The information provided in this newsgroup yesterday helped me figure
out how to get Quark Xpress to directly create a .pdf file.

This morning, I set up a new "printer", a Textronix Phase 840 as someone
here suggested, and instead of naming it "Quark", I named it "DirectN".
One or both of those changes allowed me to create .pdf files from
Quark by simply clicking on FILE/EXPORT/Layout as PDF.

But now I have a very serious NEW problem.

Here's the .pdf file I created with PrimoPDF:
http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test1.pdf

Here's the .pdf file I created this morning with Quark Xpress:
http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test2.pdf

Looks like I'm going to have to do some experimenting with fonts.

I didn't like the Garamond font on my Windows XP computer (where Quark
is located), so I replaced it with the Garamond font from my Windows 98
computer. That may have caused the problem.

If it's a font problem, there's no point in my continuing building the
index until it's solved.

I see the problem with page 70 displaying horizontally went away. Win a
few, lose a few.

Ed

From:	Vladimir Misev
Subject:	Re: NEW problem with creating a .pdf file from Quark Express
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:45:28 +0100

Ed Lake wrote:
> The information provided in this newsgroup yesterday helped me figure
> out how to get Quark Xpress to directly create a .pdf file.
>
> This morning, I set up a new "printer", a Textronix Phase 840 as someone
> here suggested, and instead of naming it "Quark", I named it "DirectN".
> One or both of those changes allowed me to create .pdf files from Quark
> by simply clicking on FILE/EXPORT/Layout as PDF.
>
> But now I have a very serious NEW problem.
>
> Here's the .pdf file I created with PrimoPDF:
> http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test1.pdf
>
> Here's the .pdf file I created this morning with Quark Xpress:
> http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test2.pdf
>
> Looks like I'm going to have to do some experimenting with fonts.
>
> I didn't like the Garamond font on my Windows XP computer (where Quark
> is located), so I replaced it with the Garamond font from my Windows 98
> computer. That may have caused the problem.
>
> If it's a font problem, there's no point in my continuing building the
> index until it's solved.
>
> I see the problem with page 70 displaying horizontally went away. Win a
> few, lose a few.
>
> Ed
>
Ed,
turn off any substitution. in quark, and in printer driver.
your ttf garamond is embedded (only subset), but what is a problem is
your T1 garamond, garamond-halbfet and garamond-kursiv. and your
garamond-kursivhalbfet is ttf, so there is no way that system can see
garamonds as a family...
looks like real mess to me...
and without acrobat or ghostscript, you are facing nightmare now :
but what you can do is next: turn off substitution in quark, and in
printer driver (under printing preference) graphics/TTF-download as
soft font. document options/postscript options/TTF download option:
native true type. ok, then device settings tab, font substitution table,
use Don't substitute for all fonts. and to avoid T3 fonts (you have some
in your pdf) use for Minimum/Maximum Font Size to Dl 1 pixel.

i really hope that will help, and i wish u all best,
but you have to learn a lot...

and trust me, there is no way that one can do pdf production
without proper software for pdf production :)

as The_Victor pointed:
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/doc/AFPL/get850.htm

and u can dl redmon from http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/redmon/
"RedMon is commonly used with Ghostscript and a non-PostScript
printer to emulate a PostScript printer, or with Ghostscript as
a PDF writer."

and on:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1500
you can find "Adobe Universal PostScript Windows Driver Installer 1.0.6"

dl, read docs, play around with ps and pdf, come back here,
and everyone will be glad to help you.

all best and good luck

vladimir

From:	Ed Lake
Subject:	Re: NEW problem with creating a .pdf file from Quark Express
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:44:21 -0600

> dl, read docs, play around with ps and pdf, come back here,
> and everyone will be glad to help you.
>
> all best and good luck

Vladimir,

Thanks. See my post to Stu.

I'll check with a book manufacturer tomorrow to see if they would have
any problem with the .pdf files I'll be creating from Quark XPress using
the AmeriGarmnd BT font.

