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 | | From: | Ockerr | | Subject: | Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:11:08 +1300 |
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 | Hi guys I have a 16 plug Router that my 4 Home Computers are Plugged into
for my Home Networks. I have Just got BroadBand connected into the House and
was supplied with a D-LINK DSL-302G ADSL Modem. I Notice on the Rear of the
Modem is a Ethernet socket that the Modem can be connected into the Ethernet
port on my Computer. as I am not using it in this manner it is spare.
Question is, Can I run a Cable from that Ethernet outlet in the Modem to a
spare socket on my Network router and use it like a Adsl Router,
When its plugged in, would the other Home Computers see it as another
connection That they could connect to and use the Internet through it.
Cheers and Thanks
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| | From: | Robert Singers | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | 11 Jan 2005 15:53:51 +1300 |
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| Out from under a rock popped Ockerr and said
> Hi guys I have a 16 plug Router that my 4 Home Computers are Plugged
> into for my Home Networks.
Firstly they're PORTs. Plugs go into them. Secondly are you really sure
that it's a router, and not a switch or a hub? While I have seen routers
with 16 ethernet ports, they're not the sort of thing a neophyte generally
has, and 16 ports are more common to hubs.
> I have Just got BroadBand connected into
> the House and was supplied with a D-LINK DSL-302G ADSL Modem. I Notice
> on the Rear of the Modem is a Ethernet socket that the Modem can be
> connected into the Ethernet port on my Computer. as I am not using it
> in this manner it is spare.
>
> Question is, Can I run a Cable from that Ethernet outlet in the Modem
> to a spare socket on my Network router and use it like a Adsl Router,
If it is a router it is possible with a cross over cable. Exactly how you
configure it is impossible to advise on without knowing exactly what it is.
If it's a hub or a switch the answer is no. With a ADSL modem you will
need a router. Your best bet in that instance would be to buy a Wireless
router with four ethernet ports and a built in firewall.
> When its plugged in, would the other Home Computers see it as another
> connection That they could connect to and use the Internet through it.
If there's a router in the mix yes. Otherwise you'll need to use one of
the PCs to do the routing.
--
rob singers
pull finger to reply
Credo Elvem ipsum etiam vivere
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| | From: | PC | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:14:11 +1300 |
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"Ockerr" wrote in message
news:xQEEd.6734$mo2.462830@news.xtra.co.nz...
> Hi guys I have a 16 plug Router that my 4 Home Computers are Plugged into
> for my Home Networks. I have Just got BroadBand connected into the House
> and was supplied with a D-LINK DSL-302G ADSL Modem. I Notice on the Rear
> of the Modem is a Ethernet socket that the Modem can be connected into the
> Ethernet port on my Computer. as I am not using it in this manner it is
> spare.
>
> Question is, Can I run a Cable from that Ethernet outlet in the Modem to a
> spare socket on my Network router and use it like a Adsl Router,
>
> When its plugged in, would the other Home Computers see it as another
> connection That they could connect to and use the Internet through it.
>
> Cheers and Thanks
Yes, did one yesterday.
2 PC's, 4 port hub/switch, D-LINK DSL-302G ADSL Modem.
Just plugged together with straight thru LAN cables, ran the setup CD and
walla!
Note you may need to tinker with TCP/IP settings (set them to 'Obtain IP
address automatically & reboot)
Cheers
Paul.
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| | From: | Ross | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:55:42 +1300 |
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| On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:14:11 +1300, "PC" wrote:
>
>"Ockerr" wrote in message
>news:xQEEd.6734$mo2.462830@news.xtra.co.nz...
>> Hi guys I have a 16 plug Router that my 4 Home Computers are Plugged into
>> for my Home Networks. I have Just got BroadBand connected into the House
>> and was supplied with a D-LINK DSL-302G ADSL Modem. I Notice on the Rear
>> of the Modem is a Ethernet socket that the Modem can be connected into the
>> Ethernet port on my Computer. as I am not using it in this manner it is
>> spare.
>>
>> Question is, Can I run a Cable from that Ethernet outlet in the Modem to a
>> spare socket on my Network router and use it like a Adsl Router,
>>
>> When its plugged in, would the other Home Computers see it as another
>> connection That they could connect to and use the Internet through it.
>>
>> Cheers and Thanks
>
>Yes, did one yesterday.
>
>2 PC's, 4 port hub/switch, D-LINK DSL-302G ADSL Modem.
>Just plugged together with straight thru LAN cables, ran the setup CD and
>walla!
