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 | | From: | jackeroo | | Subject: | Dont worry voters Johnny's going to bring all this home to you too? DEPUTY JOHN? | | Date: | Sat, 18 Dec 2004 03:31:59 GMT |
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"Dr. Jai Maharaj" wrote in message
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> 11-Year-Old Boy Questioned By Police Over 'Anti-American' Statements
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> http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A64726-2004Dec14?language=printer
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> When the two plainclothes Loudoun County sheriff's
> investigators showed up on her Leesburg doorstep, Pamela
> Albaugh got nervous. But when they told her why they were
> there, she got angry: A complaint had been filed alleging
> that her 11-year old son had made "anti-American and
> violent" statements in school.
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> "It was intimidating," she said. "I told them it's like a
> George Orwell novel, that it felt like they were the
> thought police. If someone would have asked me five years
> ago if this was something my government would do, I would
> have said never."
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> Posted by theearthisround on Wed Dec-15-04 11:46 PM
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> This reminds me of "I Led 3 Lives" about commies in the
> 50's.
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> Folks, they're after us!
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> :scared:
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> Posted by PartyPooper on Wed Dec-15-04 11:50 PM
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> This is rediculous of course. The Littleton CO police
> wouldn't
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> investigate their Columbine killers one year prior to the
> killing even though they had been tipped to the pair's
> neo Nazi web page advocating all sorts of violence. Here
> a kid pops off and he gets a visit by the police. This
> should have been handled at the school leve. The
> Principal gets a big fat F on this one.
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> Posted by autorank on Wed Dec-15-04 11:50 PM
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> Ahh, but in Dub and Ashcroft's " 'Merka"...
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> That kid of hers could grow up to be a real live terra-
> ist!:eyes:
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> B-)
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> Posted by GainesT1958 on Wed Dec-15-04 11:51 PM
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> thats crazy ... but we knew this day was coming...sadly
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> Posted by ccarter84 on Thu Dec-16-04 12:07 AM
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> The Orwell reference says it best...
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> They asked how she felt about 9/11 and the military. They
> asked whether she knows any foreigners who have trouble
> with American policy. They mentioned a German friend who
> had been staying with the family and asked whether the
> friend sympathized with the Taliban. They also inquired
> whether she might be teaching her children "anti-American
> values," she said.
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> Since when is it the governments responsibility to keep
> track of what values parents teach their children?
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> Oh wait I forgot who was in charge...
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> Posted by rockedthevoteinMA on Thu Dec-16-04 12:16 AM
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> 3 hours interrogating the parents?
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> I would have been under even more surveilance, because I
> would have said "NUNYA, get off my property now!"
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> They need to contact the ACLU.
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> Posted by Kali on Thu Dec-16-04 12:25 AM
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> "You got to watch what you say"
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> Ari Fleisher
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> Posted by MidwestTransplant on Thu Dec-16-04 12:30 AM
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> Here's what Ms. Albaugh should have said to the police
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> Do you have a warrant?
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> Is my son being charged with a crime?
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> No? Well, would you kindly get the hell off my property.
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> Posted by Sandpiper on Thu Dec-16-04 12:31 AM
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> This is horrid. What the hell has happened in just four
> years here?
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> Can you IMAGINE this happening during Clinton's
> Presidency? God, that time seems 20 years ago. We have
> been through so much since the unspeakable 2000
> "election." From the article:
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> His parents said the boy's words were those of a confused
> adolescent, whose views of the world are still being
> formed. They believe that authorities were called partly
> because he has a foreign-sounding name and accented
> English from years of living abroad. The family lived in
> India, Europe and Israel before moving to the United
> States in 2000. The couple have four children, with both
> U.S. and Israeli citizenship, enrolled in Loudoun
> schools.
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> Albaugh said that Yishai is not violent and that the
> school could have used the classroom incident as a
> "teachable moment," helping him learn to say what he was
> feeling in a less offensive manner.
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> Instead, Yishai said he has learned that it is not worth
> challenging authority. "At the end of the day, you lose,"
> he said, adding: "All of these freedoms and things
> they're supposed to uphold, they bash them."
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> (snip)
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> Georgetown law professor David Cole said Yishai's
> statement in class is protected by the Constitution.
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> "There's no indication from the student making an anti-
> American statement that violence to the school would
> follow," he said. "The FBI and government officials
> should be investigating real terrorists, not children who
> criticize the United States."
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> (snip)
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> Posted by Judi Lynn on Thu Dec-16-04 12:33 AM
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> holy hell
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> 1) Who the hell gets to define what "American" and "anti-
> American" values are?!?!?
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> 2) Granted, I don't know if there are extenuating
> circumstances, but all those questions asked to the
> parents could have and should have been asked by a school
> social worker...oh wait, we don't HAVE those in most
> schools. Not a priority. Yet another reason our schools
> are going to hell in a hand basket.
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> 3) This kind of crap just scares the hell out of me.
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> Posted by melnjones on Thu Dec-16-04 12:34 AM
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> It's more than just that
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> We're talking First Amendment issues here.
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> Regardless of whose definition of "anti-American" we're
> using, making such statements is NOT illegal or criminal.
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> Posted by Sandpiper on Thu Dec-16-04 12:38 AM
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> The Earth is flat
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> View image here:
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> http://www.picvault.info/images/20936_Ashcroft%20is%20Watching%20You.jpg
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> Posted by Swamp Rat on Thu Dec-16-04 12:36 AM
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> Nothing good ever comes from talking to...
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> a member of the blue class!
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> Sorry, I'm just bitter today after a friend got hit by a
> cop after getting stopped for doing 47 MPH in a 45 MPH
> zone. Of course, the "moran" cops here still stop people
> from doing 16 MPH in the 15.5 MPH zone downtown. Yes,
> some idiot created a speed limit here that ends in a
> half, and the blue thugs stop people for going 0.5 MPH
> over the limit.
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> Posted by vpigrad on Thu Dec-16-04 12:38 AM
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Look at the occupation of the kid's father: What is it about these
Israeli's love of moving companies?
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