If they don't see any problems, then I'll go with that font. Here's
what it looks like: http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test4.pdf

Thanks for the help.

Ed

Vladimir Misev wrote:

> Ed Lake wrote:
>
>> The information provided in this newsgroup yesterday helped me figure
>> out how to get Quark Xpress to directly create a .pdf file.
>>
>> This morning, I set up a new "printer", a Textronix Phase 840 as
>> someone here suggested, and instead of naming it "Quark", I named it
>> "DirectN". One or both of those changes allowed me to create .pdf
>> files from Quark by simply clicking on FILE/EXPORT/Layout as PDF.
>>
>> But now I have a very serious NEW problem.
>>
>> Here's the .pdf file I created with PrimoPDF:
>> http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test1.pdf
>>
>> Here's the .pdf file I created this morning with Quark Xpress:
>> http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test2.pdf
>>
>> Looks like I'm going to have to do some experimenting with fonts.
>>
>> I didn't like the Garamond font on my Windows XP computer (where Quark
>> is located), so I replaced it with the Garamond font from my Windows
>> 98 computer. That may have caused the problem.
>>
>> If it's a font problem, there's no point in my continuing building the
>> index until it's solved.
>>
>> I see the problem with page 70 displaying horizontally went away. Win
>> a few, lose a few.
>>
>> Ed
>>
> Ed,
> turn off any substitution. in quark, and in printer driver.
> your ttf garamond is embedded (only subset), but what is a problem is
> your T1 garamond, garamond-halbfet and garamond-kursiv. and your
> garamond-kursivhalbfet is ttf, so there is no way that system can see
> garamonds as a family...
> looks like real mess to me...
> and without acrobat or ghostscript, you are facing nightmare now :
> but what you can do is next: turn off substitution in quark, and in
> printer driver (under printing preference) graphics/TTF-download as
> soft font. document options/postscript options/TTF download option:
> native true type. ok, then device settings tab, font substitution table,
> use Don't substitute for all fonts. and to avoid T3 fonts (you have some
> in your pdf) use for Minimum/Maximum Font Size to Dl 1 pixel.
>
> i really hope that will help, and i wish u all best,
> but you have to learn a lot...
>
> and trust me, there is no way that one can do pdf production
> without proper software for pdf production :)
>
> as The_Victor pointed:
> http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/doc/AFPL/get850.htm
>
> and u can dl redmon from http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/redmon/
> "RedMon is commonly used with Ghostscript and a non-PostScript
> printer to emulate a PostScript printer, or with Ghostscript as
> a PDF writer."
>
> and on:
> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1500
> you can find "Adobe Universal PostScript Windows Driver Installer 1.0.6"
>
> dl, read docs, play around with ps and pdf, come back here,
> and everyone will be glad to help you.
>
> all best and good luck
>
> vladimir

From:	The_Victor
Subject:	Re: NEW problem with creating a .pdf file from Quark Express
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 23:20:59 -0500

>If they don't see any problems, then I'll go with that font. Here's
>what it looks like: http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test4.pdf
>
>Thanks for the help.
>
>Ed

You shouldn't have any problems. Good luck with your publication!

>Vladimir Misev wrote::
>> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1500
>> you can find "Adobe Universal PostScript Windows Driver Installer 1.0.6"
>>

That is a nice resource that I that I have not yet relied upon!

From:	Ed Lake
Subject:	Re: NEW problem with creating a .pdf file from Quark Express
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:48:24 -0600

Yeah. Looking it over, I can see that the headings on the pages are
okay. They use the standard Arial 12 pt font. And the table on page 75
looks okay, too. It uses standard Century Gothic 11 pt.

So, I'll have to replace the font I used for the main part of the book.
Groan! That's going to take days.

But first I'll redo Chapter 6 to see how things look with the regular
Windows XP Garamond font. I couldn't find any other good font.
Helvetica seems to be an Apple font. I don't have it.