>
>Note you may need to tinker with TCP/IP settings (set them to 'Obtain IP
>address automatically & reboot)
>
>Cheers
>Paul.
Same here.
3 PC's connected to an old 10Mbit hub. The "modem" does the DHCP
thing. You don't need to run the setup CD unless you are forced into
using the USB connection. Note: Firefox can't change the admin
password. Use IE or Telnet instead.
The "modem" firmware appears to be a special Xtra version. At least
its not listed with the versions on Dlink's Australian website.
Nearly had one months use on a 1GB plan. Xtra didn't cut the speed
till we had done 4GB.
Cheers,
Ross
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| | From: | PeteB | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:20:35 +1300 |
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| Here's another question to everyone (so please excuse the top-posting).
I have a DSL-302G in the deal from Xtra and have discovered the site i've
been doing business with is now 'dead' and un-findable when using the Xtra
suppied adsl modem. Check this yourselves, those who have one goto:
www.shumatech.com
(Shumatech is a DRO self-build project for milling and lathe machines.....)
Anyway, if i use the old dailup i'm ok. If i borrow my friend's adsl
modem... which is not a DSL-302G from Xtra, configure it, it works fine to
the Shumatech site.
The indication is that these 'Xtra' modems are flashed to prevent voice use
through software to make cheap 'telephone calls' etc.... ie if your comp
originates an ICMP (internet command protocol, the lockout). One IT Guru has
advised i need to reflash my modem!
Xtra helpdesk have asked me to contact D-Link...
What do other owners discover and could this be a dishonest act on Xtras
part?
Pete
"Ross" wrote in message
news:o317u05svung26andvmhi78k2vh4b117js@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:14:11 +1300, "PC" wrote:
>
> >
> >"Ockerr" wrote in message
> >news:xQEEd.6734$mo2.462830@news.xtra.co.nz...
> >> Hi guys I have a 16 plug Router that my 4 Home Computers are Plugged
into
> >> for my Home Networks. I have Just got BroadBand connected into the
House
> >> and was supplied with a D-LINK DSL-302G ADSL Modem. I Notice on the
Rear
> >> of the Modem is a Ethernet socket that the Modem can be connected into
the
> >> Ethernet port on my Computer. as I am not using it in this manner it is
> >> spare.
> >>
> >> Question is, Can I run a Cable from that Ethernet outlet in the Modem
to a
> >> spare socket on my Network router and use it like a Adsl Router,
> >>
> >> When its plugged in, would the other Home Computers see it as another
> >> connection That they could connect to and use the Internet through it.
> >>
> >> Cheers and Thanks
> >
> >Yes, did one yesterday.
> >
> >2 PC's, 4 port hub/switch, D-LINK DSL-302G ADSL Modem.
> >Just plugged together with straight thru LAN cables, ran the setup CD and
> >walla!
> >
> >Note you may need to tinker with TCP/IP settings (set them to 'Obtain IP
> >address automatically & reboot)
> >
> >Cheers
> >Paul.
>
> Same here.
> 3 PC's connected to an old 10Mbit hub. The "modem" does the DHCP
> thing. You don't need to run the setup CD unless you are forced into
> using the USB connection. Note: Firefox can't change the admin
> password. Use IE or Telnet instead.
> The "modem" firmware appears to be a special Xtra version. At least
> its not listed with the versions on Dlink's Australian website.
> Nearly had one months use on a 1GB plan. Xtra didn't cut the speed
> till we had done 4GB.
>
> Cheers,
> Ross
>
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| | From: | Lawrence DčOliveiro | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:16:01 +1300 |
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| In article ,
"PeteB" wrote:
>I have a DSL-302G in the deal from Xtra and have discovered the site i've
>been doing business with is now 'dead' and un-findable when using the Xtra
>suppied adsl modem. Check this yourselves, those who have one goto:
>
>www.shumatech.com
Works for me, I have a DSL-500. I can't understand why different
hardware at the ADSL layer should have any impact at the TCP/IP layer.
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| | From: | PeteB | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:31:59 +1300 |
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"Lawrence DčOliveiro" wrote in message
news:ldo-B080AA.22160122012005@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> In article ,
> "PeteB" wrote:
>
> >I have a DSL-302G in the deal from Xtra and have discovered the site i've
> >been doing business with is now 'dead' and un-findable when using the
Xtra
> >suppied adsl modem. Check this yourselves, those who have one goto:
> >
> >www.shumatech.com
>
> Works for me, I have a DSL-500. I can't understand why different
> hardware at the ADSL layer should have any impact at the TCP/IP layer.
