Hi,
=

First off, since I'm going to be semi-griping, let me say that I love t=
he =

Opera browser, its an amazing piece of software all around.

Some things that I haven't been able to figure out/find:

1. I know there are a ton of commands that you can map to keys in =

Opera's preferences (if you start typing you can see them in the auto =

completion), but is there a comprehensive categorized list somewhere =

online of what they all are? Also, some of the syntax for combining =

commands is not clear to me, is there an explanation of this somewhere, =
I =

haven't been able to find it?
Specifically:
Is there a way to map opening unread mail to a key?
Is there a way to map adding a bookmark straight to a folder to a key?=

2. Opera's modular error popus are extremely annoying to me, I would =

rather have an error page, or some other nonmodal indication rather than=
=

be rudely interrupted if a window in the background failed to load. Is =
=

there an option for this anywhere?
One of the most annoying manifestations of this is the email =

checker. I cannot set the mail to automatic lookup because I have a =

laptop and am not always connected. When I don't have a connection, it =
=

popsup a notification every 5 minutes telling me that it could not conne=
ct =

to the mail server. Then I usually have to re-enter my password in the =
=

preferences. Is this fixable?
=

3. This is more of a feature request unless I am totally blind, but I =
=

open up a ton of windows, and it would immensely useful for me if there =
=

was a quick search in the window panel. For example when I

This seems to be a *great* idea:
4. I know not everyone is a programmer (the programmers could share =
=

:), but it would of course be INCREDIBLE if Opera were scriptable (again=
, =

I could be blind, maybe this is available), so one could do things like =
=

search for a regex on a page, and essentially automate any browsing =

process that is repetitive (for example, open up the first 5 results on =
a =

search page, and show me a summary page with only the lines that contain=
=

the search terms). It would also be nice if there was a way to wrap som=
e =

specific commands around google (ie, "focus on next result link", "open =
=

the cache" etc) similarly to http://labs.google.com/keys/ (which is not=
=

working anymore). A little of this can be done as a web service, but it=
=

would be much more powerful in a browser like Opera, where it could open=
=

multiple pages, be bound to a key, interact with the mail and so on. =

Taken to the extreme, Opera this could be an Opera plug-in base (but I'm=
=

no expert here). The framework to do this seems to be there. Since we =
=

can combine commands in the preferences page, just need to add some more=
=

basic commands and control structures, and voila! But I am really just =
=

having a wet-dream at this point so I'll stop.. =3D/

I have a ton more, but I know thats a lot of stuff, (I have been =

aggregating for over a year =3D) In hindsight perhaps I should have made=
=

seperate posts.. o well. Thanks in advance for any help, I will try to =
=

contribute back to this newsgroup as much as I can.

--
Ashot Petrosian

From:	Steven V. Gunhouse
Subject:	Re: A few questions
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:29:11 GMT

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:55:47 -0800, Ashot Petrosian
wrote:

As it doesn't look like anyone ventured to answer the actual questions
yet...

>
> Hi,
>
> First off, since I'm going to be semi-griping, let me say that I love
> the Opera browser, its an amazing piece of software all around.
>
> Some things that I haven't been able to figure out/find:
>
> 1. I know there are a ton of commands that you can map to keys in
> Opera's preferences (if you start typing you can see them in the auto
> completion), but is there a comprehensive categorized list somewhere
> online of what they all are? Also, some of the syntax for combining
> commands is not clear to me, is there an explanation of this somewhere,
> I haven't been able to find it?

http://nontroppo.org/wiki/AllActions is a good place to start.

> Specifically:
> Is there a way to map opening unread mail to a key?

Sure, though I'll need to look it up. It would be Read mail. They already
did that as a button, just have to copy it from there.

> Is there a way to map adding a bookmark straight to a folder to a key?