Any recommendations?

Ed

Ed Lake wrote:
> The information provided in this newsgroup yesterday helped me figure
> out how to get Quark Xpress to directly create a .pdf file.
>
> This morning, I set up a new "printer", a Textronix Phase 840 as someone
> here suggested, and instead of naming it "Quark", I named it "DirectN".
> One or both of those changes allowed me to create .pdf files from Quark
> by simply clicking on FILE/EXPORT/Layout as PDF.
>
> But now I have a very serious NEW problem.
>
> Here's the .pdf file I created with PrimoPDF:
> http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test1.pdf
>
> Here's the .pdf file I created this morning with Quark Xpress:
> http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test2.pdf
>
> Looks like I'm going to have to do some experimenting with fonts.
>
> I didn't like the Garamond font on my Windows XP computer (where Quark
> is located), so I replaced it with the Garamond font from my Windows 98
> computer. That may have caused the problem.
>
> If it's a font problem, there's no point in my continuing building the
> index until it's solved.
>
> I see the problem with page 70 displaying horizontally went away. Win a
> few, lose a few.
>
> Ed
>

From:	The_Victor
Subject:	Re: NEW problem with creating a .pdf file from Quark Express
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:06:37 -0500

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:48:24 -0600, Ed Lake
wrote:

>Yeah. Looking it over, I can see that the headings on the pages are
>okay. They use the standard Arial 12 pt font. And the table on page 75
>looks okay, too. It uses standard Century Gothic 11 pt.
>
>So, I'll have to replace the font I used for the main part of the book.
> Groan! That's going to take days.

You do that very simply.
Utilities>Usage>click the font tab
Higlight your font and replace it with whatever you want.

>But first I'll redo Chapter 6 to see how things look with the regular
>Windows XP Garamond font. I couldn't find any other good font.
>Helvetica seems to be an Apple font. I don't have it.
>
>Any recommendations?

I would avoid the export feature, Print to file and let primo handle
it.

>Ed
>
>
>
>Ed Lake wrote:
>> The information provided in this newsgroup yesterday helped me figure
>> out how to get Quark Xpress to directly create a .pdf file.
>>
>> This morning, I set up a new "printer", a Textronix Phase 840 as someone
>> here suggested, and instead of naming it "Quark", I named it "DirectN".
>> One or both of those changes allowed me to create .pdf files from Quark
>> by simply clicking on FILE/EXPORT/Layout as PDF.
>>
>> But now I have a very serious NEW problem.
>>
>> Here's the .pdf file I created with PrimoPDF:
>> http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test1.pdf
>>
>> Here's the .pdf file I created this morning with Quark Xpress:
>> http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test2.pdf
>>
>> Looks like I'm going to have to do some experimenting with fonts.
>>
>> I didn't like the Garamond font on my Windows XP computer (where Quark
>> is located), so I replaced it with the Garamond font from my Windows 98
>> computer. That may have caused the problem.
>>
>> If it's a font problem, there's no point in my continuing building the
>> index until it's solved.
>>
>> I see the problem with page 70 displaying horizontally went away. Win a
>> few, lose a few.
>>
>> Ed
>>

From:	Stuarrt B. Henlis
Subject:	Re: NEW problem with creating a .pdf file from Quark Express
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:43:54 GMT

