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 | | From: | John Doe | | Subject: | NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:55:33 GMT |
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 | I find myself wanting to stop speech-recognition from time to time. Usually that is when I notice the thing paying attention when I wish it weren't. So I press the key to turn off the microphone but the thing continues processing what it has heard, sometimes for too long. I doubt it, but is there a way to get its attention immediately and force the microphone off?
I have a fast system, and I am sure that ultrafast would be better.
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 | | From: | martin at emicrophones.com | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | 14 Dec 2004 16:05:14 -0800 |
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 | Doe,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I said that the microphone will not turn off immediately during what the computer thinks is dictation. That is not what you tested for. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, I did turn the microphone off and on whilst dictating and the what I reported was exactly that, finishing dictation, turning microphone off and seeing the words were on the screen.
Instead of being so contentious, consider when I mentioned a good microphone and sound card are important that comes from 11 years experience with this technology. It should be obvious to someone as skilled as you say you are, that a microphone and or soundcard that passes unclean sound (be it extraneous electronic noise or unwanted background noise), is going to cause the software to struggle to figure out which are the words from all the other stuff. If you see that as a plug, you have read the intent incorrectly.
Martin Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc. See us at: http://www.emicrophones.com
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 | | From: | John Doe | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | Wed, 15 Dec 2004 01:20:32 GMT |
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 | You're full of it.
martin@emicrophones.com wrote:
>Path: newssvr12.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm03.news.prodigy.com!newsdst01.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newsfeed-00.mathworks.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!postnews.google.com!c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail >From: martin@emicrophones.com >Newsgroups: comp.speech.users >Subject: Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? >Date: 14 Dec 2004 16:05:14 -0800 >Organization: http://groups.google.com >Lines: 22 >Message-ID: <1103069114.600685.170310@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> >References: <1103030764.873667.249670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1103042077.260621.38400@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> >NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.45.98.145 >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >X-Trace: posting.google.com 1103069119 26396 127.0.0.1 (15 Dec 2004 00:05:19 GMT) >X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com >NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 00:05:19 +0000 (UTC) >In-Reply-To: >User-Agent: G2/0.2 >Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com >Injection-Info: c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.45.98.145; posting-account=U-Isdw0AAADr0OK1Ts3hoOkRr2rdiLMK >Xref: newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com comp.speech.users:11919 > >Doe, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >I said that the microphone will not turn off immediately during what >the computer thinks is dictation. That is not what you tested for. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Actually, I did turn the microphone off and on whilst dictating and the >what I reported was exactly that, finishing dictation, turning >microphone off and seeing the words were on the screen. > >Instead of being so contentious, consider when I mentioned a good >microphone and sound card are important that comes from 11 years >experience with this technology. It should be obvious to someone as >skilled as you say you are, that a microphone and or soundcard that >passes unclean sound (be it extraneous electronic noise or unwanted >background noise), is going to cause the software to struggle to figure >out which are the words from all the other stuff. If you see that as a >plug, you have read the intent incorrectly. > >Martin Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc. >See us at: http://www.emicrophones.com > > >
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 | | From: | martin at emicrophones.com | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | 15 Dec 2004 08:41:08 -0800 |
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 | Doe boy,
Have you ever used Dragon NaturallySpeaking? Of course you can issue to command, "microphone off," and that will turn the microphone off. You can also use the default plus key to do the same. And of course if you just want to pause for short while you can say, "go to sleep." We realize you were not able to get ViaVoice to work well for you. Did you reach out for help? I sure you there are many professionals as well as advanced amateurs who would've been willing to help you. You don't really seem to really want help, you just want to be contentious.
You still have not insert the basic question, "WHAT MICROPHONE AND SOUNDCARD ARE YOU USING." That is why I say you do not really want help you just want to make noise about professionals who advertise. When you walk down Main Street USA, would you prefer all merchants remove the name of the store and what they sell? You would not have any idea where to get an item my good microphone from http://www.eMicrophones.com. You do not have to click on the link, just ignore as you ignore any advertising you were not interested in. Don't complain about it, and just be sincere about the questions you are asking. Also, do not show that you are lying like when you said you can turn a microphone off in the middle of dictation.
I will refrain from replying to your inane postings and lack of knowledge on this subject until you answer the basic question of what microphone and soundcard are using. Have a good day. Here comes the advertising, just the warning so you can ignore it.
