 | | From: | jackeroo | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:43:25 GMT |
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 | Yeah next will be all the news groups and you might as well go back to the
media?
wrote in message
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> Attention ......
>
> There is a vote underway on a new newgroup proposal that will change
> the face of Usenet if it passes. This new group would be a moderated
> version of a popular unmoderated group. The current group has a single
> troll that is easily killfiled. This troll always posts under the same
> handle and email address, so it takes literally less than a minute to
> plonk him. Three of the newsgroup regulars are using this as an excuse
> to launch the new moderated group to take the place of the current
> group. If this new group passes, you can expect more proposals like
> this to pop up all over Usenet. Before long, all newsgroups will be
> censored and moderated at the whim of a few individuals.
>
> Say NO to Usenet censorship. Please VOTE NO against this group.
> Info on how to vote:
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> http://www.screenplays.us.tt
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| | From: | Seppo Renfors | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:23:53 GMT |
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> wrote in message
> news:1103265713.261556.39310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > Attention ......
> >
> > There is a vote underway on a new newgroup proposal that will change
> > the face of Usenet if it passes. This new group would be a moderated
> > version of a popular unmoderated group. The current group has a single
> > troll that is easily killfiled. This troll always posts under the same
> > handle and email address, so it takes literally less than a minute to
> > plonk him. Three of the newsgroup regulars are using this as an excuse
> > to launch the new moderated group to take the place of the current
> > group. If this new group passes, you can expect more proposals like
> > this to pop up all over Usenet. Before long, all newsgroups will be
> > censored and moderated at the whim of a few individuals.
This sure sounds like a TROLL all in itself. How the hell can the
creation of a NEW group (not re-badging an existing group, which there
is no intention of doing) affect the existing groups? It can't!
There already exists many groups that have a moderated on it tandem
with the open group. The observable effect is that the moderated
groups mostly tend to DIE! It is far from the death of Usenet as
predicted!
> > Say NO to Usenet censorship. Please VOTE NO against this group.
> > Info on how to vote:
> >
> > http://www.screenplays.us.tt
Hmmmm..... quite frankly the author of this post may well be that
aforementioned TROLL in the groups, fearing a sudden death to its
trolling!
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| | From: | Henrietta | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | Fri, 17 Dec 2004 22:35:02 +1100 |
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| Seppo Renfors wrote:
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> Hmmmm..... quite frankly the author of this post may well be that
> aforementioned TROLL in the groups, fearing a sudden death to its
> trolling!
Since "the author of this post" is you, and only you, that is quite
revealing.
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| | From: | Gary L. Burnore | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | Fri, 17 Dec 2004 22:07:00 -0500 |
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| On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 22:35:02 +1100, Henrietta
wrote:
>Seppo Renfors wrote:
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>> Hmmmm..... quite frankly the author of this post may well be that
>> aforementioned TROLL in the groups, fearing a sudden death to its
>> trolling!
>
>Since "the author of this post" is you, and only you, that is quite
>revealing.
Careful, She'll call you a stalker and call the police on you!
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| | From: | jackeroo | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | Sat, 18 Dec 2004 00:59:45 GMT |
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"Henrietta" wrote in message
news:1612989.SohL2UVb2e@musicale...
> Seppo Renfors wrote:
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> >
> >
> > Hmmmm..... quite frankly the author of this post may well be that
> > aforementioned TROLL in the groups, fearing a sudden death to its
> > trolling!
>
> Since "the author of this post" is you, and only you, that is quite
> revealing.
Well Henrietta certainly ID's you as the conservative , our Jews are nice
dont talk about them group? Or the , you can only talk about the things I
approve of in the manner I approve of group?
With those attitudes you dont need newsgroups, read the papers and they will
always say what you want?
No Henrietta" as mentioned in the post, single email address, I dont
cghange my name, so if a group is so upset about myposts they can be
stopped? There is no reason to wipe out te group?
.. The current group has a single
> troll that is easily killfiled. This troll always posts under the same
> handle and email address, so it takes literally less than a minute to
> plonk him.
