 | | From: | dave_nul at hotmail.com | | Subject: | NaturallySpeaking 8 causes Excel 97 to choke on dgnexcel.dll | | Date: | 8 Jan 2005 21:22:31 -0800 |
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 | I just installed NaturallySpeaking 8, and now when I launch Excel 97,
Excel tries to load dgnexcel.dll as an Excel workbook, which of course
causes Excel to complain. I found the file at
\NaturallySpeaking8\Program\dgnexcel.dll. Anyone know how I can
disable that?
ScanSoft's Knowledge Base has nothing, and they have no Community for
NaturallySpeaking!
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| | From: | martin at emicrophones.com | | Subject: | Re: NaturallySpeaking 8 causes Excel 97 to choke on dgnexcel.dll | | Date: | 9 Jan 2005 06:09:01 -0800 |
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| dave_nul@hotmail.com wrote:
> I just installed NaturallySpeaking 8, and now when I launch Excel 97,
> Excel tries to load dgnexcel.dll as an Excel workbook,
The method Dragon NaturallySpeaking uses to interface to Microsoft
office products is to install .DLL runtimes. For Microsoft Word this is
a template named dgnword.dll.
You have a 2005 version of Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Your
eight-year-old version of Microsoft Excel has gone through many changes
in those eight years and it's understandable why the new program does
not work with the older program. There are two solutions, upgrade to
Office 2003, or disable the DLL runtime.
--
Martin Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc.
The best microphones for Speech Recognition
See us at: http://www.eMicrophones.com/index.asp
Read, "Key Steps to High Speech Recognition Accuracy" at:
http://www.emicrophones.com/docDetails.asp?DocumentID=38
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| | From: | dave_nul at hotmail.com | | Subject: | Re: [OT - actually comment for Scansoft] Re: NaturallySpeaking 8 causes Excel 97 to choke on dgnexcel.dll | | Date: | 10 Jan 2005 06:49:44 -0800 |
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| The closest thing I found to a ScanSoft-sanctioned public forum is a
site within the old LHSL domain:
http://support.lhsl.com/databases/dragon/webdisc.nsf/. Good luck
finding that using links on ScanSoft's site!
Here's one related comment: "Scansoft claims that they no longer
support Word97. The only fix I know is to upgrade to a newer version of
Word. Ain't that swell?" In my case, I'd simply like to turn off
NaturallySpeaking within Excel. DragonPad works fine for me.
Here's another comment from that thread: "People have had trouble with
using v.8 with Win98 and Word97. Scansoft has a history of being tone
deaf to customers. You just get used to it and become part of the DNS
community." Lovely.
Does anyone know how to disable that DLL (dgnexcel.dll) so it isn't
used by Excel?
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| | From: | AttaBoy | | Subject: | Re: [OT - actually comment for Scansoft] Re: NaturallySpeaking 8 causes Excel 97 to choke on dgnexcel.dll | | Date: | Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:06:38 GMT |
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| On 10 Jan 2005 06:49:44 -0800, dave_nul@hotmail.com wrote:
>The closest thing I found to a ScanSoft-sanctioned public forum is a
>site within the old LHSL domain:
>http://support.lhsl.com/databases/dragon/webdisc.nsf/. Good luck
>finding that using links on ScanSoft's site!
>
>Here's one related comment: "Scansoft claims that they no longer
>support Word97. The only fix I know is to upgrade to a newer version of
>Word. Ain't that swell?" In my case, I'd simply like to turn off
>NaturallySpeaking within Excel. DragonPad works fine for me.
>
>Here's another comment from that thread: "People have had trouble with
>using v.8 with Win98 and Word97. Scansoft has a history of being tone
>deaf to customers. You just get used to it and become part of the DNS
>community." Lovely.
>
>Does anyone know how to disable that DLL (dgnexcel.dll) so it isn't
>used by Excel?
Have you tried to rename it? I usually rename it to xxx.ddl t0
disable a dynamic link library that is causing trouble.
HTH
Rick
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| | From: | Georg E. | | Subject: | Re: NaturallySpeaking 8 causes Excel 97 to choke on dgnexcel.dll | | Date: | Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:35:04 +0100 |
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| Hi,
It is possible that Excel 97 does not work with version 8. Dragon Naturally
Speaking 8 does not officially support MS Office 97 any longer.
Please also refer to
http://forum.knowbrainer.com/read.php?f=2&i=14504&t=12852#reply_14504.
--
Georg Eisenmann
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Professionelle Spracherkennung gibt es bei www.linguaconsult.de
wrote in message
news:1105248151.690061.210800@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> I just installed NaturallySpeaking 8, and now when I launch Excel 97,
> Excel tries to load dgnexcel.dll as an Excel workbook, which of course
> causes Excel to complain. I found the file at
> \NaturallySpeaking8\Program\dgnexcel.dll. Anyone know how I can
> disable that?
>
> ScanSoft's Knowledge Base has nothing, and they have no Community for
> NaturallySpeaking!