It appears the DSL-302Gs adsl modems supplied in the telecom deal have been
flashed to identify any ICMP message Echo (8) traffic typical of someone
running audio communication software as in headset coversations over the
internet.
I called Xtras help desk and the support tech could not access
www.shumatech.com on a Telecom Xtra supplied modem but he could with another
different modem.
I've had past business dealings with Scott Shuman and since he deals with
high volumes of email he wants to maintain quick answers with his real
paying customers.
To do this he is using ICMP 'payloads' to indentify those of us who fit this
category.
Interesting i have no problem on dailup, only with the Xtra adsl modem.
Also intersting that the Xtra tech suggested i contact D-Link (modem makers)
to see if THEY can fix things!!!!
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| | From: | Lawrence DčOliveiro | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:25:57 +1300 |
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| In article <2JrId.10491$mo2.792117@news.xtra.co.nz>,
"PeteB" wrote:
>It appears the DSL-302Gs adsl modems supplied in the telecom deal have been
>flashed to identify any ICMP message Echo (8) traffic typical of someone
>running audio communication software as in headset coversations over the
>internet.
>
>I've had past business dealings with Scott Shuman and since he deals with
>high volumes of email he wants to maintain quick answers with his real
>paying customers.
>To do this he is using ICMP 'payloads' to indentify those of us who fit this
>category.
I don't understand. You say the modem "identifies" ICMP echo messages?
What does it do with them after identifying them? And how is Shuman
using them to identify paying customers exactly?
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| | From: | PeteB | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:13:43 +1300 |
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"Lawrence DčOliveiro" wrote in message
news:ldo-94A11E.09255723012005@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> In article <2JrId.10491$mo2.792117@news.xtra.co.nz>,
> "PeteB" wrote:
>
> >It appears the DSL-302Gs adsl modems supplied in the telecom deal have
been
> >flashed to identify any ICMP message Echo (8) traffic typical of someone
> >running audio communication software as in headset coversations over the
> >internet.
> >
> >I've had past business dealings with Scott Shuman and since he deals with
> >high volumes of email he wants to maintain quick answers with his real
> >paying customers.
> >To do this he is using ICMP 'payloads' to indentify those of us who fit
this
> >category.
>
> I don't understand. You say the modem "identifies" ICMP echo messages?
> What does it do with them after identifying them? And how is Shuman
> using them to identify paying customers exactly?
The way i understand it is the Xtra supplied modem is simply blocking access
to my isp once it detects any ICMP 'payloaded' attempts at server contact.
My comp runs My Vital Agent and there is a log it records of failed server
calls blocked (by the modem).
Shuman has ( as far as i understand it) with my permission cookied my comp
to make me a valid customer. Even if i remove all History, Cookies, and Temp
Folder contents www.shumatech.com is still un reachable through the Xtra
supplied modem (indicating ther is a level of memory in the thing i guess) .
If i use dialup, i can go Shuma's site or a spare different adsl unit that
is fine too.
Logic tells me the Xtra modem is out to lunch.....
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| | From: | froggy | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:36:27 +1300 |
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| On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:13:43 +1300, PeteB wrote:
>
> "Lawrence DÂčOliveiro" wrote in message
> news:ldo-94A11E.09255723012005@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> In article <2JrId.10491$mo2.792117@news.xtra.co.nz>,
>> "PeteB" wrote:
>>
>> >It appears the DSL-302Gs adsl modems supplied in the telecom deal have
> been
>> >flashed to identify any ICMP message Echo (8) traffic typical of someone
>> >running audio communication software as in headset coversations over the
>> >internet.
>> >
>> >I've had past business dealings with Scott Shuman and since he deals with
>> >high volumes of email he wants to maintain quick answers with his real
>> >paying customers.
>> >To do this he is using ICMP 'payloads' to indentify those of us who fit
> this
>> >category.
>>
>> I don't understand. You say the modem "identifies" ICMP echo messages?
>> What does it do with them after identifying them? And how is Shuman
>> using them to identify paying customers exactly?
>
>
> The way i understand it is the Xtra supplied modem is simply blocking access
> to my isp once it detects any ICMP 'payloaded' attempts at server contact.
> My comp runs My Vital Agent and there is a log it records of failed server
> calls blocked (by the modem).
>
> Shuman has ( as far as i understand it) with my permission cookied my comp
> to make me a valid customer. Even if i remove all History, Cookies, and Temp
> Folder contents www.shumatech.com is still un reachable through the Xtra
> supplied modem (indicating ther is a level of memory in the thing i guess) .
> If i use dialup, i can go Shuma's site or a spare different adsl unit that
> is fine too.
