Are most people aware of the C1 reconfigurable computer
and it's Possibitities RE: the Apple ][?
Could I posssibly get a show of hands of any1 who has interest?(sort of
a VERY informal poll)
I myself like the possiblity of a Super GS with inbult ide
devices,20mhz '816,105mhz 8 bit bus (clockable to 133mhz)inbuit
superdrive,vga,usb,ps/2 AND the ability to play movies.
P.S. Has anyone heard of the recent advances of amstrad cpc's and
c64/supercpu's doing fullscreen movies?
Cheers for now
Barana.

From:	Jim
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	18 Jan 2005 05:00:13 -0800

Yvan wrote:
> "barana" wrote in message
> news:1106034948.013444.227360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > Are most people aware of the C1 reconfigurable computer
> > and it's Possibitities RE: the Apple ][?
> > Could I posssibly get a show of hands of any1 who has
interest?(sort of
> > a VERY informal poll)
> > I myself like the possiblity of a Super GS with inbult ide
> > devices,20mhz '816,105mhz 8 bit bus (clockable to 133mhz)inbuit
> > superdrive,vga,usb,ps/2 AND the ability to play movies.
> > P.S. Has anyone heard of the recent advances of amstrad cpc's and
> > c64/supercpu's doing fullscreen movies?
> > Cheers for now
> > Barana.
> >
> My hands are on. The C1 has a 65816 built in. So I even see and wait
for the
> IIgs possibility. A GS core is planned and I think this will be the
moment
> when I buy such a board.

All I can Say to that is...Hell Yeah!

From:	Roger Johnstone
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	20 Jan 2005 09:51:35 GMT

In vector wrote:
>
> I thought the limit on RAM was a problem with GS/OS (8 MB max) not
> handling as much RAM as the IIgs is capable of addressing (16 MB)?
> Wouldn't a >8 MB IIgs require a GS/OS 7, so to speak?

No. Bernie ][ the Rescue, and I think one of the other IIGS emulators,
supports up to 14MB of RAM which works fine with System 6. Apparently
they patch the memory manager so it will look past 8MB for more RAM. The
8MB limit on a real IIGS is imposed by other hardware in the computer.
The CPU and OS can address up to 16MB, but some of that is taken by ROM
and the 128KB of slow RAM.

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From:	BluPhoenyx
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:45:06 GMT

Roger Johnstone wrote:
> In vector wrote:
>
>>I thought the limit on RAM was a problem with GS/OS (8 MB max) not
>>handling as much RAM as the IIgs is capable of addressing (16 MB)?
>>Wouldn't a >8 MB IIgs require a GS/OS 7, so to speak?
>
>
> No. Bernie ][ the Rescue, and I think one of the other IIGS emulators,
> supports up to 14MB of RAM which works fine with System 6. Apparently
> they patch the memory manager so it will look past 8MB for more RAM. The
> 8MB limit on a real IIGS is imposed by other hardware in the computer.
> The CPU and OS can address up to 16MB, but some of that is taken by ROM
> and the 128KB of slow RAM.
>

The other would be KEGS in it's more recent versions.

Cheers,
Mike T.

From:	Doctor Roberts
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	19 Jan 2005 14:14:37 -0800

I put an mp3 file online based on this. It's named 2ci.mp3
and can be found in this folder:
http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/Music/Personal.MP3.Creations/

From:	Quantum Cat
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:18:06 -0500 (EST)

Dorktor Roberts now? Don't you have enough "personalities" haunting
usenet without inventing more?

Or is this just a side effect of your medication, both legal and
illegal? ;)

> I put an mp3 file online based on this. It's named 2ci.mp3
> and can be found in this folder:
> http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/Music/Personal.MP3.Creations/

Heh... that sounded like it was based on your shrunken, dried out brain
rattling around in that enormous cavern called your skull. It would
certainly take someone as delusional as you to think this could possibly
be based on the C1 computer. ;)

"/Personal.MP3.Creations/"? Sure, Dorktor Robber... that Iggy Pop song
was one of your "personal creations". ;)

Odd that you still think that stealing other folks efforts is a creative
act on your part. ;)

Keep taking your meds!

