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Re: Non-active links under invisble flash

Re: Non-active links under invisble flash  
Emiml
 Re: Non-active links under invisble flash  
Steven V. Gunhouse
 Re: Non-active links under invisble flash  
R.A.G. Seely
 Re: Non-active links under invisble flash  
Steven V. Gunhouse
From:Emiml
Subject:Re: Non-active links under invisble flash
Date:Thu, 09 Dec 2004 01:11:55 +0100
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:15:04 +0000, Steven V. Gunhouse wrote:

>> http://emiml.ath.cx/Opera_754_inactivelinks.mpeg The first link is

> I can't watch your video anyway, I don't have the right codec - and you
> have an extremely slow server. I spent 9 minutes downloading the file, and
> then couldn't play it anyway. Why not just say the title of the link you
> can't click?
It's not server - it's just home-desktop with apache installed. 9
minutes is not so bad, and least this "movie" is worth seeing. It can be
played well on both: xine and mplayer. Unfortunatly I don't know how to
use that on WindowsMedaiPlayer

>
> I didn't see any links which I couldn't click ...
Right now I cannot reproduce that - thats the worst thing. It must depend
on some other things, but I don't know yet what exactly. Anyway I saw such
behaviour several times, and it's really annoying.
Myabe viewing my "movie" will help someone tracking the real problem here,
Probably my settings from Multimedia tab will be usueful here: Enable
plugins=off, Enbale java=off, and rest are on.
From:Steven V. Gunhouse
Subject:Re: Non-active links under invisble flash
Date:Thu, 09 Dec 2004 06:38:30 GMT
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 01:11:55 +0100, Emiml
wrote:
>
> On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:15:04 +0000, Steven V. Gunhouse wrote:
>
>>> http://emiml.ath.cx/Opera_754_inactivelinks.mpeg The first link is
>
>> I can't watch your video anyway, I don't have the right codec - and you
>> have an extremely slow server. I spent 9 minutes downloading the file,
>> and
>> then couldn't play it anyway. Why not just say the title of the link you
>> can't click?
> It's not server - it's just home-desktop with apache installed. 9
> minutes is not so bad, and least this "movie" is worth seeing. It can be
> played well on both: xine and mplayer. Unfortunatly I don't know how to
> use that on WindowsMedaiPlayer

Nothing wrong with your desktop being a server, if you have the bandwidth
(and appropriate security).

I don't use WMP either, I play mpeg files in RealPlayer or Quicktime.

>> I didn't see any links which I couldn't click ...
> Right now I cannot reproduce that - thats the worst thing. It must depend
> on some other things, but I don't know yet what exactly. Anyway I saw
> such
> behaviour several times, and it's really annoying.
> Myabe viewing my "movie" will help someone tracking the real problem
> here,
> Probably my settings from Multimedia tab will be usueful here: Enable
> plugins=off, Enbale java=off, and rest are on.

If you had plugins enabled, then it might be comprehensible. Or some other
cases ... there was a recent case where a recipe site had a transparent
div over the middle column of their page, the links half-way down the page
were unclickable because Opera considered the div as being above them.
(They had embedded a "sticky note" graphic in the middle of the page, but
the containing div covered half the page.)

But as I said, I didn't see any problems there.

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From:R.A.G. Seely
Subject:Re: Non-active links under invisble flash
Date:Thu, 09 Dec 2004 01:52:26 GMT
"Steven V. Gunhouse" wrote in
news:opsip93qhspivp3f@cybermax:

> But as I said, I didn't see any problems there.

FWIW - If I disable Proxomitron (which hid the flash advert for me
the first time I tried to load the page at http://skocz.pl/noflash) I
can see the flash, and if I close the flash, the urls previously
hidden by it are in fact no longer active. (They were all active
when I first loaded the page with Proxomitron active - so this is
definitely related to the flash being loaded with the page.)

Another good reason to surf with Proxomitron active ... ;=}

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From:Steven V. Gunhouse
Subject:Re: Non-active links under invisble flash
Date:Thu, 09 Dec 2004 12:54:14 GMT
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 01:52:26 GMT, R.A.G. Seely
wrote:

> "Steven V. Gunhouse" wrote in
> news:opsip93qhspivp3f@cybermax:
>
>> But as I said, I didn't see any problems there.
>
> FWIW - If I disable Proxomitron (which hid the flash advert for me
> the first time I tried to load the page at http://skocz.pl/noflash) I
> can see the flash, and if I close the flash, the urls previously
> hidden by it are in fact no longer active. (They were all active
> when I first loaded the page with Proxomitron active - so this is
> definitely related to the flash being loaded with the page.)
>
> Another good reason to surf with Proxomitron active ... ;=}
>

Must be one of those rotating ads - it wasn't there the previous times I
looked.

I have seen sites which handle disappearing Flash content properly, that
page does not. If I start selecting text and drag from outside where the
Flash used to be to inside that area, everything back to the beginning of
the text and even the nav links on the left gets selected. As far as Opera
is concerned, that region of the page appears before the text. So in other
words, the Flash is gone but the div it was in is still there.

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