital domain?
Date:Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:57:32 -0800
It is pretty common to use digital crossovers in the installed sound market
(think stadiums, sports arenas, etc.) and even in high-end home audio. The
filtering requirements are quite simple, but finding something with the right
form-factor and price may be a challenge.

For a commercial product, check this out:
http://www.bss.co.uk/includes/product_list_include.aspx?header_id=6&archived_flag=0
but it may not be geared exactly to your market.

A DSP evaluation board with digital audio I/O may be the best bet if you like to
program. Or you may be able to find PC software that allows real-time
filtering.

"Robin Bowes" wrote in message
news:JygHd.11$Jo6.0@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> [Also posted to music-dsp mailing list]
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm playing around with my bi-amping audio system [1] and an idea popped into
> my head: instead of feeding the same signal to both HF and LF drivers and
> relying on the crossovers built into the speakers, why not have a crossover in
> the digital domain and use two DACs each feeding a separate amplifier?
>
> [1] Squeezebox -> Art DI/O DAC -> Rotel RA820A (modified)(HF) + Rotel RB850
> (LF)
>
> I had a quick google around and found several devices that have analogue
> inputs and analogue outputs, but I couldn't find anything that simply takes a
> digital input signal and filters it digitally, producing a LF and HF digital
> output.
>
> Does anyone know of such a device? How easy would this sort of thing be to
> build?
>
> Thanks,
>
> R.
> --
> http://robinbowes.com
From:Al Clark
Subject:Re: Crossover in digital domain?
Date:Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:50:29 GMT
Robin Bowes wrote in news:JygHd.11$Jo6.0
@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net:

> [Also posted to music-dsp mailing list]
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm playing around with my bi-amping audio system [1] and an idea
popped
> into my head: instead of feeding the same signal to both HF and LF
> drivers and relying on the crossovers built into the speakers, why not
> have a crossover in the digital domain and use two DACs each feeding a
> separate amplifier?
>
> [1] Squeezebox -> Art DI/O DAC -> Rotel RA820A (modified)(HF) + Rotel
> RB850 (LF)
>
> I had a quick google around and found several devices that have
analogue
> inputs and analogue outputs, but I couldn't find anything that simply
> takes a digital input signal and filters it digitally, producing a LF
> and HF digital output.
>
> Does anyone know of such a device? How easy would this sort of thing be
> to build?
>
> Thanks,
>
> R.

You can do this with our dspstak family of boards. We have an S/PDIF
board as well as analog ADCs & DACs. We are working with the Visual Audio
group at Analog Devices that will allow you to create these kind of
systems graphicalkly as well.

--
Al Clark
Danville Signal Processing, Inc.
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From:glen herrmannsfeldt
Subject:Re: Crossover in digital domain?
Date:Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:17:22 -0800
Robin Bowes wrote:

(snip)

> I had a quick google around and found several devices that have analogue
> inputs and analogue outputs, but I couldn't find anything that simply
> takes a digital input signal and filters it digitally, producing a LF
> and HF digital output.

Motorola has an application note for the 56001 for a graphic
equalizer. I don't remember if the I/O was analog with
appropriate A/D and D/A converters or digital. It seems that
the 56001 is fast enough for a stereo equalizer with a
reasonably number of bands, so should easily be enough for a
crossover.

-- glen
From:Uli
Subject:Re: Crossover in digital domain?
Date:19 Jan 2005 03:03:20 -0800
Google for BruteFIR as a PC software that enables you to build a
digital crossover by yourself. BruteFIR is Open Source and free.
Uli Br=FCggemann
   

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