>
> Logic tells me the Xtra modem is out to lunch.....
heh.. i didnt believe this till i tried it myself.... im behind a telecom
supplied dsl 302G modem.. i couldnt connect to.. or ping www.shumatech.com
nor could I connect to the webserver by ip ( 63.247.78.210 )
at least not until I used a proxy
hmm please tell me the evil empire isnt responsible for this.. and its
merely a ban on my ip range from shumatechs host
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| | From: | -=rjh=- | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:53:56 +1300 |
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| froggy wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:13:43 +1300, PeteB wrote:
>
>
>>"Lawrence DÂčOliveiro" wrote in message
>>news:ldo-94A11E.09255723012005@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>
>>>In article <2JrId.10491$mo2.792117@news.xtra.co.nz>,
>>> "PeteB" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>It appears the DSL-302Gs adsl modems supplied in the telecom deal have
>>
>>been
>>
>>>>flashed to identify any ICMP message Echo (8) traffic typical of someone
>>>>running audio communication software as in headset coversations over the
>>>>internet.
>>>>
>>>>I've had past business dealings with Scott Shuman and since he deals with
>>>>high volumes of email he wants to maintain quick answers with his real
>>>>paying customers.
>>>>To do this he is using ICMP 'payloads' to indentify those of us who fit
>>
>>this
>>
>>>>category.
>>>
>>>I don't understand. You say the modem "identifies" ICMP echo messages?
>>>What does it do with them after identifying them? And how is Shuman
>>>using them to identify paying customers exactly?
>>
>>
>>The way i understand it is the Xtra supplied modem is simply blocking access
>>to my isp once it detects any ICMP 'payloaded' attempts at server contact.
>>My comp runs My Vital Agent and there is a log it records of failed server
>>calls blocked (by the modem).
>>
>>Shuman has ( as far as i understand it) with my permission cookied my comp
>>to make me a valid customer. Even if i remove all History, Cookies, and Temp
>>Folder contents www.shumatech.com is still un reachable through the Xtra
>>supplied modem (indicating ther is a level of memory in the thing i guess) .
>>If i use dialup, i can go Shuma's site or a spare different adsl unit that
>>is fine too.
>>
>>Logic tells me the Xtra modem is out to lunch.....
>
>
> heh.. i didnt believe this till i tried it myself.... im behind a telecom
> supplied dsl 302G modem.. i couldnt connect to.. or ping www.shumatech.com
> nor could I connect to the webserver by ip ( 63.247.78.210 )
>
> at least not until I used a proxy
>
> hmm please tell me the evil empire isnt responsible for this.. and its
> merely a ban on my ip range from shumatechs host
Why not just upgrade your firmware with the latest release from D-Link's
website? That should resolve the problem shouldn't it?
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| | From: | PeteB | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:22:16 +1300 |
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"-=rjh=-" wrote in message news:41f2d95a$1_2@127.0.0.1...
> froggy wrote:
> > On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:13:43 +1300, PeteB wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"Lawrence DčOliveiro" wrote in
message
> >>news:ldo-94A11E.09255723012005@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> >>
> >>>In article <2JrId.10491$mo2.792117@news.xtra.co.nz>,
> >>> "PeteB" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>It appears the DSL-302Gs adsl modems supplied in the telecom deal have
> >>
> >>been
> >>
> >>>>flashed to identify any ICMP message Echo (8) traffic typical of
someone
> >>>>running audio communication software as in headset coversations over
the
> >>>>internet.
> >>>>
> >>>>I've had past business dealings with Scott Shuman and since he deals
with
> >>>>high volumes of email he wants to maintain quick answers with his real
> >>>>paying customers.
> >>>>To do this he is using ICMP 'payloads' to indentify those of us who
fit
> >>
> >>this
> >>
> >>>>category.
> >>>
> >>>I don't understand. You say the modem "identifies" ICMP echo messages?
> >>>What does it do with them after identifying them? And how is Shuman
> >>>using them to identify paying customers exactly?
> >>
> >>
> >>The way i understand it is the Xtra supplied modem is simply blocking
access
> >>to my isp once it detects any ICMP 'payloaded' attempts at server
contact.
> >>My comp runs My Vital Agent and there is a log it records of failed
server
> >>calls blocked (by the modem).
> >>
> >>Shuman has ( as far as i understand it) with my permission cookied my
comp
> >>to make me a valid customer. Even if i remove all History, Cookies, and
Temp
> >>Folder contents www.shumatech.com is still un reachable through the Xtra
> >>supplied modem (indicating ther is a level of memory in the thing i
guess) .