--
Quantum Cat

From:	Yvan
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:49:23 +0100

"barana" wrote in message
news:1106034948.013444.227360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Are most people aware of the C1 reconfigurable computer
> and it's Possibitities RE: the Apple ][?
> Could I posssibly get a show of hands of any1 who has interest?(sort of
> a VERY informal poll)
> I myself like the possiblity of a Super GS with inbult ide
> devices,20mhz '816,105mhz 8 bit bus (clockable to 133mhz)inbuit
> superdrive,vga,usb,ps/2 AND the ability to play movies.
> P.S. Has anyone heard of the recent advances of amstrad cpc's and
> c64/supercpu's doing fullscreen movies?
> Cheers for now
> Barana.
>
My hands are on. The C1 has a 65816 built in. So I even see and wait for the
IIgs possibility. A GS core is planned and I think this will be the moment
when I buy such a board.

From:	brad
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:21:46 -0600

> My hands are on. The C1 has a 65816 built in. So I even see and wait for
the
> IIgs possibility. A GS core is planned and I think this will be the moment
> when I buy such a board.
>
>

ditto..i'd prob get one too....now to set such a setup up..so that you could
run terry olsen's
boybott metal bbs on it with his hardware port fix...and/or that old c64 bbs
on it..then the amiga bbs setup i have laying around here..hmm...now if
there were a way to pre-configure such a setup to 'boot' up from a www
page or menu the little beastie..with a pre-arranged power up sequence for
whatever little 80's bbs pkg with core you wanted to.to bring up remotely
by say a user of your www site /bbs or whatever.....that would be kinda
over the top...but it would still be only 1 user at a time no matter how
many
80's bbs pkgs you managed to put on the c1 setup....

oh well..i can't even get up terry's mods yet..sigh...
dreaming....

brad
former sysop lost-gonzo.com

p.s. what i really want is someone to write drivers so the lance gs
eithernet
card could be used directly with say the metal/fv bbs setup..but i gather
that
is beyond difficult to do...but it would be nice to just skip past some of
this stuff
and put the hardware back inside the gs....oh well...just spinning yarns
here...

From:	Ziggy
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:35:30 GMT

barana wrote:
> Are most people aware of the C1 reconfigurable computer
> and it's Possibitities RE: the Apple ][?
> Could I posssibly get a show of hands of any1 who has interest?(sort of
> a VERY informal poll)
> I myself like the possiblity of a Super GS with inbult ide
> devices,20mhz '816,105mhz 8 bit bus (clockable to 133mhz)inbuit
> superdrive,vga,usb,ps/2 AND the ability to play movies.
> P.S. Has anyone heard of the recent advances of amstrad cpc's and
> c64/supercpu's doing fullscreen movies?
> Cheers for now
> Barana.
>

Most any of the 8bit machines could be emulated with this. Its got
enough horsepower for any i can think of off the top of my head..

Now when you get into the 16bits and above.. it wont fly.

Its a bit expensive, but the C=one is a really good platform..

As an aside, this is the same team ( Jeri mostly ) that created the
C64-DTV, which is in reality a pretty much complete C64 shoved into a
single FPGA, complete with BASIC, not just a 'game emulator'.... She
even allowed for connecting keyboards, and diskdrives.. if you want to
dig into the case and do some soldering..

From:	Scott Alfter
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:51:08 GMT

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>Most any of the 8bit machines could be emulated with this. Its got
>enough horsepower for any i can think of off the top of my head..
>
>Now when you get into the 16bits and above.. it wont fly.

Um...the 65816 (which the C-One uses, according to its webpage) _is_ a
16-bit processor.

_/_
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From:	Ziggy
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:27:29 GMT

Scott Alfter wrote:
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> In article ,
> Ziggy wrote:
>
>>Most any of the 8bit machines could be emulated with this. Its got
>>enough horsepower for any i can think of off the top of my head..
>>
>>Now when you get into the 16bits and above.. it wont fly.
>
>
> Um...the 65816 (which the C-One uses, according to its webpage) _is_ a
> 16-bit processor.
>
> _/_
> / v \ Scott Alfter (remove the obvious to send mail)
> (IIGS( http://alfter.us/ Top-posting!
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But a cpu doesnt emulate an entire system.. That was more my meaning.