-- Martin Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc. The best microphones for Speech Recognition See us at: http://www.eMicrophones.com/index.asp Read, "Key Steps to High Speech Recognition Accuracy" at: http://www.emicrophones.com/docDetails.asp?DocumentID=38
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 | | From: | John Doe | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:57:01 GMT |
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 | A spammer who typically pretends to help people by ignoring what they say and pushing his microphones and soundcards on them whether needed or not.
martin@emicrophones.com wrote:
>Path: newssvr11.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm03.news.prodigy.com!newsdst01.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newsswing.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!news.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail >From: martin@emicrophones.com >Newsgroups: comp.speech.users >Subject: Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? >Date: 15 Dec 2004 08:41:08 -0800 >Organization: http://groups.google.com >Lines: 35 >Message-ID: <1103128868.760463.122560@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> >References: <1103030764.873667.249670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1103042077.260621.38400@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1103069114.600685.170310@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1103079404.033219.215710@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> >NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.45.98.145 >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >X-Trace: posting.google.com 1103128874 16467 127.0.0.1 (15 Dec 2004 16:41:14 GMT) >X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com >NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:41:14 +0000 (UTC) >In-Reply-To: >User-Agent: G2/0.2 >Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com >Injection-Info: z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.45.98.145; posting-account=U-Isdw0AAADr0OK1Ts3hoOkRr2rdiLMK >Xref: newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com comp.speech.users:11927 > >Doe boy, > >Have you ever used Dragon NaturallySpeaking? Of course you can issue to >command, "microphone off," and that will turn the microphone off. You >can also use the default plus key to do the same. And of course if you >just want to pause for short while you can say, "go to sleep." We >realize you were not able to get ViaVoice to work well for you. Did you >reach out for help? I sure you there are many professionals as well as >advanced amateurs who would've been willing to help you. You don't >really seem to really want help, you just want to be contentious. > >You still have not insert the basic question, "WHAT MICROPHONE AND >SOUNDCARD ARE YOU USING." That is why I say you do not really want help >you just want to make noise about professionals who advertise. When you >walk down Main Street USA, would you prefer all merchants remove the >name of the store and what they sell? You would not have any idea where >to get an item my good microphone from http://www.eMicrophones.com. You >do not have to click on the link, just ignore as you ignore any >advertising you were not interested in. Don't complain about it, and >just be sincere about the questions you are asking. Also, do not show >that you are lying like when you said you can turn a microphone off in >the middle of dictation. > >I will refrain from replying to your inane postings and lack of >knowledge on this subject until you answer the basic question of what >microphone and soundcard are using. Have a good day. Here comes the >advertising, just the warning so you can ignore it. > >-- >Martin Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc. >The best microphones for Speech Recognition >See us at: http://www.eMicrophones.com/index.asp >Read, "Key Steps to High Speech Recognition Accuracy" at: >http://www.emicrophones.com/docDetails.asp?DocumentID=38 > >
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 | | From: | James Salsman | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:31:22 GMT |
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 | >... pushing his microphones and soundcards on them whether > needed or not.
Asking about the equipment in use is not the same as recommending different equipment. Why not just post your system specs? And, how about putting a recording of your voice on a web server so we can see how clean your audio path is?
There are a lot of things that might cause a delay at the point of microphone deactivation. I tend to agree that kind of a problem is not likely to be the sound card or the microphone, but there's no way to tell unless you specify what you have.
Sincerely, James -- www.readsay.com - maker of the ReadSay PROnounce English literacy system 400 MHz PDA included: $499 -- http://www.readsay.com/PROnounce.html
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 | | From: | John Doe | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:33:14 GMT |
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 | James Salsman wrote:
>>... pushing his microphones and soundcards on them whether >> needed or not. > >Asking about the equipment in use is not the same as recommending >different equipment. Why not just post your system specs? And, >how about putting a recording of your voice on a web server so >we can see how clean your audio path is? > >There are a lot of things that might cause a delay at the point >of microphone deactivation.
NaturallySpeaking continues listening to and decoding continuous speech, meaning the delay is normal.
The question is whether there is a user interface method to interrupt NaturallySpeaking while it is decoding continuous speech. That won't be a voice command for the simple reason that you cannot issue a voice command in the middle of continuous speech recognition.
If confusion remains, please see and reply to my original post (the entirety of that original post was snipped immediately by Martin Markoe), where I provided what I believe to be the correct context for the question. If it remains confusing, please ask for clarification there.