> >>If i use dialup, i can go Shuma's site or a spare different adsl unit
that
> >>is fine too.
> >>
> >>Logic tells me the Xtra modem is out to lunch.....
> >
> >
> > heh.. i didnt believe this till i tried it myself.... im behind a
telecom
> > supplied dsl 302G modem.. i couldnt connect to.. or ping
www.shumatech.com
> > nor could I connect to the webserver by ip ( 63.247.78.210 )
> >
> > at least not until I used a proxy
> >
> > hmm please tell me the evil empire isnt responsible for this.. and its
> > merely a ban on my ip range from shumatechs host
>
> Why not just upgrade your firmware with the latest release from D-Link's
> website? That should resolve the problem shouldn't it?
Have tried but it has made no difference. Xtras support tech has given me
the D-Link tech repair phone number and maybe i'll be able to flash mine via
the USB port once i have the info.
Till then i'm screwed...but as i've said, if i use dialup i'm fine or if i
reconfigure and use a mates loan ADSL modem he bought, i'm fine.
Time someone with more IT knowledge and the gift of the gab who can speak
the lingo of networking and adsl blew the whistle on this Xtra ripoff.
BASTARDS!!!!
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| | From: | Bret | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:40:43 +1300 |
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| On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:36:27 +1300, froggy
wrote:
>> Logic tells me the Xtra modem is out to lunch.....
>
>heh.. i didnt believe this till i tried it myself.... im behind a telecom
>supplied dsl 302G modem.. i couldnt connect to.. or ping www.shumatech.com
>nor could I connect to the webserver by ip ( 63.247.78.210 )
>
>at least not until I used a proxy
>
>hmm please tell me the evil empire isnt responsible for this.. and its
>merely a ban on my ip range from shumatechs host
Can't get to it from here, on xtra adsl using a DSE xh1169.
Ping : unknown host schumatech.co.nz.
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| | From: | froggy | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:39:57 +1300 |
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| On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:40:43 +1300, Bret wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:36:27 +1300, froggy
> wrote:
>
>>> Logic tells me the Xtra modem is out to lunch.....
>>
>>heh.. i didnt believe this till i tried it myself.... im behind a telecom
>>supplied dsl 302G modem.. i couldnt connect to.. or ping www.shumatech.com
>>nor could I connect to the webserver by ip ( 63.247.78.210 )
>>
>>at least not until I used a proxy
>>
>>hmm please tell me the evil empire isnt responsible for this.. and its
>>merely a ban on my ip range from shumatechs host
>
> Can't get to it from here, on xtra adsl using a DSE xh1169.
> Ping : unknown host schumatech.co.nz.
..com instead of .co.nz?
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| | From: | Bret | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:56:42 +1300 |
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| On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:39:57 +1300, froggy
wrote:
>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:40:43 +1300, Bret wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:36:27 +1300, froggy
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Logic tells me the Xtra modem is out to lunch.....
>>>
>>>heh.. i didnt believe this till i tried it myself.... im behind a telecom
>>>supplied dsl 302G modem.. i couldnt connect to.. or ping www.shumatech.com
>>>nor could I connect to the webserver by ip ( 63.247.78.210 )
>>>
>>>at least not until I used a proxy
>>>
>>>hmm please tell me the evil empire isnt responsible for this.. and its
>>>merely a ban on my ip range from shumatechs host
>>
>> Can't get to it from here, on xtra adsl using a DSE xh1169.
>> Ping : unknown host schumatech.co.nz.
>
>.com instead of .co.nz?
Yes, how foolish of me :)
ping: unknown host schumatech.com
Same result anyway.
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| | From: | froggy | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:01:09 +1300 |
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| On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:56:42 +1300, Bret wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:39:57 +1300, froggy
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:40:43 +1300, Bret wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:36:27 +1300, froggy
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Logic tells me the Xtra modem is out to lunch.....
>>>>
>>>>heh.. i didnt believe this till i tried it myself.... im behind a telecom
>>>>supplied dsl 302G modem.. i couldnt connect to.. or ping www.shumatech.com
>>>>nor could I connect to the webserver by ip ( 63.247.78.210 )
>>>>
>>>>at least not until I used a proxy
>>>>
>>>>hmm please tell me the evil empire isnt responsible for this.. and its
>>>>merely a ban on my ip range from shumatechs host
>>>
>>> Can't get to it from here, on xtra adsl using a DSE xh1169.
>>> Ping : unknown host schumatech.co.nz.
>>
>>.com instead of .co.nz?