"Ed Lake" wrote in message
news:U_6dnd1svZtnSW7cRVn-vg@giganews.com...
> Yeah. Looking it over, I can see that the headings on the pages are okay.
> They use the standard Arial 12 pt font. And the table on page 75 looks
> okay, too. It uses standard Century Gothic 11 pt.
>
> So, I'll have to replace the font I used for the main part of the book.
> Groan! That's going to take days.
>
> But first I'll redo Chapter 6 to see how things look with the regular
> Windows XP Garamond font. I couldn't find any other good font. Helvetica
> seems to be an Apple font. I don't have it.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> Ed Lake wrote:
>> The information provided in this newsgroup yesterday helped me figure out
>> how to get Quark Xpress to directly create a .pdf file.
>>
>> This morning, I set up a new "printer", a Textronix Phase 840 as someone
>> here suggested, and instead of naming it "Quark", I named it "DirectN".
>> One or both of those changes allowed me to create .pdf files from Quark
>> by simply clicking on FILE/EXPORT/Layout as PDF.
>>
>> But now I have a very serious NEW problem.
>>
>> Here's the .pdf file I created with PrimoPDF:
>> http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test1.pdf
>>
>> Here's the .pdf file I created this morning with Quark Xpress:
>> http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test2.pdf
>>
>> Looks like I'm going to have to do some experimenting with fonts.
>>
>> I didn't like the Garamond font on my Windows XP computer (where Quark is
>> located), so I replaced it with the Garamond font from my Windows 98
>> computer. That may have caused the problem.
>>
>> If it's a font problem, there's no point in my continuing building the
>> index until it's solved.
>>
>> I see the problem with page 70 displaying horizontally went away. Win a
>> few, lose a few.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>

Dear Ed,

From the way you describe your company, they'd rather walk on razor wire
than do anything to help you and your department. But, maybe if you schmooze
them the right way, they'll break down and buy you folks the latest Adobe
Font Folio which has every family and font available. Hey, so it's going to
cost a few grand, but at least you won't be lacking for type, which I assume
may be the problem you're having. Good luck!

Stu

From:	Ed Lake
Subject:	Re: NEW problem with creating a .pdf file from Quark Express
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:34:52 -0600

Stuarrt B. Henlis wrote:
> "Ed Lake" wrote in message
> news:U_6dnd1svZtnSW7cRVn-vg@giganews.com...
>
>>Yeah. Looking it over, I can see that the headings on the pages are okay.
>>They use the standard Arial 12 pt font. And the table on page 75 looks
>>okay, too. It uses standard Century Gothic 11 pt.
>>
>>So, I'll have to replace the font I used for the main part of the book.
>>Groan! That's going to take days.
>>
>>But first I'll redo Chapter 6 to see how things look with the regular
>>Windows XP Garamond font. I couldn't find any other good font. Helvetica
>>seems to be an Apple font. I don't have it.
>>
>>Any recommendations?
>>
>>Ed
>>
>>
>>
>>Ed Lake wrote:
>>
>>>The information provided in this newsgroup yesterday helped me figure out
>>>how to get Quark Xpress to directly create a .pdf file.
>>>
>>>This morning, I set up a new "printer", a Textronix Phase 840 as someone
>>>here suggested, and instead of naming it "Quark", I named it "DirectN".
>>>One or both of those changes allowed me to create .pdf files from Quark
>>>by simply clicking on FILE/EXPORT/Layout as PDF.
>>>
>>>But now I have a very serious NEW problem.
>>>
>>>Here's the .pdf file I created with PrimoPDF:
>>>http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test1.pdf
>>>
>>>Here's the .pdf file I created this morning with Quark Xpress:
>>>http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test2.pdf
>>>
>>>Looks like I'm going to have to do some experimenting with fonts.
>>>
>>>I didn't like the Garamond font on my Windows XP computer (where Quark is
>>>located), so I replaced it with the Garamond font from my Windows 98
>>>computer. That may have caused the problem.
>>>
>>>If it's a font problem, there's no point in my continuing building the
>>>index until it's solved.
>>>
>>>I see the problem with page 70 displaying horizontally went away. Win a
>>>few, lose a few.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>>
>>
>
> Dear Ed,
>
> From the way you describe your company, they'd rather walk on razor wire
> than do anything to help you and your department. But, maybe if you schmooze
> them the right way, they'll break down and buy you folks the latest Adobe
> Font Folio which has every family and font available. Hey, so it's going to
> cost a few grand, but at least you won't be lacking for type, which I assume
> may be the problem you're having. Good luck!
>
> Stu
>
>
Stu,

I think you misunderstand the situation. There is no "company".
There's only me. I'm a retiree on a fixed income.