Provided your intent is to open all the bookmarks in the folder at once.
Assign a nickname to the folder (Right-click, Properties), then assign a
command of Go to page, "nickname"

> 2. Opera's modular error popus are extremely annoying to me, I would
> rather have an error page, or some other nonmodal indication rather than
> be rudely interrupted if a window in the background failed to load. Is
> there an option for this anywhere?
> One of the most annoying manifestations of this is the email
> checker. I cannot set the mail to automatic lookup because I have a
> laptop and am not always connected. When I don't have a connection, it
> popsup a notification every 5 minutes telling me that it could not
> connect to the mail server. Then I usually have to re-enter my password
> in the preferences. Is this fixable?

In Opera 8, page errors are displayed in the page. Unfortunately you can't
do that with email ... try setting File, Work offline. And if you see one
of those error dialogs, press Cancel so as not to erase your password.
(Yes, I erased my password more than once before determining that Cancel
would prevent that instead of clicking Okay.)

> 3. This is more of a feature request unless I am totally blind, but I
> open up a ton of windows, and it would immensely useful for me if there
> was a quick search in the window panel. For example when I

When you ...? You cut off in mid-example here ...

> This seems to be a *great* idea:
> 4. I know not everyone is a programmer (the programmers could share
> :), but it would of course be INCREDIBLE if Opera were scriptable
> (again, I could be blind, maybe this is available), so one could do
> things like search for a regex on a page, and essentially automate any
> browsing process that is repetitive (for example, open up the first 5
> results on a search page, and show me a summary page with only the lines
> that contain the search terms). It would also be nice if there was a
> way to wrap some specific commands around google (ie, "focus on next
> result link", "open the cache" etc) similarly to
> http://labs.google.com/keys/ (which is not working anymore). A little
> of this can be done as a web service, but it would be much more powerful
> in a browser like Opera, where it could open multiple pages, be bound to
> a key, interact with the mail and so on. Taken to the extreme, Opera
> this could be an Opera plug-in base (but I'm no expert here). The
> framework to do this seems to be there. Since we can combine commands
> in the preferences page, just need to add some more basic commands and
> control structures, and voila! But I am really just having a wet-dream
> at this point so I'll stop.. =/

I've requested some legitimate scripting commands myself. Some things can
be done using Javascipt (aka scriptlets or bookmarklets), but some things
(like looking for a particular open page) can't. (Or editor macros for
email.)

> I have a ton more, but I know thats a lot of stuff, (I have been
> aggregating for over a year =) In hindsight perhaps I should have made
> seperate posts.. o well. Thanks in advance for any help, I will try to
> contribute back to this newsgroup as much as I can.
>
> --
> Ashot Petrosian

There is an opera.wishlist newsgroup, if your questions are like #4 above.

--
Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

From:	Ashot Petrosian
Subject:	Re: A few questions
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:51:50 -0800

great stuff, thanks!
(more below)
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:29:11 GMT, Steven V. Gunhouse =

wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:55:47 -0800, Ashot Petrosian =

> wrote:
>
> As it doesn't look like anyone ventured to answer the actual questions=
=

> yet...
>
>>
>> Hi,
>> =

>> First off, since I'm going to be semi-griping, let me say that I lov=
e =

>> the Opera browser, its an amazing piece of software all around.
>>
>> Some things that I haven't been able to figure out/find:
>>
>> 1. I know there are a ton of commands that you can map to keys in =

>> Opera's preferences (if you start typing you can see them in the auto=
=

>> completion), but is there a comprehensive categorized list somewhere =
=

>> online of what they all are? Also, some of the syntax for combining =
=

>> commands is not clear to me, is there an explanation of this somewher=
e, =

>> I haven't been able to find it?
>
> http://nontroppo.org/wiki/AllActions is a good place to start.

thats a great page, and the other stuff they have there is very useful.

>
>> Specifically:
>> Is there a way to map opening unread mail to a key?
>
> Sure, though I'll need to look it up. It would be Read mail. They =

> already did that as a button, just have to copy it from there.

I meant opening the "unread" mail folder (right now I have to open the=
=

mail panel and click "unread"), sorry I see that wasn't clear.