>
> Yes, how foolish of me :)
>
> ping: unknown host schumatech.com
>
one more for luck...
no c in shumatech
(its too bloody hot to think straight .. we won the cricket yesterday
after all! )
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| | From: | Bret | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:27:17 +1300 |
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| On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:01:09 +1300, froggy
wrote:
>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:56:42 +1300, Bret wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:39:57 +1300, froggy
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:40:43 +1300, Bret wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:36:27 +1300, froggy
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Logic tells me the Xtra modem is out to lunch.....
>>>>>
>>>>>heh.. i didnt believe this till i tried it myself.... im behind a telecom
>>>>>supplied dsl 302G modem.. i couldnt connect to.. or ping www.shumatech.com
>>>>>nor could I connect to the webserver by ip ( 63.247.78.210 )
>>>>>
>>>>>at least not until I used a proxy
>>>>>
>>>>>hmm please tell me the evil empire isnt responsible for this.. and its
>>>>>merely a ban on my ip range from shumatechs host
>>>>
>>>> Can't get to it from here, on xtra adsl using a DSE xh1169.
>>>> Ping : unknown host schumatech.co.nz.
>>>
>>>.com instead of .co.nz?
>>
>> Yes, how foolish of me :)
>>
>> ping: unknown host schumatech.com
>>
>one more for luck...
>no c in shumatech
>(its too bloody hot to think straight .. we won the cricket yesterday
>after all! )
PING shumatech.com (63.247.78.210) 56(84) bytes of data.
No response after 10 minutes, no time out?
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| | From: | froggy | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:27:50 +1300 |
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| On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:27:17 +1300, Bret wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:01:09 +1300, froggy
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:56:42 +1300, Bret wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:39:57 +1300, froggy
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:40:43 +1300, Bret wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:36:27 +1300, froggy
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Logic tells me the Xtra modem is out to lunch.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>heh.. i didnt believe this till i tried it myself.... im behind a telecom
>>>>>>supplied dsl 302G modem.. i couldnt connect to.. or ping www.shumatech.com
>>>>>>nor could I connect to the webserver by ip ( 63.247.78.210 )
>>>>>>
>>>>>>at least not until I used a proxy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>hmm please tell me the evil empire isnt responsible for this.. and its
>>>>>>merely a ban on my ip range from shumatechs host
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't get to it from here, on xtra adsl using a DSE xh1169.
>>>>> Ping : unknown host schumatech.co.nz.
>>>>
>>>>.com instead of .co.nz?
>>>
>>> Yes, how foolish of me :)
>>>
>>> ping: unknown host schumatech.com
>>>
>>one more for luck...
>>no c in shumatech
>>(its too bloody hot to think straight .. we won the cricket yesterday
>>after all! )
>
> PING shumatech.com (63.247.78.210) 56(84) bytes of data.
>
> No response after 10 minutes, no time out?
yeah thats what I got.. then I used a proxy and connected just fine
my armchair degree in networking suggests that the host of shumatech has
banned a block of ips..within which resides some of xtras jetstream ips
either that or its the evil empire... which i prefer to blame at every
given chance as much as the next guy
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| | From: | Bret | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:03:36 +1300 |
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| On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:27:50 +1300, froggy
wrote:
>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:27:17 +1300, Bret wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:01:09 +1300, froggy
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:56:42 +1300, Bret wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:39:57 +1300, froggy
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:40:43 +1300, Bret wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:36:27 +1300, froggy
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Logic tells me the Xtra modem is out to lunch.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>heh.. i didnt believe this till i tried it myself.... im behind a telecom
>>>>>>>supplied dsl 302G modem.. i couldnt connect to.. or ping www.shumatech.com
>>>>>>>nor could I connect to the webserver by ip ( 63.247.78.210 )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>at least not until I used a proxy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>hmm please tell me the evil empire isnt responsible for this.. and its
>>>>>>>merely a ban on my ip range from shumatechs host
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't get to it from here, on xtra adsl using a DSE xh1169.
>>>>>> Ping : unknown host schumatech.co.nz.
>>>>>
>>>>>.com instead of .co.nz?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, how foolish of me :)
>>>>
>>>> ping: unknown host schumatech.com
>>>>
>>>one more for luck...
>>>no c in shumatech
>>>(its too bloody hot to think straight .. we won the cricket yesterday
>>>after all! )
>>
>> PING shumatech.com (63.247.78.210) 56(84) bytes of data.
>>
>> No response after 10 minutes, no time out?