>
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| | From: | dave_nul at hotmail.com | | Subject: | Re: NaturallySpeaking 8 causes Excel 97 to choke on dgnexcel.dll | | Date: | 9 Jan 2005 07:41:20 -0800 |
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| Sounds like, for now, I'll need to disable the DLL runtime. Anyone
know how? I searched through the projects running in Excel (using the
VBA macro editor), and found dgnexcel.dll, but could find no way to
delete it. Actually, it's probably too late at that point. Is this
something that can be turned off within NaturallySpeaking, before even
trying to run Excel? I vaguely recall in older versions there being a
place to disable Word and Excel support, but can't find anything like
that now.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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| | From: | James Salsman | | Subject: | Re: NaturallySpeaking 8 causes Excel 97 to choke on dgnexcel.dll | | Date: | Sun, 09 Jan 2005 02:53:03 -0800 |
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| dave_nul@hotmail.com wrote:
> I just installed NaturallySpeaking 8, and now when I launch Excel 97,
> Excel tries to load dgnexcel.dll as an Excel workbook, which of course
> causes Excel to complain. I found the file at
> \NaturallySpeaking8\Program\dgnexcel.dll. Anyone know how I can
> disable that?
"As a workbook" -- what do you mean by that?
Have you tried renaming the file while running Excel?
> ScanSoft's Knowledge Base has nothing, and they have no Community for
> NaturallySpeaking!
Perhaps they assume that this Usenet forum is sufficient.
Sincerely,
James
--
www.readsay.com - maker of the ReadSay PROnounce English literacy system
400 MHz PDA included: $499 -- http://www.readsay.com/PROnounce.html
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| | From: | dave_nul at hotmail.com | | Subject: | Re: [OT - actually comment for Scansoft] Re: NaturallySpeaking 8 causes Excel 97 to choke on dgnexcel.dll | | Date: | 10 Jan 2005 11:34:53 -0800 |
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| That's a possibility. I just figure there's got to be a more standard
way of disabling a misbehaving DLL... I don't know enough about Excel
and VBA as to how to do that.
There should be a way in NS to disable Word and Excel support, but I
can't find anything like that in the installation process (after
choosing 'Custom' install) nor in the Options after installation. I
could swear NS 5 had some checkbox in Options to turn off Word and
Excel support, but perhaps I'm mistaking that with "Natural Commands".
The manual has nothing on it. :(
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| | From: | dave_nul at hotmail.com | | Subject: | Re: NaturallySpeaking 8 causes Excel 97 to choke on dgnexcel.dll | | Date: | 9 Jan 2005 07:48:21 -0800 |
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| Sounds like, for now, I'll need to disable the DLL runtime. Anyone
know how? I searched through the projects running in Excel (using the
VBA macro editor), and found dgnexcel.dll, but could find no way to
delete it. Actually, it's probably too late at that point. Is this
something that can be turned off within NaturallySpeaking, before even
trying to run Excel? I vaguely recall in older versions there being a
place to disable Word and Excel support, but can't find anything like
that now.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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| | From: | dave_nul at hotmail.com | | Subject: | Re: NaturallySpeaking 8 causes Excel 97 to choke on dgnexcel.dll | | Date: | 9 Jan 2005 07:36:27 -0800 |
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| http://forum.knowbrainer.com/list.php?f=2. Neat resource. Thanks!
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| | From: | dave_nul at hotmail.com | | Subject: | Re: NaturallySpeaking 8 causes Excel 97 to choke on dgnexcel.dll | | Date: | 9 Jan 2005 07:30:45 -0800 |
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| Excel appears to try to load dgnexcel.dll as if it were an Excel
workbook, i.e., dgnexcel.xls, because it complains that it's not in the
right format, and could be a corrupted Excel file.
I doubt I could rename dgnexcel.dll while running Excel, as it is
likely locked by Excel. But I could and will try renaming it before
running Excel. One thing I don't understand is how NaturallySpeaking
is forcing Excel to see dgnexcel.dll. I searched the entire partition
and Registry, and \NaturallySpeaking8\Program\dgnexcel.dll was the only
instance found.
Anyone have ideas as to how NaturallySpeaking is forcing Excel to see
dgnexcel.dll? I could then try disabling that. (I have no need to use
NaturallySpeaking within Excel. DragonPad is fine for me.)
As for the lack of their online Community for NaturallySpeaking, it
just seems odd to me that they'd have other products, but not one of
their major ones.
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| | From: | Richard Owlett | | Subject: | [OT - actually comment for Scansoft] Re: NaturallySpeaking 8 causes | | Date: | Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:25:03 -0600 |
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| dave_nul@hotmail.com wrote:
> [snip]
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> As for the lack of their online Community for NaturallySpeaking, it
> just seems odd to me that they'd have other products, but not one of
> their major ones.
>
Regularly seeing comments such as this,
I hesitate to to spend money on their ( possibly ) poorly supported product.
Permission to forward this to appropriate parties at Scansoft is given.
"Reply to" is valid, if heavily filtered ;)
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