>
>> Is there a way to map adding a bookmark straight to a folder to a k=
ey?
>
> Provided your intent is to open all the bookmarks in the folder at onc=
e. =

> Assign a nickname to the folder (Right-click, Properties), then assign=
a =

> command of Go to page, "nickname"
Here too I wasn't clear, I meant adding the current page address to a =
=

particular folder in the bookmarks without any dialogs.
>
>> 2. Opera's modular error popus are extremely annoying to me, I would=
=

>> rather have an error page, or some other nonmodal indication rather =

>> than be rudely interrupted if a window in the background failed to =

>> load. Is there an option for this anywhere?
>> One of the most annoying manifestations of this is the email =

>> checker. I cannot set the mail to automatic lookup because I have a =
=

>> laptop and am not always connected. When I don't have a connection, =
it =

>> popsup a notification every 5 minutes telling me that it could not =

>> connect to the mail server. Then I usually have to re-enter my =

>> password in the preferences. Is this fixable?
>
> In Opera 8, page errors are displayed in the page. Unfortunately you =

> can't do that with email ... try setting File, Work offline. And if yo=
u =

> see one of those error dialogs, press Cancel so as not to erase your =

> password. (Yes, I erased my password more than once before determining=
=

> that Cancel would prevent that instead of clicking Okay.)
>
>> 3. This is more of a feature request unless I am totally blind, but=
I =

>> open up a ton of windows, and it would immensely useful for me if the=
re =

>> was a quick search in the window panel. For example when I
>
> When you ...? You cut off in mid-example here ...

Oops. When I have 20 windows open and I have been surfing about two =

different topics, say python and perl. I would like to type in to the =

quick search (in the windows panel) and have it filter to only windows =

which have "perl" in them (would be awesome if it searched the entire =

page, but title would be good too)
>
>> This seems to be a *great* idea:
>> 4. I know not everyone is a programmer (the programmers could sha=
re =

>> :), but it would of course be INCREDIBLE if Opera were scriptable =

>> (again, I could be blind, maybe this is available), so one could do =

>> things like search for a regex on a page, and essentially automate an=
y =

>> browsing process that is repetitive (for example, open up the first 5=
=

>> results on a search page, and show me a summary page with only the =

>> lines that contain the search terms). It would also be nice if there=
=

>> was a way to wrap some specific commands around google (ie, "focus on=
=

>> next result link", "open the cache" etc) similarly to =

>> http://labs.google.com/keys/ (which is not working anymore). A litt=
le =

>> of this can be done as a web service, but it would be much more =

>> powerful in a browser like Opera, where it could open multiple pages,=
=

>> be bound to a key, interact with the mail and so on. Taken to the =

>> extreme, Opera this could be an Opera plug-in base (but I'm no expert=
=

>> here). The framework to do this seems to be there. Since we can =

>> combine commands in the preferences page, just need to add some more =
=

>> basic commands and control structures, and voila! But I am really ju=
st =

>> having a wet-dream at this point so I'll stop.. =3D/
>
> I've requested some legitimate scripting commands myself. Some things =
=

> can be done using Javascipt (aka scriptlets or bookmarklets), but some=
=

> things (like looking for a particular open page) can't. (Or editor =

> macros for email.)
>
>> I have a ton more, but I know thats a lot of stuff, (I have been =

>> aggregating for over a year =3D) In hindsight perhaps I should have m=
ade =

>> seperate posts.. o well. Thanks in advance for any help, I will try =
to =

>> contribute back to this newsgroup as much as I can.
>>
>> --
>> Ashot Petrosian
>
> There is an opera.wishlist newsgroup, if your questions are like #4 =

> above.
>

Thanks for your help.

Also, I forgot the worst problem for me: text wrapping is a bit off. In=
=

email or other newsgroup compose windows, about half of the last word on=
=

the right is cut off? Maybe this is a font issue though I'm not sure.

