 | | From: | Sue Bilstein | | Subject: | Washing-machines with mechanical controls | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:28:08 +1300 |
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 | Our Kelvinator 380, purchased reconditioned in 1998, shows some signs
of reaching the end of its natural life - namely body rust and the odd
graunching sound when it spins.
I'm starting to search for a replacement, but all the modern machines
that I have come across so far have electronic controls. Are there
any with mechanical controls, like the classic F&P top-loading
machines? Or does anyone know of an outfit that has the original
machines, reconditioned? I suspect they're just too old by now.
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| | From: | Jay | | Subject: | Re: Washing-machines with mechanical controls | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:38:14 +1300 |
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"Sue Bilstein" wrote in message
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> Our Kelvinator 380, purchased reconditioned in 1998, shows some signs
> of reaching the end of its natural life - namely body rust and the odd
> graunching sound when it spins.
>
> I'm starting to search for a replacement, but all the modern machines
> that I have come across so far have electronic controls. Are there
> any with mechanical controls, like the classic F&P top-loading
> machines? Or does anyone know of an outfit that has the original
> machines, reconditioned? I suspect they're just too old by now.
Sorry I can't help but out of interest.... why not the electronic version?
Less moving parts = less chance of breaking down. No?
Jay
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| | From: | Sue Bilstein | | Subject: | Re: Washing-machines with mechanical controls | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:49:57 +1300 |
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| On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:38:14 +1300, "Jay" wrote:
>"Sue Bilstein" wrote in message
>news:24q8v0pfiu03thhfmtp3nqlv5kke237mu2@4ax.com...
>> Our Kelvinator 380, purchased reconditioned in 1998, shows some signs
>> of reaching the end of its natural life - namely body rust and the odd
>> graunching sound when it spins.
>>
>> I'm starting to search for a replacement, but all the modern machines
>> that I have come across so far have electronic controls. Are there
>> any with mechanical controls, like the classic F&P top-loading
>> machines? Or does anyone know of an outfit that has the original
>> machines, reconditioned? I suspect they're just too old by now.
>
>Sorry I can't help but out of interest.... why not the electronic version?
>Less moving parts = less chance of breaking down. No?
Water + electronics = fzztsputsput.
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| | From: | Jay | | Subject: | Re: Washing-machines with mechanical controls | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:51:10 +1300 |
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"Sue Bilstein" wrote in message
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> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:38:14 +1300, "Jay" wrote:
>>"Sue Bilstein" wrote in message
>>news:24q8v0pfiu03thhfmtp3nqlv5kke237mu2@4ax.com...
>>> Our Kelvinator 380, purchased reconditioned in 1998, shows some signs
>>> of reaching the end of its natural life - namely body rust and the odd
>>> graunching sound when it spins.
>>>
>>> I'm starting to search for a replacement, but all the modern machines
>>> that I have come across so far have electronic controls. Are there
>>> any with mechanical controls, like the classic F&P top-loading
>>> machines? Or does anyone know of an outfit that has the original
>>> machines, reconditioned? I suspect they're just too old by now.
>>
>>Sorry I can't help but out of interest.... why not the electronic version?
>>Less moving parts = less chance of breaking down. No?
>
> Water + electronics = fzztsputsput.
I think you'll find that the electronics are well insulated from the water
:)
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| | From: | Sue Bilstein | | Subject: | Re: Washing-machines with mechanical controls | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:01:58 +1300 |
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| On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:51:10 +1300, "Jay" wrote:
>"Sue Bilstein" wrote in message
>news:12s8v0paig77f4adfor89vc397447i7gdc@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:38:14 +1300, "Jay" wrote:
>>>"Sue Bilstein" wrote in message
>>>news:24q8v0pfiu03thhfmtp3nqlv5kke237mu2@4ax.com...
>>>> Our Kelvinator 380, purchased reconditioned in 1998, shows some signs
>>>> of reaching the end of its natural life - namely body rust and the odd
>>>> graunching sound when it spins.
>>>>
>>>> I'm starting to search for a replacement, but all the modern machines
>>>> that I have come across so far have electronic controls. Are there
>>>> any with mechanical controls, like the classic F&P top-loading
>>>> machines? Or does anyone know of an outfit that has the original
>>>> machines, reconditioned? I suspect they're just too old by now.
>>>
>>>Sorry I can't help but out of interest.... why not the electronic version?
>>>Less moving parts = less chance of breaking down. No?
>>
>> Water + electronics = fzztsputsput.
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>I think you'll find that the electronics are well insulated from the water
>:)
>
I know of at least two cases where a Gentle Annie did the fzztsputsput
for this reason. Plus one Aussie machine with electronic controls,
can't remember the brand.
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| | From: | Jay | | Subject: | Re: Washing-machines with mechanical controls | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:06:24 +1300 |
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"Sue Bilstein" wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>>Sorry I can't help but out of interest.... why not the electronic
>>>>version?
