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Pt. II - Continued

Pt. II - Continued  
devmail at runbox.com
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lin8080
From:devmail at runbox.com
Subject:Pt. II - Continued
Date:20 Jan 2005 20:56:01 -0800
90% of what I intend to do now and in the future is write web
applications that perform regular business processes (groupware, loan
processing, accounting, etc.), but I also want to be able to write
desktop applications (w/ GUI) using the chosen language. Boring stuff
to a computer scientist, probably, but I'm a former business
professor who became a business drone.

Smalltalk probably has the advantage for these types of apps, yes?

One of the applications will be doing natural language processing on
RSS feeds, Bloomberg terminal feeds, and Usenet postings, etc.

[For everyone who is so interested: It is essentially an application
to combat fraud in the equities markets, and based on govt. funded
research completed while I was at university studying to be a
pointy-haired boss. The primary focus is on fraudulent trade patterns,
but the NLP component would be used to find instances of stock kiting
and shilling that run afoul of investment laws. It would also be used
to find hidden risks in investment syndicates, whether formal or
informal. For example: The failure of the LTCM hedge fund was such a
huge risk to our economic system, in part, because so many of the
investment banks that cleared the LTCM trades were parroting the LTCM
trades. The banks were in awe of the Nobel-prize winning guys that
worked for LTCM..."they're brilliant, so if I do the exact same
thing, I'll look brilliant too!" The risks for the economic system
increased exponentially because of the domino effect of everyone
throwing their weight behind the same trades. One unforeseen
circumstance and everyone gets wiped out...then they had to be bailed
out by the government because it would drag the economy down the
toilet, otherwise. Your tax dollars at work.]

The NLP stuff just needs to be completed overnight, I guess in a
batch-type format...not simultaneously. I'm very interested in
learning more about what Bulent Murtezaoflu was saying about various
approaches and hardware requirements for this type of task.

I'm also interested in creating (relatively simple) expert and
agent-based systems for our company. Lisp probably has the advantage
for these types of apps, yes?
From:lin8080
Subject:Re: Pt. II - Continued
Date:Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:19:43 +0100


devmail@runbox.com schrieb:
>
> 90% of what I intend to do now and in the future is write web
> applications that perform regular business processes (groupware, loan
> processing, accounting, etc.), but I also want to be able to write
> desktop applications (w/ GUI) using the chosen language. Boring stuff
> to a computer scientist, probably, but I'm a former business
> professor who became a business drone.

This is an unexpected answere:

Learn Mathematic.

80% of what you described you want to do is math.
You can invest 15% on Psychologie and Rethoric lessons.
The remaining 5% you can easy buy on the software-market.

Think about.

To programm all that for your own, only to get exactly what you want to
have - does not justify the extravagance.

A typical programmer sits infront of his box and is heavyly afraid of
finding three or four lines of new code that goes to the ocean. Is it
that what you want? These boxes are changing and so do the code-lines.

Also, mastering a lisp-interpreter requires more than the will to do so.
I don't know your learning-curve, so set a random dimension: two years
from mornig to evening. You should eat lisp, dream from and more, only
to see that there are corners you did not visit. And what will you have
then? The world in a box, while you have it already in your brain.

Anyway. Lisp is the only way, I tell a computer to do what I mean. Since
around 1987 untill now I am glad with it. And every look over the fence
teached me horrible things are going on ...

stefan

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