I tend to agree that kind of a >problem is not likely to be the sound card or the microphone, but >there's no way to tell unless you specify what you have. > >Sincerely, >James >-- >www.readsay.com - maker of the ReadSay PROnounce English literacy system > 400 MHz PDA included: $499 -- http://www.readsay.com/PROnounce.html > > >Path: newssvr12.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm05.news.prodigy.com!newsdst02.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wns14feed!worldnet.att.net!attbi_s54.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail >From: James Salsman >User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 >X-Accept-Language: en-us, en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Newsgroups: comp.speech.users >Subject: Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? >References: <1103030764.873667.249670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1103042077.260621.38400@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1103069114.600685.170310@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1103079404.033219.215710@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1103128868.760463.122560@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> >In-Reply-To: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Lines: 18 >Message-ID: >NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.100.105 >X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net >X-Trace: attbi_s54 1103283081 24.6.100.105 (Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:31:21 GMT) >NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:31:21 GMT >Organization: Comcast Online >Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:31:22 GMT >Xref: newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com comp.speech.users:11932 >
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 | | From: | martin at emicrophones.com | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | 14 Dec 2004 18:56:44 -0800 |
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 | Doe boy wrote:
> You're full of it.
You are so erudite. You still have not said what microphone or soundcard you use?
-- Martin Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc. The best microphones for Speech Recognition See us at: http://www.eMicrophones.com/index.asp Read, "Key Steps to High Speech Recognition Accuracy" at: http://www.emicrophones.com/docDetails.asp?DocumentID=38
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 | | From: | John Doe | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:03:32 GMT |
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 | martin@emicrophones.com wrote: >Doe boy wrote:
>> You're full of it. > >You are so erudite.
Besides the fact I have so much experience playing with Windows that I can tell what another person is doing without even being there, obviously your need to sell products taints your "help".
You said "the microphone turns on and off basically immediately with both the Plus Key and the voice command".
That proves you did not "turn the microphone off and on whilst dictating". You cannot be in the middle of continuous dictation when you say "microphone off".
Another clue. NaturallySpeaking does not stop recognizing continuous dictation when the Microphone Off key is pressed.
Advertising in a four-line signature is acceptable Usenet practice, but pretending to help someone who has a problem by always suggesting their hardware is lacking, always referring them to your commercial web site, and lying in order to sell them products they might not need is not acceptable, IMO, and that's not help.
You still have not said what microphone or >soundcard you use? > >-- >Martin Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc. >The best microphones for Speech Recognition >See us at: http://www.eMicrophones.com/index.asp >Read, "Key Steps to High Speech Recognition Accuracy" at: >http://www.emicrophones.com/docDetails.asp?DocumentID=38 > > > >Path: newssvr11.news.prodigy.com!newscon03.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newsswing.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!news.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail >From: martin@emicrophones.com >Newsgroups: comp.speech.users >Subject: Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? >Date: 14 Dec 2004 18:56:44 -0800 >Organization: http://groups.google.com >Lines: 14 >Message-ID: <1103079404.033219.215710@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> >References: <1103030764.873667.249670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1103042077.260621.38400@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1103069114.600685.170310@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> >NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.45.98.145 >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >X-Trace: posting.google.com 1103079408 6103 127.0.0.1 (15 Dec 2004 02:56:48 GMT) >X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com >NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 02:56:48 +0000 (UTC) >In-Reply-To: >User-Agent: G2/0.2 >Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com >Injection-Info: c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.45.98.145; posting-account=U-Isdw0AAADr0OK1Ts3hoOkRr2rdiLMK >Xref: newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com comp.speech.users:11924 >
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 | | From: | martin at emicrophones.com | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | 14 Dec 2004 05:26:04 -0800 |
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 | John Doe,
On both my 2.8GHz with 1GB of RAM workstation and my notebook 1.6MHz Centrino with 1GB of RAM the microphone turns on and off basically immediately with both the Plus Key and the voice command. I just tried my wife's 800MHz Pentium three with 512KB of RAM workstation. There was less than one half second delay.
What are the specifications of your system? Also, if your microphone and soundcard are not top-notch, the software has to struggle to figure out what it is you said and will take much longer to process.
-- Martin Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc. The best microphones for Speech Recognition See us at: http://www.eMicrophones.com/index.asp Read, "Key Steps to High Speech Recognition Accuracy" at: http://www.emicrophones.com/docDetails.asp?DocumentID=38
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 | | From: | John Doe | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | Tue, 14 Dec 2004 15:02:45 GMT |
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 | The merchant ignores all facts and says anything to sell his microphones/sound cards.