-- =

-Ashot Petrosian

From:	Steven V. Gunhouse
Subject:	Re: A few questions
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:47:58 GMT

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:51:50 -0800, Ashot Petrosian
wrote:

> great stuff, thanks!
> (more below)
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:29:11 GMT, Steven V. Gunhouse
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:55:47 -0800, Ashot Petrosian
>> wrote:
>>
>> As it doesn't look like anyone ventured to answer the actual questions
>> yet...
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> First off, since I'm going to be semi-griping, let me say that I love
>>> the Opera browser, its an amazing piece of software all around.
>>>
>>> Some things that I haven't been able to figure out/find:
>>>
>>> 1. I know there are a ton of commands that you can map to keys in
>>> Opera's preferences (if you start typing you can see them in the auto
>>> completion), but is there a comprehensive categorized list somewhere
>>> online of what they all are? Also, some of the syntax for combining
>>> commands is not clear to me, is there an explanation of this
>>> somewhere, I haven't been able to find it?
>>
>> http://nontroppo.org/wiki/AllActions is a good place to start.
>
> thats a great page, and the other stuff they have there is very useful.

Of course non-troppo assembled most of that material, but it is a wiki so
anyone can contribute.

>>
>>> Specifically:
>>> Is there a way to map opening unread mail to a key?
>>
>> Sure, though I'll need to look it up. It would be Read mail. They
>> already did that as a button, just have to copy it from there.
>
> I meant opening the "unread" mail folder (right now I have to open the
> mail panel and click "unread"), sorry I see that wasn't clear.

You were clear. Just try it. Assign a key to the command "Read mail", you
get a mail window showing the Unread folder.

>>
>>> Is there a way to map adding a bookmark straight to a folder to a key?
>>
>> Provided your intent is to open all the bookmarks in the folder at
>> once. Assign a nickname to the folder (Right-click, Properties), then
>> assign a command of Go to page, "nickname"
> Here too I wasn't clear, I meant adding the current page address to a
> particular folder in the bookmarks without any dialogs.

Oh ... sorry, don't think so. They want you to have an opportunity to edit
the title (most page titles are huge) and/or description and nickname.

>>> 2. Opera's modular error popus are extremely annoying to me, I would
>>> rather have an error page, or some other nonmodal indication rather
>>> than be rudely interrupted if a window in the background failed to
>>> load. Is there an option for this anywhere?
>>> One of the most annoying manifestations of this is the email
>>> checker. I cannot set the mail to automatic lookup because I have a
>>> laptop and am not always connected. When I don't have a connection,
>>> it popsup a notification every 5 minutes telling me that it could not
>>> connect to the mail server. Then I usually have to re-enter my
>>> password in the preferences. Is this fixable?
>>
>> In Opera 8, page errors are displayed in the page. Unfortunately you
>> can't do that with email ... try setting File, Work offline. And if you
>> see one of those error dialogs, press Cancel so as not to erase your
>> password. (Yes, I erased my password more than once before determining
>> that Cancel would prevent that instead of clicking Okay.)
>>
>>> 3. This is more of a feature request unless I am totally blind, but
>>> I open up a ton of windows, and it would immensely useful for me if
>>> there was a quick search in the window panel. For example when I
>>
>> When you ...? You cut off in mid-example here ...
>
> Oops. When I have 20 windows open and I have been surfing about two
> different topics, say python and perl. I would like to type in to the
> quick search (in the windows panel) and have it filter to only windows
> which have "perl" in them (would be awesome if it searched the entire
> page, but title would be good too)
>>
>>> This seems to be a *great* idea:
>>> 4. I know not everyone is a programmer (the programmers could
>>> share :), but it would of course be INCREDIBLE if Opera were
>>> scriptable (again, I could be blind, maybe this is available), so one
>>> could do things like search for a regex on a page, and essentially
>>> automate any browsing process that is repetitive (for example, open up
>>> the first 5 results on a search page, and show me a summary page with
>>> only the lines that contain the search terms). It would also be nice
>>> if there was a way to wrap some specific commands around google (ie,
>>> "focus on next result link", "open the cache" etc) similarly to
>>> http://labs.google.com/keys/ (which is not working anymore). A
>>> little of this can be done as a web service, but it would be much more
>>> powerful in a browser like Opera, where it could open multiple pages,
>>> be bound to a key, interact with the mail and so on. Taken to the
>>> extreme, Opera this could be an Opera plug-in base (but I'm no expert
>>> here). The framework to do this seems to be there. Since we can
>>> combine commands in the preferences page, just need to add some more
>>> basic commands and control structures, and voila! But I am really
>>> just having a wet-dream at this point so I'll stop.. =/
>>
>> I've requested some legitimate scripting commands myself. Some things
>> can be done using Javascipt (aka scriptlets or bookmarklets), but some
>> things (like looking for a particular open page) can't. (Or editor
>> macros for email.)
>>
>>> I have a ton more, but I know thats a lot of stuff, (I have been
>>> aggregating for over a year =) In hindsight perhaps I should have made
>>> seperate posts.. o well. Thanks in advance for any help, I will try
>>> to contribute back to this newsgroup as much as I can.
>>>
>>
>> There is an opera.wishlist newsgroup, if your questions are like #4
>> above.
>>
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Also, I forgot the worst problem for me: text wrapping is a bit off. In
> email or other newsgroup compose windows, about half of the last word on
> the right is cut off? Maybe this is a font issue though I'm not sure.
>