>
>yeah thats what I got.. then I used a proxy and connected just fine
>my armchair degree in networking suggests that the host of shumatech has
>banned a block of ips..within which resides some of xtras jetstream ips
>either that or its the evil empire... which i prefer to blame at every
>given chance as much as the next guy
I can get there with an anonymous proxy, definately the work of the
EE.
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| | From: | Bret | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:29:05 +1300 |
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| On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:27:17 +1300, Bret wrote:
>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:01:09 +1300, froggy
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:56:42 +1300, Bret wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:39:57 +1300, froggy
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:40:43 +1300, Bret wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:36:27 +1300, froggy
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Logic tells me the Xtra modem is out to lunch.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>heh.. i didnt believe this till i tried it myself.... im behind a telecom
>>>>>>supplied dsl 302G modem.. i couldnt connect to.. or ping www.shumatech.com
>>>>>>nor could I connect to the webserver by ip ( 63.247.78.210 )
>>>>>>
>>>>>>at least not until I used a proxy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>hmm please tell me the evil empire isnt responsible for this.. and its
>>>>>>merely a ban on my ip range from shumatechs host
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't get to it from here, on xtra adsl using a DSE xh1169.
>>>>> Ping : unknown host schumatech.co.nz.
>>>>
>>>>.com instead of .co.nz?
>>>
>>> Yes, how foolish of me :)
>>>
>>> ping: unknown host schumatech.com
>>>
>>one more for luck...
>>no c in shumatech
>>(its too bloody hot to think straight .. we won the cricket yesterday
>>after all! )
>
>PING shumatech.com (63.247.78.210) 56(84) bytes of data.
>
>No response after 10 minutes, no time out?
Ctrl C: --- shumatech.com ping statistics ---
622 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 620858ms
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| | From: | Matty | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:52:49 +1300 |
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| PeteB wrote:
> I have a DSL-302G in the deal from Xtra and have discovered the site i've
> been doing business with is now 'dead' and un-findable when using the Xtra
> suppied adsl modem. Check this yourselves, those who have one goto:
>
> www.shumatech.com
That doesn't work for me.
(D-Link DSL- 302G from xtra)
While on the subject of xtra things not working, emails that I send
while using an xtra IP number in the range 222.152.0.0 - 222.152.31.255
are rejected by overseas ISPs, because that range has been on SORBS
since last October. How do I get to send emails without going to another
ISP?
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| | From: | Steve | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:47:31 +1300 |
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| Matty wrote:
> PeteB wrote:
>
>> I have a DSL-302G in the deal from Xtra and have discovered the site i've
>> been doing business with is now 'dead' and un-findable when using the
>> Xtra
>> suppied adsl modem. Check this yourselves, those who have one goto:
>>
>> www.shumatech.com
>
>
> That doesn't work for me.
> (D-Link DSL- 302G from xtra)
>
> While on the subject of xtra things not working, emails that I send
> while using an xtra IP number in the range 222.152.0.0 - 222.152.31.255
> are rejected by overseas ISPs, because that range has been on SORBS
> since last October. How do I get to send emails without going to another
> ISP?
>
We use mail servers in the US at work, as NZ is classed as being in Asia
by useless rbl services like spews, and that's where all spam comes from.
No, wait a minute, it all comes from the US. Who uses these people? And
why do they still exist?
Steve
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| | From: | Matty | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:13:57 +1300 |
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| Steve wrote:
> Matty wrote:
>> While on the subject of xtra things not working, emails that I send
>> while using an xtra IP number in the range 222.152.0.0 -
>> 222.152.31.255 are rejected by overseas ISPs, because that range has
>> been on SORBS since last October. How do I get to send emails without
>> going to another ISP?
>>
> We use mail servers in the US at work, as NZ is classed as being in Asia
> by useless rbl services like spews, and that's where all spam comes from.
>
> No, wait a minute, it all comes from the US. Who uses these people? And
> why do they still exist?
news.admin.net-abuse.sightings is full of postings from someone called
Karsten M. Self, who selectively edits spam messages and does not post
the full header details that show where the message came from before it
reached the so-called relay.
A spam message that may have contributed to xtra being put on SORBS last
October actually originated in the US (Virginia), but that originating
IP address has not been put on SORBS.
Whatever the reason that xtra is on SORBS, there's no need to make a ban
lasting four months so far for all xtra jetstream customers on sending
email to many ISPs. A ban for a day is more than enough "punishment".
What about all the spam crap (a hundred a day) that I've been getting
coming from Korea, China, and the US? Why not put THEM on SORBS?
How about xtra rejecting all mail from ISPs that use SORBS? They may as
well as far as I am concerned. I can't send massages to those ISPs anyway.