martin@emicrophones.com wrote:
>Path: newssvr30.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm03.news.prodigy.com! newsdst02.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com! news-feed01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net!nntp.frontiernet.net! news.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com!not- for-mail >From: martin@emicrophones.com >Newsgroups: comp.speech.users >Subject: Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? >Date: 14 Dec 2004 05:26:04 -0800 >Organization: http://groups.google.com >Lines: 19 >Message-ID: <1103030764.873667.249670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> >References: >NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.45.98.129 >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >X-Trace: posting.google.com 1103030768 12168 127.0.0.1 (14 Dec 2004 13:26:08 GMT) >X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com >NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 13:26:08 +0000 (UTC) >User-Agent: G2/0.2 >Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com >Injection-Info: f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com; posting-host= 24.45.98.129; posting-account=U-Isdw0AAADr0OK1Ts3hoOkRr2rdiLMK >Xref: newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com comp.speech.users:11906 > >John Doe, > >On both my 2.8GHz with 1GB of RAM workstation and my notebook 1.6MHz >Centrino with 1GB of RAM the microphone turns on and off basically >immediately with both the Plus Key and the voice command. I just tried >my wife's 800MHz Pentium three with 512KB of RAM workstation. There was >less than one half second delay. > >What are the specifications of your system? Also, if your microphone >and soundcard are not top-notch, the software has to struggle to figure >out what it is you said and will take much longer to process. > >-- >Martin Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc. >The best microphones for Speech Recognition >See us at: http://www.eMicrophones.com/index.asp >Read, "Key Steps to High Speech Recognition Accuracy" at: >http://www.emicrophones.com/docDetails.asp?DocumentID=38 > >
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 | | From: | Richard Owlett | | Subject: | CAVAET EMPTOR RE J. DOE was Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt | | Date: | Tue, 14 Dec 2004 13:38:56 -0600 |
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 | I suggest all to NOTE BENE 1. a certain doe masks it's id 2. do a Google search for Doe as author
I've been known to be negative. I pale in comparison!
I even use a *REAL* [ if heavily filtered ] "reply-to" address.
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 | | From: | John Doe | | Subject: | Re: CAVAET EMPTOR RE J. DOE was Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:37:45 GMT |
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 | A completely unhelpful troll.
Richard Owlett wrote:
>Path: newssvr11.news.prodigy.com!newscon03.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-08!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail >From: Richard Owlett >Newsgroups: comp.speech.users >Subject: CAVAET EMPTOR RE J. DOE was Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? >Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 13:38:56 -0600 >Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com >Message-ID: <10rugc883ucho7e@corp.supernews.com> >Reply-To: rowlett@atlascomm.net >User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 >X-Accept-Language: en-us, en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >References: <1103030764.873667.249670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> >In-Reply-To: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com >Lines: 9 >Xref: newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com comp.speech.users:11914 > >I suggest all to NOTE BENE >1. a certain doe masks it's id >2. do a Google search for Doe as author > >I've been known to be negative. >I pale in comparison! > >I even use a *REAL* [ if heavily filtered ] "reply-to" address. > > >
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 | | From: | martin at emicrophones.com | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | 14 Dec 2004 08:34:37 -0800 |
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 | John Doe wrote:
> The merchant ignores all facts and says anything to sell his > microphones/sound cards.
Well excuse me. You asked, "is there a way to get its attention immediately and force the microphone off?"
You said you had a fast machine although you did not say what that was. I was kind enough to share my personal specifications and response times. The intent was to show that if your machine fell into the specification range of my machines but your response time is so different, then there must be another factor. As I have been using, selling and supporting Speech Recognition for 11 years I offered the suggestion: "if your microphone and soundcard are not top-notch, the software has to struggle to figure out what it is you said and will take much longer to process."
Sorry for trying to help. It is apparent you never post anything helpful or specific. This includes your phony name, no computer specifications and no soundcard or microphone specifications.
Ta, ta from your local, or should I say international, microphone/soundcard vendor will also just happens to offer years of experience to help people with this difficult technology.
-- Martin Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc. The best microphones for Speech Recognition See us at: http://www.eMicrophones.com/index.asp Read, "Key Steps to High Speech Recognition Accuracy" at: http://www.emicrophones.com/docDetails.asp?DocumentID=38
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 | | From: | John Doe | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:46:56 GMT |
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 | The problem IMO is that you didn't read, pay attention, or understand my post. Instead, you immediately tried to sell your microphones and sound cards. That is what you call "help".
If you took a minute to read my post beyond which you interpreted as "he needs to buy my products", you might see how your response did not take the facts into consideration.
Once again. I said that the microphone will not turn off immediately during what the computer thinks is dictation. That is not what you tested for. You simply pressed the button to turn off the microphone during idle time.