Don't use the Tab key, Opera counts the tab character as one character
regardless of how long it is actually displayed. I removed all the tabs
from your reply above to be able to read it properly. There also can be
font issues, if you have the font set to some bitmapped font (such as
Terminal or Courier) rather than a Truetype font (such as Courier New). I
used to have that problem in Microsoft Word for Windows 2.0 (way back in
Windows 3.1).

--
Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

From:	Richard Grevers
Subject:	Re: A few questions
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:43:34 +1300

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:51:50 -0800, Ashot Petrosian
wrote:

> I meant opening the "unread" mail folder (right now I have to open the
> mail panel and click "unread"), sorry I see that wasn't clear.

There's always the menu shortcut : Alt-M-R-U (mail read unread)
>>

>>
>>> 3. This is more of a feature request unless I am totally blind, but
>>> I open up a ton of windows, and it would immensely useful for me if
>>> there was a quick search in the window panel. For example when I
>>
>> When you ...? You cut off in mid-example here ...
>
> Oops. When I have 20 windows open and I have been surfing about two
> different topics, say python and perl. I would like to type in to the
> quick search (in the windows panel) and have it filter to only windows
> which have "perl" in them (would be awesome if it searched the entire
> page, but title would be good too)

Good idea. In the meantime, what I tend to do if I have a split like this
is sort them into two windows.

--
Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

From:	Ashot Petrosian
Subject:	Re: A few questions
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:27:21 -0800

>>>
>>>> 3. This is more of a feature request unless I am totally blind, b=
ut =

>>>> I open up a ton of windows, and it would immensely useful for me if=
=

>>>> there was a quick search in the window panel. For example when I
>>>
>>> When you ...? You cut off in mid-example here ...
>>
>> Oops. When I have 20 windows open and I have been surfing about two=
=

>> different topics, say python and perl. I would like to type in to th=
e =

>> quick search (in the windows panel) and have it filter to only window=
s =

>> which have "perl" in them (would be awesome if it searched the entire=
=

>> page, but title would be good too)
>
> Good idea. In the meantime, what I tend to do if I have a split like =

> this is sort them into two windows.

is there an easy way to do this, ie to select certain pages and split =

them into a new window?

>
>
>
>

-- =

-Ashot Petrosian

From:	Steven V. Gunhouse
Subject:	Re: A few questions
Date:	Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:04:46 GMT

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:27:21 -0800, Ashot Petrosian
wrote:
>
>>>>

>>>>
>>>> When you ...? You cut off in mid-example here ...
>>>
>>> Oops. When I have 20 windows open and I have been surfing about two
>>> different topics, say python and perl. I would like to type in to the
>>> quick search (in the windows panel) and have it filter to only windows
>>> which have "perl" in them (would be awesome if it searched the entire
>>> page, but title would be good too)
>>
>> Good idea. In the meantime, what I tend to do if I have a split like
>> this is sort them into two windows.
>
> is there an easy way to do this, ie to select certain pages and split
> them into a new window?