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| | From: | Collector»NZ | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:39:08 +1300 |
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| Steve said the following on 12/01/2005 10:47 p.m.:
> Matty wrote:
>
>> PeteB wrote:
>>
>>> I have a DSL-302G in the deal from Xtra and have discovered the site
>>> i've
>>> been doing business with is now 'dead' and un-findable when using the
>>> Xtra
>>> suppied adsl modem. Check this yourselves, those who have one goto:
>>>
>>> www.shumatech.com
>>
>>
>>
>> That doesn't work for me.
>> (D-Link DSL- 302G from xtra)
>>
>> While on the subject of xtra things not working, emails that I send
>> while using an xtra IP number in the range 222.152.0.0 -
>> 222.152.31.255 are rejected by overseas ISPs, because that range has
>> been on SORBS since last October. How do I get to send emails without
>> going to another ISP?
>>
> We use mail servers in the US at work, as NZ is classed as being in Asia
> by useless rbl services like spews, and that's where all spam comes from.
>
> No, wait a minute, it all comes from the US. Who uses these people? And
> why do they still exist?
>
>
> Steve
Well I be, FUD again. NZ is classed in APNIC Asia Pacific so yep we get
lumped in with China, Korea etc. Most spam gets relayed through open
machines in the Asia Pacific address space and so we get the bad name as
well, despite the source being the USA
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| | From: | froggy | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:16:35 +1300 |
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for brevity
>> Steve
> Well I be, FUD again. NZ is classed in APNIC Asia Pacific so yep we get
> lumped in with China, Korea etc. Most spam gets relayed through open
> machines in the Asia Pacific address space and so we get the bad name as
> well, despite the source being the USA
doesnt that also include the flamin aussies?
(both being on the APNIC whois servers i mean)
and.. antarctica
oh hell scratch that.. i checked apnics site.. and afghanistans lumped in
with us.. no wonder we get blocked!
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| | From: | PC | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:35:15 +1300 |
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|
"PeteB" wrote in message
news:Oc4Fd.7308$mo2.492116@news.xtra.co.nz...
> Here's another question to everyone (so please excuse the top-posting).
>
> I have a DSL-302G in the deal from Xtra and have discovered the site i've
> been doing business with is now 'dead' and un-findable when using the Xtra
> suppied adsl modem. Check this yourselves, those who have one goto:
>
> www.shumatech.com
>
> (Shumatech is a DRO self-build project for milling and lathe
> machines.....)
>
> Anyway, if i use the old dailup i'm ok. If i borrow my friend's adsl
> modem... which is not a DSL-302G from Xtra, configure it, it works fine to
> the Shumatech site.
>
> The indication is that these 'Xtra' modems are flashed to prevent voice
> use
> through software to make cheap 'telephone calls' etc.... ie if your comp
> originates an ICMP (internet command protocol, the lockout). One IT Guru
> has
> advised i need to reflash my modem!
>
> Xtra helpdesk have asked me to contact D-Link...
>
> What do other owners discover and could this be a dishonest act on Xtras
> part?
>
> Pete
>
----snip-----
No luck from here
Xtra
Jetstream 2Mbit
Dynalink RTA300
IE or Firefox
Visual route show's it dies at Shumatechs IP address.
Paul.
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| | From: | EMB | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:40:08 +1300 |
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| PC wrote:
> No luck from here
> Xtra
> Jetstream 2Mbit
> Dynalink RTA300
Fine here - ihug, non-UBS ADSL 2Mbit DSE ADSL router
--
EMB
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| | From: | froggy | | Subject: | Re: Telcom D-LINK Modems Question | | Date: | Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:22:55 +1300 |
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| On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:11:08 +1300, Ockerr wrote:
> Hi guys I have a 16 plug Router that my 4 Home Computers are Plugged into
> for my Home Networks. I have Just got BroadBand connected into the House and
> was supplied with a D-LINK DSL-302G ADSL Modem. I Notice on the Rear of the
> Modem is a Ethernet socket that the Modem can be connected into the Ethernet
> port on my Computer. as I am not using it in this manner it is spare.
>
> Question is, Can I run a Cable from that Ethernet outlet in the Modem to a
> spare socket on my Network router and use it like a Adsl Router,
>
> When its plugged in, would the other Home Computers see it as another
> connection That they could connect to and use the Internet through it.
>
> Cheers and Thanks
wouldnt this have been your first place to check?
http://www.dlink.com.au/tech/drivers/files/modems/dsl302g.htm
specifically
http://www.dlink.com.au/tech/drivers/files/modems/DSL-302G_Manual.zip
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