From:	RedskullDC
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:09:37 GMT

Hi Scott, et al.

"Scott Alfter" wrote in message
news:g2jHd.59802$F25.17790@okepread07...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> In article ,
> Ziggy wrote:
>>Most any of the 8bit machines could be emulated with this. Its got
>>enough horsepower for any i can think of off the top of my head..
>>
>>Now when you get into the 16bits and above.. it wont fly.
>
> Um...the 65816 (which the C-One uses, according to its webpage) _is_ a
> 16-bit processor.

Double Um..

The 65816 is only used to boot into the early start-up menu
that loads the various cores from the compact flash card.

Check out:
http://homepage.mac.com/blakespot/PhotoAlbum24.html

for some pics of a C-One in operation.

Cheers,
Red

From:	MagerValp
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	19 Jan 2005 15:31:56 +0100

>>>>> "R" == RedskullDC writes:

R> The 65816 is only used to boot into the early start-up menu that
R> loads the various cores from the compact flash card.

No, the early startup code runs on a RISC CPU (that features 6502 and
Z80 emulation) in the 1k30 FPGA. The 65816 is free for use in computer
cores.

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From:	Mark Frischknecht
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:55:37 -0500

>>
>>Um...the 65816 (which the C-One uses, according to its webpage) _is_ a
>>16-bit processor.
>
>
> Double Um..
>
> The 65816 is only used to boot into the early start-up menu
> that loads the various cores from the compact flash card.
Sorry but if you look here it explains alot about the processor card and
the fpga's

http://www.geocities.com/profdredd/commodoreone/cmdrone.html#how

[Begin Quote]
The two main chips carry out different tasks, depending on the needs of
the program. The technology used is called FPGA - field programmable
gate arrays. These chips can be programmed to do the tasks that the
chips of the C-64 or other computers have done. It's no emulation, but
it's a re-implementation of the chips that are no longer available since
many years.

The one thing that is not contained in the FPGAs is the main processor -
it would take too much space, resulting in too high cost. To maintain
flexibility, the CPU resides on a card that can be exchanged by the user
- as simple as plugging in a PCI card.
[End Quote]

From:	Terry Olsen
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:46:59 -0700

Is there a link? Never heard of this.

"barana" wrote in message
news:1106034948.013444.227360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Are most people aware of the C1 reconfigurable computer
> and it's Possibitities RE: the Apple ][?
> Could I posssibly get a show of hands of any1 who has interest?(sort of
> a VERY informal poll)
> I myself like the possiblity of a Super GS with inbult ide
> devices,20mhz '816,105mhz 8 bit bus (clockable to 133mhz)inbuit
> superdrive,vga,usb,ps/2 AND the ability to play movies.
> P.S. Has anyone heard of the recent advances of amstrad cpc's and
> c64/supercpu's doing fullscreen movies?
> Cheers for now
> Barana.
>

From:	Raymond Wiker
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:07:39 +0100

"Terry Olsen" writes:

> Is there a link? Never heard of this.

http://c64upgra.de/c-one/

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From:	Robert Bernardo
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:25:11 -0500

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Chris Baird wrote:

> *cough* Is Jeri's 'Intellectual Property Naziness' still in effect?

Well, that is an inconsiderate thing to say.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug

From:	MagerValp
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	18 Jan 2005 22:15:29 +0100

>>>>> "b" == barana writes:

b> Are most people aware of the C1 reconfigurable computer and it's
b> Possibitities RE: the Apple ][? Could I posssibly get a show of
b> hands of any1 who has interest?(sort of a VERY informal poll) I
b> myself like the possiblity of a Super GS [snip]

Yup, all it needs is someone with VHDL skills who can sit down and
make an Apple II core. If the A2 schematics are available you could
even do it with schematic capture... All the necessary info is
available on the C1 site.

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From:	Chris Baird
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:37:30 GMT

MM> http://members.iinet.net.au/~msmcdoug/pace/Nanoboard/nanoboard.html

> Cool. He should port it to the C1 board.

*cough* Is Jeri's 'Intellectual Property Naziness' still in effect?