Trivial with the Windows panel. Create a new window, drag all the paes you
want to that window. No, can't drag multiple selected items, though maybe
cut-and-paste would work. Ctrl-click to select ... how about that, drag
worked (in Linux 8.0 B1) - I was sure someone said it didn't.

--
Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

From:	Mike
Subject:	Re: A few questions
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:20:08 -0500

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:51:50 -0800, "Ashot Petrosian"
wrote:
[snip]
>> http://nontroppo.org/wiki/AllActions is a good place to start.
>
>thats a great page, and the other stuff they have there is very useful.

Really? This line from that wiki, "Opera 8.0 has a new core, which has had a
major overhaul, and the underlying technology is in fact vastly improved."
seems rather specious.

So far, for me Opera 8 has crashed so much more than Opera 7 as to render it
nearly unusable.

It seems like a pre-alpha has been passed off as a beta.

From:	Tim Altman
Subject:	Re: A few questions
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:11:05 +0100

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:20:08 -0500, Mike
wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:51:50 -0800, "Ashot Petrosian"
> wrote:
>[snip]
>>> http://nontroppo.org/wiki/AllActions is a good place to start.
>>
>>thats a great page, and the other stuff they have there is very useful.
>
>Really? This line from that wiki, "Opera 8.0 has a new core, which has had a
>major overhaul, and the underlying technology is in fact vastly improved."
>seems rather specious.
>
>So far, for me Opera 8 has crashed so much more than Opera 7 as to render it
>nearly unusable.

Details about these problems would be helpful so they can be
fixed before 8.0 beta becomes 8.0 final.

--
Tim Altman
Core QA
Opera Software

From:	Ashot Petrosian
Subject:	Re: A few questions
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:27:48 -0800

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:20:08 -0500, Mike wrote=
:

> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:51:50 -0800, "Ashot Petrosian"
> wrote:
> [snip]
>>> http://nontroppo.org/wiki/AllActions is a good place to start.
>>
>> thats a great page, and the other stuff they have there is very usefu=
l.
>
> Really? This line from that wiki, "Opera 8.0 has a new core, which h=
as =

> had a
> major overhaul, and the underlying technology is in fact vastly =

> improved."
> seems rather specious.
>
> So far, for me Opera 8 has crashed so much more than Opera 7 as to =

> render it
> nearly unusable.
>
> It seems like a pre-alpha has been passed off as a beta.

This is non-sensical. First, both could (and very likely are) true; its =
a =

new, vastly improved, but not polished core. Second, it seems you are =
=

saying that the wiki is not useful because your Opera 8 _beta_ crashes =

more than the final Opera 7 release (eh?). I don't get it..

-- =

-Ashot Petrosian

From:	Ed Jay
Subject:	Re: A few questions
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 04:28:26 GMT

Mike wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:51:50 -0800, "Ashot Petrosian"
> wrote:
>[snip]
>>> http://nontroppo.org/wiki/AllActions is a good place to start.
>>
>>thats a great page, and the other stuff they have there is very useful.
>
>Really? This line from that wiki, "Opera 8.0 has a new core, which has had a
>major overhaul, and the underlying technology is in fact vastly improved."
>seems rather specious.
>
>So far, for me Opera 8 has crashed so much more than Opera 7 as to render it
>nearly unusable.
>
>It seems like a pre-alpha has been passed off as a beta.

Perhaps you have something else amiss. I've been using 8 for a couple of
weeks without a single crash...or other problem, for that matter. Yes,
there are a few minor bugs, but I've experienced no serious problems.

Ed Jay (remove M to respond)

From:	PT
Subject:	Re: A few questions
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:40:30 +0100

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:55:47 -0800, Ashot Petrosian
wrote:
>
> This seems to be a *great* idea:
> 4. I know not everyone is a programmer (the programmers could share
> :), but it would of course be INCREDIBLE if Opera were scriptable
> (again, I could be blind, maybe this is available), so one could do
> things like search for a regex on a page, and essentially automate any
> browsing process that is repetitive

Hear, hear!