>>>>Less moving parts = less chance of breaking down. No?
>>>
>>> Water + electronics = fzztsputsput.
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>>I think you'll find that the electronics are well insulated from the water
>>:)
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> I know of at least two cases where a Gentle Annie did the fzztsputsput
> for this reason. Plus one Aussie machine with electronic controls,
> can't remember the brand.
As opposed to how many mechanical breakdowns?
I can't provide proof in favour of either but I'd be very surprised if the
electronic had a worse track record than that of their mechanical
counter-parts
Jay
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| | From: | Alastair McAllister | | Subject: | Re: Washing-machines with mechanical controls | | Date: | 24 Jan 2005 16:52:13 +1300 |
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| In <24q8v0pfiu03thhfmtp3nqlv5kke237mu2@4ax.com> Sue Bilstein wrote:
> I'm starting to search for a replacement, but all the modern machines
> that I have come across so far have electronic controls. Are there
> any with mechanical controls, like the classic F&P top-loading
> machines? Or does anyone know of an outfit that has the original
> machines, reconditioned? I suspect they're just too old by now.
I'm pretty sure a lot of the cheaper Simpson models still have a rotary
dial type of arrangement. I rented one for a few months last year, and
had no complaints.
--
Regards, Alastair.
Wellington, New Zealand
My real email address is alasta@b1gf00t.conn (change the obvious).
Any views expressed in this posting are personal and its content remains
the property of Alastair. Alastair accepts no responsibility for any
misinformation resulting from this posting.
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| | From: | Sue Bilstein | | Subject: | Re: Washing-machines with mechanical controls | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:06:23 +1300 |
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| On 24 Jan 2005 16:52:13 +1300, Alastair McAllister
wrote:
>In <24q8v0pfiu03thhfmtp3nqlv5kke237mu2@4ax.com> Sue Bilstein wrote:
>
>> I'm starting to search for a replacement, but all the modern machines
>> that I have come across so far have electronic controls. Are there
>> any with mechanical controls, like the classic F&P top-loading
>> machines? Or does anyone know of an outfit that has the original
>> machines, reconditioned? I suspect they're just too old by now.
>
>I'm pretty sure a lot of the cheaper Simpson models still have a rotary
>dial type of arrangement. I rented one for a few months last year, and
>had no complaints.
I'll look out for them, thanks Alastair.
As we are on tank water, we use the rotary control a lot when washing,
and I don't know if electronic-control machines would support this.
First I wash 3 or 4 washloads on one tub of soapy water; then rinse
each load, with the first rinse full-tub and the second rinse
half-tub.
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| | From: | Axle | | Subject: | Re: Washing-machines with mechanical controls | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:53:47 +1300 |
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| Sue Bilstein wrote:
> On 24 Jan 2005 16:52:13 +1300, Alastair McAllister
> wrote:
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>>In <24q8v0pfiu03thhfmtp3nqlv5kke237mu2@4ax.com> Sue Bilstein wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm starting to search for a replacement, but all the modern machines
>>>that I have come across so far have electronic controls. Are there
>>>any with mechanical controls, like the classic F&P top-loading
>>>machines? Or does anyone know of an outfit that has the original
>>>machines, reconditioned? I suspect they're just too old by now.
>>
>>I'm pretty sure a lot of the cheaper Simpson models still have a rotary
>>dial type of arrangement. I rented one for a few months last year, and
>>had no complaints.
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> I'll look out for them, thanks Alastair.
>
> As we are on tank water, we use the rotary control a lot when washing,
> and I don't know if electronic-control machines would support this.
> First I wash 3 or 4 washloads on one tub of soapy water; then rinse
> each load, with the first rinse full-tub and the second rinse
> half-tub.
>
I think you could do that with an ECS machine.
It has an advance button to step through its cycle, and a wash and hold
setting and water level buttons.
Ours has been exceptionally reliable
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| | From: | Redbaiter | | Subject: | Re: Washing-machines with mechanical controls | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:18:34 +1300 |
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| Sue Bilstein says
> On 24 Jan 2005 16:52:13 +1300, Alastair McAllister
> wrote:
> >In <24q8v0pfiu03thhfmtp3nqlv5kke237mu2@4ax.com> Sue Bilstein wrote:
> >
> >> I'm starting to search for a replacement, but all the modern machines
> >> that I have come across so far have electronic controls. Are there
> >> any with mechanical controls, like the classic F&P top-loading
> >> machines? Or does anyone know of an outfit that has the original
> >> machines, reconditioned? I suspect they're just too old by now.
> >
> >I'm pretty sure a lot of the cheaper Simpson models still have a rotary
> >dial type of arrangement. I rented one for a few months last year, and
> >had no complaints.
>
> I'll look out for them, thanks Alastair.
>
> As we are on tank water, we use the rotary control a lot when washing,
> and I don't know if electronic-control machines would support this.
> First I wash 3 or 4 washloads on one tub of soapy water; then rinse
> each load, with the first rinse full-tub and the second rinse
> half-tub.