I'm the AUTHOR of this book. I'm typesetting it so I don't have to pay
some book manufacturer to typeset it for me. I'm planning to
self-publish the book sometime next month.

I bought the Quark XPress software a couple weeks ago. It arrived on
Friday, January 15, and I installed it on Saturday the 16th. So, I'm
losing a few days with these mistakes, but I have a lot more time than I
have money. I'm certainly NOT going to pay anyone to do the typesetting
for me. Even with all these problems, I'll still get it done a lot
faster than "professionals" will, since they will be paid by the hour.

I tried a different font - Palatino Linotype - and it looks better than
the Garamond. But it's too dark and the characters are too large.
Here's what the chapter looks like with the Palatino Linotype font:
http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test3.pdf

I also tried AmeriGarmnd BT. It's a bit smaller than I would like, but
it looks better than Palatino Linotype, and it also doesn't have the
problem I had with Garamond. Here's what it looks like:
http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test4.pdf

I'll talk with a book manufacturer tomorrow to see if they have any
problems with my .pdf file examples. If they don't, I'll just go with
AmeriGarmnd BT.

I can't buy some other font if I don't know for certain what will happen.

AmeriGarmnd BT isn't perfect. But it looks pretty good. The biggest
problem seems to be that because it's a smaller type, I'm going to be
losing some pages - about 1 page from every 20. So, I'll have to redo
all the work I did on the index.

Thanks for your help, anyway.

Ed

From:	William F. Adams
Subject:	Re: NEW problem with creating a .pdf file from Quark Express
Date:	23 Jan 2005 20:34:00 GMT

``detect'' said:
>So, I'll have to replace the font I used for the main part of the book.
> Groan! That's going to take days.

?!?

Why didn't you use styles? If you had you could replace the font in your style
sheets and it's done in minutes.

Failing that, dump to XPress Tags and run a quick search-replace using
something like BKReplacEm.

>But first I'll redo Chapter 6 to see how things look with the regular
>Windows XP Garamond font. I couldn't find any other good font.
>Helvetica seems to be an Apple font. I don't have it.

Helvetica is a standard Linotype font --- you can buy it from any reputable
font vendor. Used to be it was bundled w/ Adobe Acrobat.

>Any recommendations?

Hire someone who knows what they're doing?

William

--
William Adams
http://members.aol.com/willadams
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.

From:	Ed Lake
Subject:	Re: NEW problem with creating a .pdf file from Quark Express
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:40:13 -0600

> Hire someone who knows what they're doing?

See my response to Stu. That's not an option.

I don't think buying any fonts is an option either, since there's no
guarantee that I won't have problems with them. I have to use what is
available.

As I responded to Stu, the AmeriGarmnd BT font looks okay. I'll
probably go with it. Here's what it looks like:
http://member.newsguy.com/~detect/06-Test4.pdf

Thanks anyway.

Ed

William F. Adams wrote:

> ``detect'' said:
>
>>So, I'll have to replace the font I used for the main part of the book.
>> Groan! That's going to take days.
>
>
> ?!?
>
> Why didn't you use styles? If you had you could replace the font in your style
> sheets and it's done in minutes.
>
> Failing that, dump to XPress Tags and run a quick search-replace using
> something like BKReplacEm.
>
>
>>But first I'll redo Chapter 6 to see how things look with the regular
>>Windows XP Garamond font. I couldn't find any other good font.
>>Helvetica seems to be an Apple font. I don't have it.
>
>
> Helvetica is a standard Linotype font --- you can buy it from any reputable
> font vendor. Used to be it was bundled w/ Adobe Acrobat.
>
>
>>Any recommendations?
>
>
> Hire someone who knows what they're doing?
>
> William
>