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latest thread subject for reverse thread sort, collapsed

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Martin Trautmann
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Theo Vermeulen
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Martin Trautmann
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Martin Trautmann
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Sven Guckes
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Martin Trautmann
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Sven Guckes
From:Martin Trautmann
Subject:latest thread subject for reverse thread sort, collapsed
Date:12 Jan 2005 10:35:44 GMT

Hi all,

I'd expect that a reverse sort order with collapsed thread might show
the last subject instead of the first, initial subject!?


Example:

20 another thread
21 +->
22 +-> the thread moved to another subject
23 +->
24 A new thread


collapsed current:

20 another thread
24 A new thread

desired collapsed:

20 another thread
21 the thread moved to another subject


This would be useful for extensive discussions where the subject may
have shifted sometimes.

How about that?
Martin
From:Theo Vermeulen
Subject:Re: latest thread subject for reverse thread sort, collapsed
Date:12 Jan 2005 15:48:55 GMT
Martin Trautmann wrote:

> Example:
>
> 20 another thread
> 21 +->
> 22 +-> the thread moved to another subject
> 23 +->
> 24 A new thread
>
> desired collapsed:
>
> 20 another thread
> 21 the thread moved to another subject


how about

20 another thread
22 +-> the thread moved to another subject
24 A new thread

> This would be useful for extensive discussions where the subject may
> have shifted sometimes.

your option looks very annoying when subscived to lists that go off topic
easily. I have threads that go to 3 - 4 different OT-subjects ... when only
displaying the newest one, it'd be extremely difficult to find the thread




Greetings


Theo Vermeulen
From:Martin Trautmann
Subject:Re: latest thread subject for reverse thread sort, collapsed
Date:12 Jan 2005 15:57:51 GMT
On 12 Jan 2005 15:48:55 GMT, Theo Vermeulen wrote:
> how about
>
> 20 another thread
> 22 +-> the thread moved to another subject
> 24 A new thread

I forgot to mention that this version would cause more problems due to
other poor mail clients which have malfunctions on 8bit-characters or
long subject lines.
From:Martin Trautmann
Subject:Re: latest thread subject for reverse thread sort, collapsed
Date:12 Jan 2005 15:56:12 GMT
On 12 Jan 2005 15:48:55 GMT, Theo Vermeulen wrote:
> how about
>
> 20 another thread
> 22 +-> the thread moved to another subject
> 24 A new thread
>
> > This would be useful for extensive discussions where the subject may
> > have shifted sometimes.
>
> your option looks very annoying when subscived to lists that go off topic
> easily. I have threads that go to 3 - 4 different OT-subjects ... when only
> displaying the newest one, it'd be extremely difficult to find the thread

Might be interesting.

However, my need would be

- I want to see the most recent subject, especially if
the former subject is read a long time ago,
while all newer replies stick to the newer subject.

This may indicate that yet another option could be to
use the subject of the unread message

To 'find' a thread, I don't glance through the subjects, but do perform
a real find instead.


In fact one of my major needs is that I do manage requests coming in to
a common contact mail address which may be forwarded to a discussion
group with a more descriptive subject. Thus a very basic subject may
come in (such as 'question' or 'no subject'), which would be discussed
with a reasonable subject instead. Thus it's a good guess that a later
subject is better than the initial subject.
From:Sven Guckes
Subject:Re: latest thread subject for reverse thread sort, collapsed
Date:12 Jan 2005 16:31:56 GMT
* Martin Trautmann [2005-01-12]:
> Thus it's a good guess that a later subject
> is better than the initial subject.

please post the algorithm
to find "the best subject".

Sven
From:Martin Trautmann
Subject:Re: latest thread subject for reverse thread sort, collapsed
Date:12 Jan 2005 17:26:43 GMT
On 12 Jan 2005 16:31:56 GMT, Sven Guckes wrote:
> * Martin Trautmann [2005-01-12]:
> > Thus it's a good guess that a later subject
> > is better than the initial subject.
>
> please post the algorithm
> to find "the best subject".

easy job:

if sort order = thread
first subject
else if sort order = reverse thread
last subject


or even more sophisticated

if sort order = thread
if follow new thread
if reply_regexep of first new message = first subject
first subject
else
first new subject
else
first subject
else if sort order = reverse thread
if follow new thread
if reply_regexep of last new message = first subject
first subject
else
last new subject
else
last subject


Easy job - now you can put it it ;-)
Martin
From:Sven Guckes
Subject:Re: latest thread subject for reverse thread sort, collapsed
Date:12 Jan 2005 21:25:16 GMT
* Martin Trautmann [2005-01-12]:
> On 12 Jan 2005 16:31:56 GMT, Sven Guckes wrote:
>> * Martin Trautmann [2005-01-12]:
>> > Thus it's a good guess that a later subject
>> > is better than the initial subject.
>> please post the algorithm
>> to find "the best subject".
>
> easy job: [...]
> Easy job - now you can put it it ;-)

i disagree. but - ymmv.
anyway, it seems you have found your algorithm.
now write the patch. let's see how it takes
you to get it into the main distribution...

Sven
   

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