My FPGA board of choice would be those at http://www.burched.biz/

--
Chris

From:	MagerValp
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	21 Jan 2005 14:46:42 +0100

>>>>> "CB" == Chris Baird writes:

CB> *cough* Is Jeri's 'Intellectual Property Naziness' still in
CB> effect?

Not quite sure what you're getting at, but her C64 core is not open
source, if that's what you mean. The C1 board itself is an open
architecture, and anyone can develop cores for it.

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From:	Rubywand
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:44:38 GMT

MagerValp writes ...
>
> >>>>> "b" == barana writes:
>
> b> Are most people aware of the C1 reconfigurable computer and it's
> b> Possibitities RE: the Apple ][? Could I posssibly get a show of
> b> hands of any1 who has interest?(sort of a VERY informal poll) I
> b> myself like the possiblity of a Super GS [snip]
>
> Yup, all it needs is someone with VHDL skills who can sit down and
> make an Apple II core. If the A2 schematics are available you could
> even do it with schematic capture... All the necessary info is
> available on the C1 site.
>
....

The board seems to have some nice features. Even so, the main barrier to
such an upgrade is the absence of a consensus 'vision' for the new IIgs.

For instance, would a 20MHz IIgs board with 8MB of RAM for around $200 be
satisfactory? It would be a nice acceleration upgrade; but, that's about it.

Probably, it makes sense to retain IIgs compatibility. That's a lot easier
to do now than it was a few years ago. But, to be worthwhile as an upgrade
path, the new platform should be speed upgradeable from 20MHz, support hundreds
of MB of RAM, offer modern sound and video, and include interfacing for modern
peripherals.

Rubywand

From:	vector
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:32:08 -0500

"Rubywand" wrote in message
news:41EE9CBF.B2498BF2@swbell.net...
> Probably, it makes sense to retain IIgs compatibility. That's a lot
> easier
> to do now than it was a few years ago. But, to be worthwhile as an upgrade
> path, the new platform should be speed upgradeable from 20MHz, support
> hundreds
> of MB of RAM, offer modern sound and video, and include interfacing for
> modern
> peripherals.

As an upgrade path, I'd think the convenience of using modern peripherals
would be enough bait. I'd love an ATX-formfactor IIgs motherboard that had
IDE and PC floppy controllers built-in, and used PC133 memory.

I thought the limit on RAM was a problem with GS/OS (8 MB max) not handling
as much RAM as the IIgs is capable of addressing (16 MB)? Wouldn't a >8 MB
IIgs require a GS/OS 7, so to speak?

And an actual 65816 can only be pushed so far, in terms of speed. To break
that barrier requires a different CPU. At what point do we slip away from a
modern realization of a physical IIgs and become the loathsome Amiga One, an
emulator running on Linux that is, by consensus alone, identified as an
Amiga?

Disclaimers aside, I'm all for the idea of a redesigned IIgs with the
wildest specs possible. I just hope GS/OS 7 supports the .NET framework, or
Java.

From:	Moll
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:40:10 GMT

vector wrote:
> As an upgrade path, I'd think the convenience of using modern peripherals
> would be enough bait. I'd love an ATX-formfactor IIgs motherboard that had
> IDE and PC floppy controllers built-in, and used PC133 memory.
>
> I thought the limit on RAM was a problem with GS/OS (8 MB max) not handling
> as much RAM as the IIgs is capable of addressing (16 MB)? Wouldn't a >8 MB
> IIgs require a GS/OS 7, so to speak?
>
> And an actual 65816 can only be pushed so far, in terms of speed. To break
> that barrier requires a different CPU. At what point do we slip away from a
> modern realization of a physical IIgs and become the loathsome Amiga One, an
> emulator running on Linux that is, by consensus alone, identified as an
> Amiga?
>
> Disclaimers aside, I'm all for the idea of a redesigned IIgs with the
> wildest specs possible. I just hope GS/OS 7 supports the .NET framework, or
> Java.

I'd like to see a 32-bit 6502-class CPU, fully compatible with the '816,
and able to run the stock GS/OS 6.01, then improved to run in higher
resolutions, to multitask, etc. But it would have to feel like an '816
to a programmer, too. The ideas I'd have for GS/OS 7 are just these:

* Multitask 8 and 16-bit apps.
* Run //e software in a window or fullscreen.
* Support more devices.