Once again. I said I have a fast computer. Not only fast, but expertly configured. I don't need to buy your products Martin Markoe.
martin@emicrophones.com wrote:
>Path: newssvr11.news.prodigy.com!newscon03.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail >From: martin@emicrophones.com >Newsgroups: comp.speech.users >Subject: Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? >Date: 14 Dec 2004 08:34:37 -0800 >Organization: http://groups.google.com >Lines: 35 >Message-ID: <1103042077.260621.38400@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> >References: <1103030764.873667.249670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> >NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.45.98.129 >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >X-Trace: posting.google.com 1103042085 28065 127.0.0.1 (14 Dec 2004 16:34:45 GMT) >X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com >NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:34:45 +0000 (UTC) >In-Reply-To: >User-Agent: G2/0.2 >Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com >Injection-Info: z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.45.98.129; posting-account=U-Isdw0AAADr0OK1Ts3hoOkRr2rdiLMK >Xref: newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com comp.speech.users:11911 > >John Doe wrote: > >> The merchant ignores all facts and says anything to sell his >> microphones/sound cards. > >Well excuse me. You asked, "is there a way to get its attention >immediately and force the >microphone off?" > >You said you had a fast machine although you did not say what that was. >I was kind enough to share my personal specifications and response >times. The intent was to show that if your machine fell into the >specification range of my machines but your response time is so >different, then there must be another factor. As I have been using, >selling and supporting Speech Recognition for 11 years I offered the >suggestion: >"if your microphone and soundcard are not top-notch, the software has >to struggle to >figure out what it is you said and will take much longer to process." > >Sorry for trying to help. It is apparent you never post anything >helpful or specific. This includes your phony name, no computer >specifications and no soundcard or microphone specifications. > >Ta, ta from your local, or should I say international, >microphone/soundcard vendor will also just happens to offer years of >experience to help people with this difficult technology. > >-- >Martin Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc. >The best microphones for Speech Recognition >See us at: http://www.eMicrophones.com/index.asp >Read, "Key Steps to High Speech Recognition Accuracy" at: >http://www.emicrophones.com/docDetails.asp?DocumentID=38 > > >
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 | | From: | martin at emicrophones.com | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | 17 Dec 2004 15:27:49 -0800 |
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 | Doe,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The question is whether there is a user interface method to interrupt NaturallySpeaking while it is decoding continuous speech. That won't be a voice command for the simple reason that you cannot issue a voice command in the middle of continuous speech recognition. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We not only use Dragon NaturallySpeaking daily, but setup and configure several systems a month. In every single case, the words appear almost instantly on the screen. There is no need to wait for the words to appear and thus stop the processing.
If in fact you have a lag time it is most likely related to one or more of the following (it's hard to troubleshoot since you do not ever post your system specifications): 1. Underpowered hardware 2. Improperly configured hardware 3. Improperly configured software (do you have a permanent paging file?) 4. Too many programs running taking up too many processes 5. A poor performing soundcard or microphone. Although you think I am hawking my microphones and USB pod's, you can not overlook the possibility that a soundcard that is introducing unwanted electronic noise is causing the speech recognition software to struggle to decode words from the electronic interference. A poor microphone introduces too much background noise that also chokes the software. There is a very simple test to determine if your soundcard is noisy. Follow the directions on our web site: http://www.emicrophones.com/docDetails.asp?DocumentID=30
>From the little information we have gotten from you I would almost guarantee the problem is number five. Of course because you think I only respond here to sell microphones, it's unlikely you will take any of the good advice given. Ever the optimist, I still took the time to respond professionally in the hope that you actually may be serious about utilizing speech recognition software.
-- Martin Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc. The best microphones for Speech Recognition See us at: http://www.eMicrophones.com/index.asp Read, "Key Steps to High Speech Recognition Accuracy" at: http://www.emicrophones.com/docDetails.asp?DocumentID=38
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 | | From: | Rick | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:58:07 GMT |
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 | On 17 Dec 2004 15:27:49 -0800, martin@emicrophones.com wrote:
>Doe, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >The question is whether there is a user interface method to >interrupt NaturallySpeaking while it is decoding continuous speech. >That won't be a voice command for the simple reason that you cannot >issue a voice command in the middle of continuous speech recognition. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >We not only use Dragon NaturallySpeaking daily, but setup and configure >several systems a month. In every single case, the words appear almost >instantly on the screen. There is no need to wait for the words to >appear and thus stop the processing. > >If in fact you have a lag time it is most likely related to one or more >of the following (it's hard to troubleshoot since you do not ever post >your system specifications): >1. Underpowered hardware >2. Improperly configured hardware >3. Improperly configured software (do you have a permanent paging >file?) >4. Too many programs running taking up too many processes >5. A poor performing soundcard or microphone. Although you think I am >hawking my microphones and USB pod's, you can not overlook the >possibility that a soundcard that is introducing unwanted electronic >noise is causing the speech recognition software to struggle to decode >words from the electronic interference. A poor microphone introduces >too much background noise that also chokes the software. There is a >very simple test to determine if your soundcard is noisy. Follow the >directions on our web site: >http://www.emicrophones.com/docDetails.asp?DocumentID=30 > >>From the little information we have gotten from you I would almost >guarantee the problem is number five. Of course because you think I >only respond here to sell microphones, it's unlikely you will take any >of the good advice given. Ever the optimist, I still took the time to >respond professionally in the hope that you actually may be serious >about utilizing speech recognition software.
