 | | From: | Rijk van Geijtenbeek | | Subject: | Re: Does Firefox do anything that Opera doesn't ? | | Date: | Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:46:14 +0100 |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:54:10 -0600, Trevor Gough wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:12:35 +0200, Lauri Raittila
> wrote:
... very long snip ..
>> Like I said, I am not avarage joe.
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> Do yourself Lauri and don't use beta/preview versions of Opera at all or
> use something that tickles your fancy more. Sounds like Firefox is your
> choice ... so use it. You will not convince me and I will not convince
> you. Have fun!
Now this is an excellent example of a posting where 'top-posting,
bottom-quoting' would be have been much more efficient for me as a reader.
If the added remark is not about specific points, don't force me to scroll
down all the way to read a oneliner.
Strictly my opinion if course, and not related to the actual thread
content which I stopped reading after 10 messages :)
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| | From: | Jernej Simon+AQ0-i+AQ0- | | Subject: | Re: Does Firefox do anything that Opera doesn't ? | | Date: | Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:05:05 +0100 |
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| on Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:46:14 +-0100, Rijk van Geijtenbeek wrote:
> Now this is an excellent example of a posting where 'top-posting,
> bottom-quoting' would be have been much more efficient for me as a reader.
> If the added remark is not about specific points, don't force me to scroll
> down all the way to read a oneliner.
If I have to choose, I prefer top-posting to bottom-posting. But with all
messages that require me to press spacebar more than 2 times to get to next
useful content, I'll probably press I instead and ignore the rest of
thread.
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| | From: | Robin Zalek | | Subject: | Re: Does Firefox do anything that Opera doesn't ? | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:17:24 -0000 |
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| On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:05:05 +0100, Jernej Simončič
wrote:
> If I have to choose, I prefer top-posting to bottom-posting. But with all
> messages that require me to press spacebar more than 2 times to get to
> next
> useful content, I'll probably press I instead and ignore the rest of
> thread.
>
But both are clearly inferior next to selective quoting (provided that's
done properly).
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| | From: | Matthew Winn | | Subject: | Re: Does Firefox do anything that Opera doesn't ? | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:47:38 +0000 (UTC) |
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| On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:46:14 +0100, Rijk van Geijtenbeek wrote:
(regarding a 15000 line post with around three bits of new content[1])
> Now this is an excellent example of a posting where 'top-posting,
> bottom-quoting' would be have been much more efficient for me as a reader.
That depends on your newsreader. If you're using one with a single
key read feature that pages down each article and then moves on to
the next unread message at the end then it makes little difference
which end of the article the quoted text is placed: you still have
to page down the entire quote. The only difference is that with
top-posting you have to page all the way up again to understand the
new text.
[1] There may be some exaggeration in this sentence.
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| | From: | van Grieg | | Subject: | Re: Does Firefox do anything that Opera doesn't ? | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:22:17 +0300 |
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| On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:47:38 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Winn
wrote:
>> Now this is an excellent example of a posting where 'top-posting,
>> bottom-quoting' would be have been much more efficient for me as a
>> reader.
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> That depends on your newsreader.
I think the whole point of web standards is that usability and readability
*shouldn't* depend on the newsreader/browser/whatever.
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| | From: | Matthew Winn | | Subject: | Re: Does Firefox do anything that Opera doesn't ? | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:44:51 +0000 (UTC) |
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| On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:22:17 +0300, van Grieg wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:47:38 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Winn
> wrote:
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> >> Now this is an excellent example of a posting where 'top-posting,
> >> bottom-quoting' would be have been much more efficient for me as a
> >> reader.
> >
> > That depends on your newsreader.
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> I think the whole point of web standards is that usability and readability
> *shouldn't* depend on the newsreader/browser/whatever.
This is why people who don't trim irrelevant parts of quotes before
posting must be destroyed, and I am assembling my Legions of Terror
for exactly that purpose.
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