Moll.

From:	brad
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:34:25 -0600

"Moll" wrote in
message news:K5DHd.8648$Vx2.457@trndny01...
> vector wrote:
> * Multitask 8 and 16-bit apps.
> * Run //e software in a window or fullscreen.
> * Support more devices.
>
> Moll.

ring...ring...ring....mr. steve jobs...i'm at the counter with an order...

if you could per chance simply take this little c1 project and shrink it
down..and call it say

"miniapple2gs" ..it also would be nice if you could bring it down to the
size of your

mini I pod unit...and i think a 99 buck price tag is fair...toss in that new
device

the virtual keyboard (infrared laser device to put the red laser lite
keyboard on a flat surface
to use like a regular keyboard..it tells which keys you push by shadows on
keyboard...
..ie...think star trek keyboard)

i'm sure the technology is not as tough to put in as the ipod and/or the
minimac...

anyway ...if you plan it right you could set it up..so it could run all
those 8bit machines
(apple iigs, atari, c64, etc etc)... platforms...i mean someone is already
making the
joystick device that plugs into the t.v. to play all those neato 80's games
like packman and
defender..is this not logically the next step....

now as to you making a working tri-corder...(see star trek the original
series) well thats for
another day...

(boy this cold medicine i'm taking is good stuff....pretty colors....trips
lightly away from
keyboard)

brad
former sysop lost-gonzo.com

From:	MagerValp
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	20 Jan 2005 10:47:35 +0100

>>>>> "R" == Rubywand writes:

R> The board seems to have some nice features. Even so, the main
R> barrier to such an upgrade is the absence of a consensus 'vision'
R> for the new IIgs.

Screw visionaries, what we need are people who actually produce stuff :)

R> For instance, would a 20MHz IIgs board with 8MB of RAM for around
R> $200 be satisfactory? It would be a nice acceleration upgrade; but,
R> that's about it.

Don't forget that you can use standard IDE devices for storage, a nice
TFT monitor, standard RS-232 ports, and ethernet for networking. Oh,
and reset the machine and boot into C64 or CPC mode.

R> Probably, it makes sense to retain IIgs compatibility. That's a lot
R> easier to do now than it was a few years ago. But, to be worthwhile
R> as an upgrade path, the new platform should be speed upgradeable
R> from 20MHz, support hundreds of MB of RAM, offer modern sound and
R> video, and include interfacing for modern peripherals.

And, besides a complete lack of software, what would it offer that a
modern PC or Mac doesn't?

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From:	Mark McDougall
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:29:33 +1100

MagerValp wrote:

> Yup, all it needs is someone with VHDL skills who can sit down and
> make an Apple II core. If the A2 schematics are available you could
> even do it with schematic capture... All the necessary info is
> available on the C1 site.

Regards,
Mark

From:	Ziggy
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:28:21 GMT

Mark McDougall wrote:
> MagerValp wrote:
>
>> Yup, all it needs is someone with VHDL skills who can sit down and
>> make an Apple II core. If the A2 schematics are available you could
>> even do it with schematic capture... All the necessary info is
>> available on the C1 site.
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Mark

Im sure the xilinx based boards from xess.com + the free webpack design
software would also do the job, and be cheaper and smaller.. They have
them upwards of 1M gates in a really small form factor, but still
offering a PS/2 port, VGA, DB25 and DIP compliant pin headers..

Personally though, Im getting the 400k gate 'trainer' board from
digiliant. Will have to shoot for a apple II core at some point after im
done playing with the mips core from opencores.

From:	MagerValp
Subject:	Re: The new C1
Date:	19 Jan 2005 15:34:33 +0100

>>>>> "MM" == Mark McDougall writes:

MV> Yup, all it needs is someone with VHDL skills who can sit down and
MV> make an Apple II core. If the A2 schematics are available you
MV> could even do it with schematic capture... All the necessary info
MV> is available on the C1 site.

MM> http://members.iinet.net.au/~msmcdoug/pace/Nanoboard/nanoboard.html

Cool. He should port it to the C1 board.

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