Pardon me for jumping on this thread- It is hard for me to believe this is anything but a hardware problem, IRQ conflict, or busted RAM (memory) stick. Even my clunky old PII 260 with 256 k RAM does not spend a lot of time deciphering continuous speech. I do not sell anything :) First thing I would do is download spybot search and destroy (freeware, and best IMHO) or Adaware (OK to and also free) and see if your system is full of spyware that slows it down. If you do not have an antivirus program, try one of the free ones on the web, symantec used to have one, and clean your system. Then open up the hardware manager and look for those yellow exclamation points next to any hardware devices. They signify that something is not working correctly.
If everything looks OK open up sound recorder (assuming you are using some form of Windows) and record yourself speaking into the microphone. Listen to the recording. Does it sound OK? If everything is installed correctly and running OK, it is probably a program conflict. If we knew what operating system you are using, we could be of more help. If you know what I am talking about, open task manager and see what is running. Let us know and I will try to help.
Rick
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 | | From: | John Doe | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | Sat, 18 Dec 2004 00:14:29 GMT |
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 | X-No-Archive troll, probably nym-shifting.
Rick wrote:
>Path: newssvr30.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm05.news.prodigy.com!newsdst02.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newsswing.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!easynews-local!news.easynews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail >From: Rick >Newsgroups: comp.speech.users >Subject: Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? >Message-ID: <1sr6s01a4ekn53rr9bj7unh2dn4v5pvp7h@4ax.com> >References: <1103069114.600685.170310@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1103079404.033219.215710@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1103128868.760463.122560@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1103326069.188243.215610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> >X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.553 >X-No-Archive: yes >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Lines: 62 >X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com >Organization: EasyNews, UseNet made Easy! >X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. >Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:58:07 GMT >Xref: newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com comp.speech.users:11938 > >On 17 Dec 2004 15:27:49 -0800, martin@emicrophones.com wrote: > >>Doe, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>The question is whether there is a user interface method to >>interrupt NaturallySpeaking while it is decoding continuous speech. >>That won't be a voice command for the simple reason that you cannot >>issue a voice command in the middle of continuous speech recognition. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>We not only use Dragon NaturallySpeaking daily, but setup and configure >>several systems a month. In every single case, the words appear almost >>instantly on the screen. There is no need to wait for the words to >>appear and thus stop the processing. >> >>If in fact you have a lag time it is most likely related to one or more >>of the following (it's hard to troubleshoot since you do not ever post >>your system specifications): >>1. Underpowered hardware >>2. Improperly configured hardware >>3. Improperly configured software (do you have a permanent paging >>file?) >>4. Too many programs running taking up too many processes >>5. A poor performing soundcard or microphone. Although you think I am >>hawking my microphones and USB pod's, you can not overlook the >>possibility that a soundcard that is introducing unwanted electronic >>noise is causing the speech recognition software to struggle to decode >>words from the electronic interference. A poor microphone introduces >>too much background noise that also chokes the software. There is a >>very simple test to determine if your soundcard is noisy. Follow the >>directions on our web site: >>http://www.emicrophones.com/docDetails.asp?DocumentID=30 >> >>>From the little information we have gotten from you I would almost >>guarantee the problem is number five. Of course because you think I >>only respond here to sell microphones, it's unlikely you will take any >>of the good advice given. Ever the optimist, I still took the time to >>respond professionally in the hope that you actually may be serious >>about utilizing speech recognition software. > >Pardon me for jumping on this thread- It is hard for me to believe >this is anything but a hardware problem, IRQ conflict, or busted RAM >(memory) stick. Even my clunky old PII 260 with 256 k RAM does not >spend a lot of time deciphering continuous speech. I do not sell >anything :) First thing I would do is download spybot search and >destroy (freeware, and best IMHO) or Adaware (OK to and also free) and >see if your system is full of spyware that slows it down. If you do >not have an antivirus program, try one of the free ones on the web, >symantec used to have one, and clean your system. Then open up the >hardware manager and look for those yellow exclamation points next to >any hardware devices. They signify that something is not working >correctly. > >If everything looks OK open up sound recorder (assuming you are using >some form of Windows) and record yourself speaking into the >microphone. Listen to the recording. Does it sound OK? >If everything is installed correctly and running OK, it is probably a >program conflict. If we knew what operating system you are using, we >could be of more help. If you know what I am talking about, open task >manager and see what is running. Let us know and I will try to help. > >Rick > >
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 | | From: | Rick | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:21:16 GMT |
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 | Now I see Mr. "John Doe"; you're just an idiot.
