 | | From: | Martin Trautmann | | Subject: | latest thread subject for reverse thread sort, collapsed | | Date: | 12 Jan 2005 10:35:44 GMT |
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 | Hi all,
I'd expect that a reverse sort order with collapsed thread might show the last subject instead of the first, initial subject!?
Example:
20 another thread 21 +-> 22 +-> the thread moved to another subject 23 +-> 24 A new thread
collapsed current:
20 another thread 24 A new thread
desired collapsed:
20 another thread 21 the thread moved to another subject
This would be useful for extensive discussions where the subject may have shifted sometimes.
How about that? Martin
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 | | From: | Theo Vermeulen | | Subject: | Re: latest thread subject for reverse thread sort, collapsed | | Date: | 12 Jan 2005 15:48:55 GMT |
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 | Martin Trautmann wrote:
> Example: > > 20 another thread > 21 +-> > 22 +-> the thread moved to another subject > 23 +-> > 24 A new thread > > desired collapsed: > > 20 another thread > 21 the thread moved to another subject
how about
20 another thread 22 +-> the thread moved to another subject 24 A new thread
> This would be useful for extensive discussions where the subject may > have shifted sometimes.
your option looks very annoying when subscived to lists that go off topic easily. I have threads that go to 3 - 4 different OT-subjects ... when only displaying the newest one, it'd be extremely difficult to find the thread
Greetings
Theo Vermeulen
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 | | From: | Martin Trautmann | | Subject: | Re: latest thread subject for reverse thread sort, collapsed | | Date: | 12 Jan 2005 15:57:51 GMT |
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 | On 12 Jan 2005 15:48:55 GMT, Theo Vermeulen wrote: > how about > > 20 another thread > 22 +-> the thread moved to another subject > 24 A new thread
I forgot to mention that this version would cause more problems due to other poor mail clients which have malfunctions on 8bit-characters or long subject lines.
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 | | From: | Martin Trautmann | | Subject: | Re: latest thread subject for reverse thread sort, collapsed | | Date: | 12 Jan 2005 15:56:12 GMT |
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 | On 12 Jan 2005 15:48:55 GMT, Theo Vermeulen wrote: > how about > > 20 another thread > 22 +-> the thread moved to another subject > 24 A new thread > > > This would be useful for extensive discussions where the subject may > > have shifted sometimes. > > your option looks very annoying when subscived to lists that go off topic > easily. I have threads that go to 3 - 4 different OT-subjects ... when only > displaying the newest one, it'd be extremely difficult to find the thread
Might be interesting.
However, my need would be
- I want to see the most recent subject, especially if the former subject is read a long time ago, while all newer replies stick to the newer subject.
This may indicate that yet another option could be to use the subject of the unread message
To 'find' a thread, I don't glance through the subjects, but do perform a real find instead.
In fact one of my major needs is that I do manage requests coming in to a common contact mail address which may be forwarded to a discussion group with a more descriptive subject. Thus a very basic subject may come in (such as 'question' or 'no subject'), which would be discussed with a reasonable subject instead. Thus it's a good guess that a later subject is better than the initial subject.
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 | | From: | Sven Guckes | | Subject: | Re: latest thread subject for reverse thread sort, collapsed | | Date: | 12 Jan 2005 16:31:56 GMT |
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 | * Martin Trautmann [2005-01-12]: > Thus it's a good guess that a later subject > is better than the initial subject.
please post the algorithm to find "the best subject".
Sven
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 | | From: | Martin Trautmann | | Subject: | Re: latest thread subject for reverse thread sort, collapsed | | Date: | 12 Jan 2005 17:26:43 GMT |
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 | On 12 Jan 2005 16:31:56 GMT, Sven Guckes wrote: > * Martin Trautmann [2005-01-12]: > > Thus it's a good guess that a later subject > > is better than the initial subject. > > please post the algorithm > to find "the best subject".
easy job:
if sort order = thread first subject else if sort order = reverse thread last subject
or even more sophisticated
if sort order = thread if follow new thread if reply_regexep of first new message = first subject first subject else first new subject else first subject else if sort order = reverse thread if follow new thread if reply_regexep of last new message = first subject first subject else last new subject else last subject
Easy job - now you can put it it ;-) Martin
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 | | From: | Sven Guckes | | Subject: | Re: latest thread subject for reverse thread sort, collapsed | | Date: | 12 Jan 2005 21:25:16 GMT |
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 | * Martin Trautmann [2005-01-12]: > On 12 Jan 2005 16:31:56 GMT, Sven Guckes wrote: >> * Martin Trautmann [2005-01-12]: >> > Thus it's a good guess that a later subject >> > is better than the initial subject. >> please post the algorithm >> to find "the best subject". > > easy job: [...] > Easy job - now you can put it it ;-)
i disagree. but - ymmv. anyway, it seems you have found your algorithm. now write the patch. let's see how it takes you to get it into the main distribution...
Sven
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