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| | From: | Ned Latham | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | 19 Dec 2004 15:12:18 +1050 |
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| "jackeroo" wrote in <5iLwd.76673$K7.63422@news-server.bigpond.net.au>:
A confession that he is the troll this thread's about.
Nothing relevant to act-b.
Piss off, troll.
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| | From: | Seppo Renfors | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | Sat, 18 Dec 2004 00:45:08 GMT |
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Henrietta wrote:
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News groups polluted by the above forger of material restored!!
> Seppo Renfors wrote:
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> > Hmmmm..... quite frankly the author of this post may well be that
> > aforementioned TROLL in the groups, fearing a sudden death to its
> > trolling!
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> Since "the author of this post" is you, and only you, that is quite
> revealing.
Ah, yes forgery is "wonderful" isn't it - you can generate most
anything with that, can't you. Only it doesn't work for STUPID forgers
even then - considering that the "play on words" you rely on, means
that it now applies to YOU...... TROLL.... or should that be
"TROLLOP"?!?!
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| | From: | Henrietta | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | Sat, 18 Dec 2004 12:03:03 +1100 |
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| Seppo Renfors wrote:
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>> Henrietta wrote:
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> News groups polluted by the above forger of material restored!!
What did I forge?
>>> Seppo Renfors wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmmmm..... quite frankly the author of this post may well be that
>>> aforementioned TROLL in the groups, fearing a sudden death to its
>>> trolling!
>>
>> Since "the author of this post" is you, and only you, that is quite
>> revealing.
>
> Ah, yes forgery is "wonderful" isn't it - you can generate most
> anything with that, can't you. Only it doesn't work for STUPID forgers
> even then - considering that the "play on words" you rely on, means
> that it now applies to YOU...... TROLL.... or should that be
> "TROLLOP"?!?!
You are quite mad. That explains the village idiot reputation you have.
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| | From: | jackeroo | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | Sat, 18 Dec 2004 00:53:16 GMT |
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"Seppo Renfors" wrote in message
news:41C36A89.C25317F7@not.com.au...
>
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> > wrote in message
> > news:1103265713.261556.39310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > > Attention ......
> > >
> > > There is a vote underway on a new newgroup proposal that will change
> > > the face of Usenet if it passes. This new group would be a moderated
> > > version of a popular unmoderated group. The current group has a single
> > > troll that is easily killfiled. This troll always posts under the same
> > > handle and email address, so it takes literally less than a minute to
> > > plonk him. Three of the newsgroup regulars are using this as an excuse
> > > to launch the new moderated group to take the place of the current
> > > group. If this new group passes, you can expect more proposals like
> > > this to pop up all over Usenet. Before long, all newsgroups will be
> > > censored and moderated at the whim of a few individuals.
>
> This sure sounds like a TROLL all in itself. How the hell can the
> creation of a NEW group (not re-badging an existing group, which there
> is no intention of doing) affect the existing groups? It can't!
>
> There already exists many groups that have a moderated on it tandem
> with the open group. The observable effect is that the moderated
> groups mostly tend to DIE! It is far from the death of Usenet as
> predicted!
The point is dont take a chance that some powerful group, and you agree
there might be one not that keen on newsgroups at all, that would not care
if newsgroups were completely killed off? Rupert and media, Turner and
Hollwood?
>
> > > Say NO to Usenet censorship. Please VOTE NO against this group.
> > > Info on how to vote:
> > >
> > > http://www.screenplays.us.tt
>
> Hmmmm..... quite frankly the author of this post may well be that
> aforementioned TROLL in the groups, fearing a sudden death to its
> trolling!
>
>
>
>
> --
> SIR - Philosopher unauthorised
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| | From: | Ned Latham | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | 19 Dec 2004 15:18:40 +1050 |
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| "jackeroo" wrote in <0cLwd.76665$K7.39343@news-server.bigpond.net.au>:
Some paranoid idea that maybe creating a moderated newsgroup is
Murdoch's way of destroying Usenet. Nothing relevant to act-b.