HTH
Rick
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 00:14:29 GMT, John Doe wrote:
>X-No-Archive troll, probably nym-shifting. > >Rick wrote: > >>Path: newssvr30.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm05.news.prodigy.com!newsdst02.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newsswing.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!easynews-local!news.easynews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail >>From: Rick >>Newsgroups: comp.speech.users >>Subject: Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? >>Message-ID: <1sr6s01a4ekn53rr9bj7unh2dn4v5pvp7h@4ax.com> >>References: <1103069114.600685.170310@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1103079404.033219.215710@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1103128868.760463.122560@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1103326069.188243.215610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> >>X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.553 >>X-No-Archive: yes >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Lines: 62 >>X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com >>Organization: EasyNews, UseNet made Easy! >>X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. >>Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:58:07 GMT >>Xref: newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com comp.speech.users:11938 >> >>On 17 Dec 2004 15:27:49 -0800, martin@emicrophones.com wrote: >> >>>Doe, >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>The question is whether there is a user interface method to >>>interrupt NaturallySpeaking while it is decoding continuous speech. >>>That won't be a voice command for the simple reason that you cannot >>>issue a voice command in the middle of continuous speech recognition. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>We not only use Dragon NaturallySpeaking daily, but setup and configure >>>several systems a month. In every single case, the words appear almost >>>instantly on the screen. There is no need to wait for the words to >>>appear and thus stop the processing. >>> >>>If in fact you have a lag time it is most likely related to one or more >>>of the following (it's hard to troubleshoot since you do not ever post >>>your system specifications): >>>1. Underpowered hardware >>>2. Improperly configured hardware >>>3. Improperly configured software (do you have a permanent paging >>>file?) >>>4. Too many programs running taking up too many processes >>>5. A poor performing soundcard or microphone. Although you think I am >>>hawking my microphones and USB pod's, you can not overlook the >>>possibility that a soundcard that is introducing unwanted electronic >>>noise is causing the speech recognition software to struggle to decode >>>words from the electronic interference. A poor microphone introduces >>>too much background noise that also chokes the software. There is a >>>very simple test to determine if your soundcard is noisy. Follow the >>>directions on our web site: >>>http://www.emicrophones.com/docDetails.asp?DocumentID=30 >>> >>>>From the little information we have gotten from you I would almost >>>guarantee the problem is number five. Of course because you think I >>>only respond here to sell microphones, it's unlikely you will take any >>>of the good advice given. Ever the optimist, I still took the time to >>>respond professionally in the hope that you actually may be serious >>>about utilizing speech recognition software. >> >>Pardon me for jumping on this thread- It is hard for me to believe >>this is anything but a hardware problem, IRQ conflict, or busted RAM >>(memory) stick. Even my clunky old PII 260 with 256 k RAM does not >>spend a lot of time deciphering continuous speech. I do not sell >>anything :) First thing I would do is download spybot search and >>destroy (freeware, and best IMHO) or Adaware (OK to and also free) and >>see if your system is full of spyware that slows it down. If you do >>not have an antivirus program, try one of the free ones on the web, >>symantec used to have one, and clean your system. Then open up the >>hardware manager and look for those yellow exclamation points next to >>any hardware devices. They signify that something is not working >>correctly. >> >>If everything looks OK open up sound recorder (assuming you are using >>some form of Windows) and record yourself speaking into the >>microphone. Listen to the recording. Does it sound OK? >>If everything is installed correctly and running OK, it is probably a >>program conflict. If we knew what operating system you are using, we >>could be of more help. If you know what I am talking about, open task >>manager and see what is running. Let us know and I will try to help. >> >>Rick >> >>
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 | | From: | James Salsman | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:09:13 GMT |
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 | John Doe wrote:
> X-No-Archive troll, probably nym-shifting.
