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page refreshes from Opera and/or Google Groups

page refreshes from Opera and/or Google Groups  
Jane D
 Re: page refreshes from Opera and/or Google Groups  
Lee Harvey
 Re: page refreshes from Opera and/or Google Groups  
Jane D
 Re: page refreshes from Opera and/or Google Groups  
Robert Scott
From:Jane D
Subject:page refreshes from Opera and/or Google Groups
Date:Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:51:29 GMT
I recently upgraded to Opera 7.54u1 and recently Google groups has
got a new layout.

I am not sure what has caused it, but if I use Opera to go back and
see the previous page in Google groups then I get that page
downloaded again from the net.

How can I prevent this?
From:Lee Harvey
Subject:Re: page refreshes from Opera and/or Google Groups
Date:Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:18:50 -0500
Jane D wrote:
> I recently upgraded to Opera 7.54u1 and recently Google groups has
> got a new layout.
>
> I am not sure what has caused it, but if I use Opera to go back and
> see the previous page in Google groups then I get that page
> downloaded again from the net.
>
> How can I prevent this?

You might not be able to with 7.54u1, since according to...



....it includes: Improved support for the "must-revalidate" cache directive.

For some user comments on this, see the "Opera 7.54u1 slower than 7.54 ?!?"
thread dated 12/21:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/opera.general/browse_thread/thread/fa8b9fa24528b6f4/10dec3823798c944?d#10dec3823798c944 >

One thing I can confirm is that the new Google groups redesign does use the
"must-revalidate" cache directive.
From:Jane D
Subject:Re: page refreshes from Opera and/or Google Groups
Date:Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:38:57 GMT
On 13 Jan 2005, Lee Harvey wrote:

>
> Jane D wrote:
>> I recently upgraded to Opera 7.54u1 and recently Google groups
>> has got a new layout.
>>
>> I am not sure what has caused it, but if I use Opera to go back
>> and see the previous page in Google groups then I get that page
>> downloaded again from the net.
>>
>> How can I prevent this?
>
> You might not be able to with 7.54u1, since according to...
>
> > http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=782 >
>
> ...it includes: Improved support for the "must-revalidate" cache
> directive.
>
> For some user comments on this, see the "Opera 7.54u1 slower
> than 7.54 ?!?" thread dated 12/21:
>
> > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/opera.general/browse_thread/t
> hread/fa8b9fa24528b6f4/10dec3823798c944?d#10dec3823798c944 >
>
> One thing I can confirm is that the new Google groups redesign
> does use the "must-revalidate" cache directive.
>

Hmmm, that is a step backwards. I really and truly loved Opera's
ability to go back several pages without reloading.

However if I have understood the technical debate in that thread then
Opera will stop refreshing BACK PAGES in the next version. I hope
so!
From:Robert Scott
Subject:Re: page refreshes from Opera and/or Google Groups
Date:Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:24:42 GMT
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:38:57 GMT, Jane D wrote:


>Hmmm, that is a step backwards. I really and truly loved Opera's
>ability to go back several pages without reloading.


I agree. One of the main reasons I like Opera (I use version 7.20
build 3144) is that it allows me to quickly browse a particular
technical forum (www.control.com) using my dial-up connection without
having to reload the main page every time I went back from reading a
particular posting. That main page has a lot of graphics and stuff
that must be loaded before I see the good stuff. It was a pain with
Netscape and IE. The designer of that website probably wanted to flag
the main page as "Must Revalidate" because someone might have added a
posting to the list while I was reading another posting. But the list
is moderated and postings are usually added in a group. If I really
wanted to be sure I wasn't missing anything, I could always hit
"Reload". I appreciate the ability to ignore the "Must Revalidate"
flag, particularly when the website designers make indiscriminant use
of that flag.


-Robert Scott
Ypsilanti, Michigan
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