(Maybe he should grab his bucket and spade, go down to North Shore,
and destroy the Sydney Harbour Brisge by building a sand castle next
to it.)
Piss off, troll.
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| | From: | Mark Addinall | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:58:25 GMT |
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"jackeroo" wrote in message
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> Yeah next will be all the news groups and you might as well go back to the
> media?
>
>
> wrote in message
> news:1103265713.261556.39310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> Attention ......
>>
>> There is a vote underway on a new newgroup proposal that will change
>> the face of Usenet if it passes. This new group would be a moderated
>> version of a popular unmoderated group. The current group has a single
>> troll that is easily killfiled. This troll always posts under the same
>> handle and email address, so it takes literally less than a minute to
>> plonk him. Three of the newsgroup regulars are using this as an excuse
>> to launch the new moderated group to take the place of the current
>> group. If this new group passes, you can expect more proposals like
>> this to pop up all over Usenet. Before long, all newsgroups will be
>> censored and moderated at the whim of a few individuals.
Sounds like noddy and Co.
Hire Che, if he is still about.
Mark (true-blue) Addinall.
>>
>> Say NO to Usenet censorship. Please VOTE NO against this group.
>> Info on how to vote:
>>
>> http://www.screenplays.us.tt
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| | From: | Ned Latham | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | 19 Dec 2004 14:07:43 +1050 |
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| Muck Addinall, the last surviving specimen of Homo Defectus, wrote
in :
Another feeble expression of his obsession. Nothing relevant to act-b.
Piss off, troll.
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| | From: | Gary L. Burnore | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:21:53 -0500 |
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| On 19 Dec 2004 14:07:43 +1050, ned@arthur.valhalla.oz (Ned Latham)
wrote:
>Muck Addinall, the last surviving specimen of Homo Defectus, wrote
>in :
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>Another feeble expression of his obsession. Nothing relevant to act-b.
>
>Piss off, troll.
I find it quite humorous that you can't ignore said troll.
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| | From: | Ned Latham | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | 21 Dec 2004 10:54:46 +1050 |
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| Gary L. Burnore wrote in :
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > Muck Addinall, the last surviving specimen of Homo Defectus, wrote:
> >
> > Another feeble expression of his obsession. Nothing relevant to act-b.
> >
> > Piss off, troll.
>
> I find it quite humorous that you can't ignore said troll.
I'm archiving the group: the record would be false if I killfiled
anyone. Besides, I don't regard killfiling as a viable approach
anyway. There's always a chance that even the most intransigent
troll will post something on charter, and there's also the problem
that newcomers to a group don't know who to killfile.
(Irrelevant to alt.usenet.kooks, which I've trimmed out.)
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| | From: | Gary L. Burnore | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:52:02 -0500 |
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| On 21 Dec 2004 10:54:46 +1050, ned@arthur.valhalla.oz (Ned Latham)
wrote:
>Gary L. Burnore wrote in :
>> Ned Latham wrote:
>> > Muck Addinall, the last surviving specimen of Homo Defectus, wrote:
>> >
>> > Another feeble expression of his obsession. Nothing relevant to act-b.
>> >
>> > Piss off, troll.
>>
>> I find it quite humorous that you can't ignore said troll.
>
>I'm archiving the group: the record would be false if I killfiled
>anyone.
Hahahahahahahaha. Gonna compete with google?
> Besides, I don't regard killfiling as a viable approach
>anyway. There's always a chance that even the most intransigent
>troll will post something on charter, and there's also the problem
>that newcomers to a group don't know who to killfile.
What a loon.
>
>(Irrelevant to alt.usenet.kooks, which I've trimmed out.)
Restored, since you're a kook.
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| | From: | Ned Latham | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | 23 Dec 2004 10:48:06 +1050 |
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| Gary L. Burnore wrote in :
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > Gary L. Burnore wrote:
> > > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > > Muck Addinall, the last surviving specimen of Homo Defectus, wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Another feeble expression of his obsession. Nothing relevant to act-b.