It has been requested numerous times before, but seemingly the Opera
developers don't think it's such a great idea.

> (for example, open up the first 5 results on a search page, and show me
> a summary page with only the lines that contain the search terms).

I'm no javascript expert, but can't this be done with a bookmarklet?

From:	Ashot Petrosian
Subject:	Re: A few questions
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:03:38 -0800

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:40:30 +0100, PT wrot=
e:

> On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:55:47 -0800, Ashot Petrosian =

> wrote:
>>
>> This seems to be a *great* idea:
>> 4. I know not everyone is a programmer (the programmers could sha=
re =

>> :), but it would of course be INCREDIBLE if Opera were scriptable =

>> (again, I could be blind, maybe this is available), so one could do =

>> things like search for a regex on a page, and essentially automate an=
y =

>> browsing process that is repetitive
>
> Hear, hear!
>
> It has been requested numerous times before, but seemingly the Opera =

> developers don't think it's such a great idea.

have they given any reasons as to why?

>
>> (for example, open up the first 5 results on a search page, and show =
me =

>> a summary page with only the lines that contain the search terms).
>
> I'm no javascript expert, but can't this be done with a bookmarklet?
perhaps this example, but there are plenty which aren't possible.

-- =

-Ashot Petrosian

From:	van Grieg
Subject:	Re: A few questions
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:05:40 +0300

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:03:38 -0800, Ashot Petrosian
wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:40:30 +0100, PT

>> It has been requested numerous times before, but seemingly the Opera
>> developers don't think it's such a great idea.
>
> have they given any reasons as to why?

Not really, if you don't count "this is not a priority" as a reason.

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From:	PT
Subject:	Re: A few questions
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:49:42 +0100

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:05:40 +0300, van Grieg wrote:
>>
>> have they given any reasons as to why?
>
> Not really, if you don't count "this is not a priority" as a reason.
>

BTW, Opera uses the Qt toolkit which provides a scripting framework for
applications:

http://www.trolltech.com/products/qsa/

I wonder if it could be used to make Opera scriptable.

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From:	Wanja Gayk
Subject:	Re: A few questions
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:13:30 +0100

PT said...

> > BTW, Opera uses the Qt toolkit

Really, does it?
I was concerned Opera used some home-grown UI-toolkit.

Greets,
-Wanja-

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From:	Peter Karlsson
Subject:	Re: A few questions
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:02:16 +0100

PT:

> BTW, Opera uses the Qt toolkit which provides a scripting framework for
> applications:

Only on Linux and Unix-like systems, so if this was to be supported it
would be for those versions only.

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From:	Ashot Petrosian
Subject:	Re: A few questions
Date:	Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:08:26 -0800

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:02:16 +0100, Peter Karlsson wro=
te:

> PT:
>
>> BTW, Opera uses the Qt toolkit which provides a scripting framework f=
or =

>> applications:
>
> Only on Linux and Unix-like systems, so if this was to be supported it=
=

> would be for those versions only.

I don't think its realistic or easiest to use Qt's scripting framework f=
or =

something high level like this anyway (at least they need a wrapper)

-- =

-Ashot Petrosian

From:	Geoff Morris
Subject:	Re: A few questions
Date:	Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:20:22 +0100

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:55:47 -0800, Ashot Petrosian
wrote:

> 1. I know there are a ton of commands that you can map to keys in
> Opera's preferences (if you start typing you can see them in the auto
> completion), but is there a comprehensive categorized list somewhere
> online of what they all are? Also, some of the syntax for combining
> commands is not clear to me, is there an explanation of this somewhere,
> I haven't been able to find it?

I second that! I've figured some stuff out myself, but it was all by trial
and error and I have the distinct feeling that there may be handy things
possible that I just don't know about!

> 2. Opera's modular error popus are extremely annoying to me, I would
> rather have an error page, or some other nonmodal indication rather than
> be rudely interrupted if a window in the background failed to load. Is
> there an option for this anywhere?

This has been requested and discussed many times. I hope that OperaFolk
are bearing this in mind.

--
Geoff
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