>
>
If you're on tank water, why do you prefer top loaders? Front
loaders use a lot less.
--
Redbaiter
In the leftist's lexicon, the lowest of the low
"At the core of modern liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding,
ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a
philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke
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| | From: | Roger Dewhurst | | Subject: | Re: Washing-machines with mechanical controls | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:32:55 +1300 |
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"Redbaiter" wrote in message
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> Sue Bilstein says
> > On 24 Jan 2005 16:52:13 +1300, Alastair McAllister
> > wrote:
> > >In <24q8v0pfiu03thhfmtp3nqlv5kke237mu2@4ax.com> Sue Bilstein wrote:
> > >
> >
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> If you're on tank water, why do you prefer top loaders? Front
> loaders use a lot less.
>
Commercial machines are generally front loaders, for a very good reason.
R
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| | From: | Axle | | Subject: | Re: Washing-machines with mechanical controls | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:43:06 +1300 |
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| Roger Dewhurst wrote:
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> Commercial machines are generally front loaders, for a very good reason.
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> R
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The most common laundrette machine in the world is a top loading Maytag
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| | From: | Roger Dewhurst | | Subject: | Re: Washing-machines with mechanical controls | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:46:25 +1300 |
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"Axle" wrote in message
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> Roger Dewhurst wrote:
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> > Commercial machines are generally front loaders, for a very good reason.
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> > R
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> The most common laundrette machine in the world is a top loading Maytag
That was not the impression that I got when I was investigating the
feasibility of setting up a laundromat. Continuous rotation about a
horizontal axis appears to me fundamentally more reliable that oscillation
about a vertical axis.
R
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| | From: | Axle | | Subject: | Re: Washing-machines with mechanical controls | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:26:53 +1300 |
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| Roger Dewhurst wrote:
> "Axle" wrote in message
> news:35jcmrF4npnr2U1@individual.net...
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>>Roger Dewhurst wrote:
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>>>Commercial machines are generally front loaders, for a very good reason.
>>>
>>>R
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>>The most common laundrette machine in the world is a top loading Maytag
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> That was not the impression that I got when I was investigating the
> feasibility of setting up a laundromat. Continuous rotation about a
> horizontal axis appears to me fundamentally more reliable that oscillation
> about a vertical axis.
>
> R
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The front loaders are more efficient for commercial on premises use, but
the top loaders are the number one sellers for laundromats.
http://www.commercial.maytag.com/cmths/home/indexMain.jsp
My observation from doing a lot of laundry in a world wide travelling
job for 15 years is that the top loading Maytags seemed to outnumber
everything else 10:1.
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| | From: | Ashley | | Subject: | Re: Washing-machines with mechanical controls | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:22:11 +1300 |
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"Alastair McAllister" wrote in message
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> In <24q8v0pfiu03thhfmtp3nqlv5kke237mu2@4ax.com> Sue Bilstein wrote:
>
>> I'm starting to search for a replacement, but all the modern machines
>> that I have come across so far have electronic controls. Are there
>> any with mechanical controls, like the classic F&P top-loading
>> machines? Or does anyone know of an outfit that has the original
>> machines, reconditioned? I suspect they're just too old by now.
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> I'm pretty sure a lot of the cheaper Simpson models still have a rotary
> dial type of arrangement. I rented one for a few months last year, and
> had no complaints.
I have an Admiral 5100 bought 10 years ago, with a mechanical dial and
push-button control. Apart from the drum sometimes going off balance while
spinning a heavy load (which isn't actually too much of a hassle, cos the
machine just stops, then starts again when you redistribute the load) it
hasn't given me any trouble at all. And in that time it's shifted house 3
times.
Of course, now that I've written this, it's bound to die any time now ...
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| | From: | lin at darkmere.gen.nz.invalid | | Subject: | Re: Washing-machines with mechanical controls | | Date: | 24 Jan 2005 06:37:17 GMT |
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| Sue Bilstein wrote:
> Our Kelvinator 380, purchased reconditioned in 1998, shows some signs
> of reaching the end of its natural life - namely body rust and the odd
> graunching sound when it spins.
> I'm starting to search for a replacement, but all the modern machines
> that I have come across so far have electronic controls. Are there
> any with mechanical controls, like the classic F&P top-loading
> machines? Or does anyone know of an outfit that has the original
> machines, reconditioned? I suspect they're just too old by now.
I bought one last year from Remade Appliances in Onehunga.
They are quite good with this sort of thing. Apparently the bowl
doesn't rust or have gunk clinging to them because the older machines
have an enamel bowl.
Bought an old dryer (reconditioned) from them in 1999 for $100 and it
is still going. Stove in kitchen is also from Remade.
Last one (F&P 380 or 400) lasted at least 10 years but wasn't bought
from there. Probably from somewhere like Remade Appliances but IIRC
they were in New North Rd.
regards
lin
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