> > > >
> > > > Piss off, troll.
> > >
> > > I find it quite humorous that you can't ignore said troll.
> >
> > I'm archiving the group: the record would be false if I killfiled
> > anyone.
>
> Hahahahahahahaha. Gonna compete with google?
Nope. It's just the one group. Since they miss a lot more posts than
I do, however, it's better than theirs for that group.
> > Besides, I don't regard killfiling as a viable approach
> > anyway. There's always a chance that even the most intransigent
> > troll will post something on charter, and there's also the problem
> > that newcomers to a group don't know who to killfile.
>
> What a loon.
Yair, yair. I note you can't say why.
> > (Irrelevant to alt.usenet.kooks, which I've trimmed out.)
>
> Restored, since you're a kook.
In your opinion. But your comment above indicates that you don't have
the wherewithall to judge.
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| | From: | Aratzio | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:08:22 -0800 |
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| On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:52:02 -0500, Gary L. Burnore
transparently proposed:
>On 21 Dec 2004 10:54:46 +1050, ned@arthur.valhalla.oz (Ned Latham)
>wrote:
>
>>Gary L. Burnore wrote in :
>>> Ned Latham wrote:
>>> > Muck Addinall, the last surviving specimen of Homo Defectus, wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Another feeble expression of his obsession. Nothing relevant to act-b.
>>> >
>>> > Piss off, troll.
>>>
>>> I find it quite humorous that you can't ignore said troll.
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>>I'm archiving the group: the record would be false if I killfiled
>>anyone.
>
>Hahahahahahahaha. Gonna compete with google?
Nah, just the Goofy.
>
>> Besides, I don't regard killfiling as a viable approach
>>anyway. There's always a chance that even the most intransigent
>>troll will post something on charter, and there's also the problem
>>that newcomers to a group don't know who to killfile.
>
>What a loon.
And a maroon.
>
>>
>>(Irrelevant to alt.usenet.kooks, which I've trimmed out.)
>
>Restored, since you're a kook.
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| | From: | Collector»NZ | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | Sat, 18 Dec 2004 10:28:21 +1300 |
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| Mark Addinall said the following on 17/12/2004 11:58 p.m.:
> "jackeroo" wrote in message
> news:hLywd.76067$K7.73176@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>>Yeah next will be all the news groups and you might as well go back to the
>>media?
>>
>>
>> wrote in message
>>news:1103265713.261556.39310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>Attention ......
>>>
>>>There is a vote underway on a new newgroup proposal that will change
>>>the face of Usenet if it passes. This new group would be a moderated
>>>version of a popular unmoderated group. The current group has a single
>>>troll that is easily killfiled. This troll always posts under the same
>>>handle and email address, so it takes literally less than a minute to
>>>plonk him. Three of the newsgroup regulars are using this as an excuse
>>>to launch the new moderated group to take the place of the current
>>>group. If this new group passes, you can expect more proposals like
>>>this to pop up all over Usenet. Before long, all newsgroups will be
>>>censored and moderated at the whim of a few individuals.
>
>
> Sounds like noddy and Co.
> Hire Che, if he is still about.
>
> Mark (true-blue) Addinall.
>
>
>>>Say NO to Usenet censorship. Please VOTE NO against this group.
>>>Info on how to vote:
>>>
>>>http://www.screenplays.us.tt
>>>
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>>
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I read two groups on the same subject one moderated and one open. They
are UK centric F1 racing groups the moderated group is clearly a more
intelligent and satisfying group than the unmoderated one which
degenerates into name calling, abuse and political off topic posts.
Go moderation its great so long as you get good moderators
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| | From: | Williamm Grosvenor | | Subject: | Re: NEWSGROUP CENSORSHIP - Vote NO to avoid it | | Date: | Sat, 18 Dec 2004 01:56:30 GMT |
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| Collector»NZ babbled in
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> Go moderation its great so long as you get good moderators
It seems unbiased moderators like me are best suited for the job, maggot!!
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