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 | | From: | Pollux | | Subject: | Username and Password not being saved when using popups | | Date: | Sat, 8 Jan 2005 17:16:29 -0000 |
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 | Hi,
I wonder if there is a solution to this. Basically, whenever I go to a site that requires authentication through a popup message box, Opera will not save the username and password, even if you tick the save password option. Wand is obviously of no use here since the focus is on the authentication box.
I suspect the reson it's not able to save the password is that the urls that trigger the authentication may vary. However, since the domain is constant, this shouldn't be a problem. Internet Explorer for instance is able to do cope with that.
Is there anything obvious that I'm missing?
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 | | From: | Rijk van Geijtenbeek | | Subject: | Re: Username and Password not being saved when using popups | | Date: | Sun, 09 Jan 2005 02:00:28 +0100 |
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 | On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 17:16:29 -0000, Pollux wrote:
> Hi, > > I wonder if there is a solution to this. Basically, whenever I go to a > site that requires authentication through a popup message box, Opera > will not save the username and password, even if you tick the save > password option. Wand is obviously of no use here since the focus is on > the authentication box.
Can you give an example URL? And note that you can use the wand even in a popup without toolbar, using the Ctrl+Enter shortcut.
> I suspect the reson it's not able to save the password is that the urls > that trigger the authentication may vary. However, since the domain is > constant, this shouldn't be a problem. Internet Explorer for instance is > able to do cope with that. > > Is there anything obvious that I'm missing? >
-- The Web is a procrastination apparatus: | Rijk van Geijtenbeek It can absorb as much time as | Documentation & QA is required to ensure that you | Opera Software ASA won't get any real work done. - J.Nielsen |http://my.opera.com/Rijk/journal
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 | | From: | Pollux | | Subject: | Re: Username and Password not being saved when using popups | | Date: | Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:16:29 -0000 |
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 | In article , rijk@operaremovethiz.com says... > On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 17:16:29 -0000, Pollux wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I wonder if there is a solution to this. Basically, whenever I go to a > > site that requires authentication through a popup message box, Opera > > will not save the username and password, even if you tick the save > > password option. Wand is obviously of no use here since the focus is on > > the authentication box. > > Can you give an example URL? And note that you can use the wand even in a > popup without toolbar, using the Ctrl+Enter shortcut. > > > I suspect the reson it's not able to save the password is that the urls > > that trigger the authentication may vary. However, since the domain is > > constant, this shouldn't be a problem. Internet Explorer for instance is > > able to do cope with that. > > > > Is there anything obvious that I'm missing? > > > > > >
Unfortunately, this only happens on sites that use this authentication method, so you won't be able to test much, but here is a few examples:
http://stockcharts.com/members/analysis/20050104-1.html http://stockcharts.com/members/analysis/20050104-2.html http://stockcharts.com/members/analysis/20050104-3.html
As you can see, the page bit differs slighty each time. It seeems that you're only able to use the save function when the url stays static. If I acces the site through its frontpage at:
http://stockcharts.com/members
this would actually save the username and password correctly because the url is constant. I would then have to navigate through the site to the news item I'm interesting in.
If you access the news item directly or via an external program like an RSS aggregator for instance, Opera doesn't seem to be able to tell that it is within the same site, therefore it should use the same authentication details.
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 | | From: | Rijk van Geijtenbeek | | Subject: | Re: Username and Password not being saved when using popups | | Date: | Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:57:48 +0100 |
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 | On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:16:29 -0000, Pollux wrote: ...
> http://stockcharts.com/members/analysis/20050104-1.html > http://stockcharts.com/members/analysis/20050104-2.html > http://stockcharts.com/members/analysis/20050104-3.html > > As you can see, the page bit differs slighty each time. It seeems that > you're only able to use the save function when the url stays static. If > I acces the site through its frontpage at: > > http://stockcharts.com/members > > this would actually save the username and password correctly because the > url is constant. I would then have to navigate through the site to the > news item I'm interesting in. > > If you access the news item directly or via an external program like an > RSS aggregator for instance, Opera doesn't seem to be able to tell that > it is within the same site, therefore it should use the same > authentication details.
When the site uses http-authentication, Opera doesn't offer an option to save the user/password combination for the server, only for the URL. Only with user/password entries in forms on webpages does Opera offer to save the password for the entire site.
-- The Web is a procrastination apparatus: | Rijk van Geijtenbeek It can absorb as much time as | Documentation & QA is required to ensure that you | Opera Software ASA won't get any real work done. - J.Nielsen |http://my.opera.com/Rijk/journal
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 | | From: | Pollux | | Subject: | Re: Username and Password not being saved when using popups | | Date: | Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:24:23 -0000 |
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 | In article , rijk@operaremovethiz.com says... > On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:16:29 -0000, Pollux wrote: > .. > > > http://stockcharts.com/members/analysis/20050104-1.html > > http://stockcharts.com/members/analysis/20050104-2.html > > http://stockcharts.com/members/analysis/20050104-3.html > > > > As you can see, the page bit differs slighty each time. It seeems that > > you're only able to use the save function when the url stays static. If > > I acces the site through its frontpage at: > > > > http://stockcharts.com/members > > > > this would actually save the username and password correctly because the > > url is constant. I would then have to navigate through the site to the > > news item I'm interesting in. > > > > If you access the news item directly or via an external program like an > > RSS aggregator for instance, Opera doesn't seem to be able to tell that > > it is within the same site, therefore it should use the same > > authentication details. > > When the site uses http-authentication, Opera doesn't offer an option to > save the user/password combination for the server, only for the URL. Only > with user/password entries in forms on webpages does Opera offer to save > the password for the entire site. > >
http-authentication, that was the name that kept escaping me!
Anyway, although I gathered that it was a limitation in Opera, it still offers you to save your username and password. Any normal user would assume that it works just like IE. I do see it as more of a bug than a limitation to be honest.
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