Oh, good grief! Look, Martin and Rick have been reasonable.
Post your system specs, hardware manifest, and whether you have actually taken Rick's advice, please.
Sincerely, James -- www.readsay.com - maker of the ReadSay PROnounce English literacy system 400 MHz PDA included: $499 -- http://www.readsay.com/PROnounce.html
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 | | From: | John Doe | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:04:04 GMT |
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 | My system specs have nothing to do with my question.
Troll.
James Salsman wrote:
>Path: newssvr11.news.prodigy.com!newscon03.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wns13feed!worldnet.att.net!attbi_s03.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail >From: James Salsman >User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 >X-Accept-Language: en-us, en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Newsgroups: comp.speech.users >Subject: Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? >References: <1103069114.600685.170310@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1103079404.033219.215710@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1103128868.760463.122560@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1103326069.188243.215610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1sr6s01a4ekn53rr9bj7unh2dn4v5pvp7h@4ax.com> >In-Reply-To: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Lines: 14 >Message-ID: >NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.100.105 >X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net >X-Trace: attbi_s03 1103443753 24.6.100.105 (Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:09:13 GMT) >NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:09:13 GMT >Organization: Comcast Online >Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:09:13 GMT >Xref: newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com comp.speech.users:11944 > >John Doe wrote: > >> X-No-Archive troll, probably nym-shifting. > >Oh, good grief! Look, Martin and Rick have been reasonable. > >Post your system specs, hardware manifest, and whether you have >actually taken Rick's advice, please. > >Sincerely, >James >-- >www.readsay.com - maker of the ReadSay PROnounce English literacy system > 400 MHz PDA included: $499 -- http://www.readsay.com/PROnounce.html > >
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 | | From: | John Doe | | Subject: | Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? | | Date: | Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:54:21 GMT |
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 | Troll spammer.
martin@emicrophones.com wrote:
>Path: newssvr30.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm05.news.prodigy.com!newsdst02.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newsswing.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!news.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail >From: martin@emicrophones.com >Newsgroups: comp.speech.users >Subject: Re: NS7: is there a way to interrupt processing? >Date: 17 Dec 2004 15:27:49 -0800 >Organization: http://groups.google.com >Lines: 45 >Message-ID: <1103326069.188243.215610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> >References: <1103030764.873667.249670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1103042077.260621.38400@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1103069114.600685.170310@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1103079404.033219.215710@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1103128868.760463.122560@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> >NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.45.98.145 >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >X-Trace: posting.google.com 1103326074 28778 127.0.0.1 (17 Dec 2004 23:27:54 GMT) >X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com >NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:27:54 +0000 (UTC) >In-Reply-To: >User-Agent: G2/0.2 >Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com >Injection-Info: z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.45.98.145; posting-account=U-Isdw0AAADr0OK1Ts3hoOkRr2rdiLMK >Xref: newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com comp.speech.users:11936 > >Doe, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >The question is whether there is a user interface method to >interrupt NaturallySpeaking while it is decoding continuous speech. >That won't be a voice command for the simple reason that you cannot >issue a voice command in the middle of continuous speech recognition. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >We not only use Dragon NaturallySpeaking daily, but setup and configure >several systems a month. In every single case, the words appear almost >instantly on the screen. There is no need to wait for the words to >appear and thus stop the processing. > >If in fact you have a lag time it is most likely related to one or more >of the following (it's hard to troubleshoot since you do not ever post >your system specifications): >1. Underpowered hardware >2. Improperly configured hardware >3. Improperly configured software (do you have a permanent paging >file?) >4. Too many programs running taking up too many processes >5. A poor performing soundcard or microphone. Although you think I am >hawking my microphones and USB pod's, you can not overlook the >possibility that a soundcard that is introducing unwanted electronic >noise is causing the speech recognition software to struggle to decode >words from the electronic interference. A poor microphone introduces >too much background noise that also chokes the software. There is a >very simple test to determine if your soundcard is noisy. Follow the >directions on our web site: >http://www.emicrophones.com/docDetails.asp?DocumentID=30 > >>From the little information we have gotten from you I would almost >guarantee the problem is number five. Of course because you think I >only respond here to sell microphones, it's unlikely you will take any >of the good advice given. Ever the optimist, I still took the time to >respond professionally in the hope that you actually may be serious >about utilizing speech recognition software. > >-- >Martin Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc. >The best microphones for Speech Recognition >See us at: http://www.eMicrophones.com/index.asp >Read, "Key Steps to High Speech Recognition Accuracy" at: >http://www.emicrophones.com/docDetails.asp?DocumentID=38 > > >
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