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 | | From: | ua | | Subject: | Desired functions | | Date: | Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:59:07 +0100 |
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 | Hello,
I like Opera, but I have some wishes yet. Maybe, some of the following features are already available, but not in v.7.54 as far as I know.
1. A preview of a POP3 account with the possibility to delete selected messages on the server without downloading them before.
2. If an outbox message is opened for any supplements and then *saved* (not put into the outbox again), it should be moved from the outbox to the draft folder.
3. Even if the automatic line break is deactivated, the quoted lines in the automatically created reply mail should be limited to a length of ca. 70 - 75 characters nevertheless (including the leading ">" character).
Then those lines (mostly) must not be broken again for displaying in a smaller window. Otherwise some of the quoted lines do not longer start with the ">" character in a smaller window - this is not clearly arranged.
4. A selectable folder for the user data.
The following is not so important for me, but would be nice:
5. If a message in the draft folder is doubleclicked, a new window is opened even if that draft is still open in a former window. This former window should come up instead.
6. If a website is not available, a default error page should appear instead of a message dialog.
7. A ras dialup function would be nice.
Sorry for that long list, but I thought the Opera developers could be interested in feedback.
Best Regards,
Uwe
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| | From: | Wanja Gayk | | Subject: | Re: Desired functions | | Date: | Sun, 9 Jan 2005 16:48:33 +0100 |
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| ua said...
> Hello,
>
> I like Opera, but I have some wishes yet. Maybe, some of the following features are already available, but not in v.7.54 as far as I know.
>
> 1. A preview of a POP3 account with the possibility to delete selected messages on the server without downloading them before.
Maybe like mentioned by me in the opera.mail+news group - only gaining
positive reactions yet, just like my wand-integration proposal last year
(which sadly didn't get implemented - yet?).
> 3. Even if the automatic line break is deactivated, the quoted lines in the automatically created reply mail should be limited to a length of ca. 70 - 75 characters nevertheless (including the leading ">" character).
> Then those lines (mostly) must not be broken again for displaying in a smaller window. Otherwise some of the quoted lines do not longer start with the ">" character in a smaller window - this is not clearly arranged.
It would be nice if the editor did the 78 chars trimming on the fly,
while writing.
btw: the lines you just are oversized aswell (I kept that for
demonstration purposes).
> 6. If a website is not available, a default error page should appear instead of a message dialog.
That's called "Inline error messages". They are part of the new Opera 8
version, it was posted here on opera.wishlist aswell and I'm gracious
that the actually did implement it.
Greets,
-Wanja-
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| | From: | Steven V. Gunhouse | | Subject: | Re: Desired functions | | Date: | Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:02:43 GMT |
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| On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:59:07 +0100, ua wrote:
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> 4. A selectable folder for the user data.
Already possible, mostly. The file opera6.ini tells Opera where every
other file it needs is located, so if you manually edit opera6.ini then
you can move all your other files wherever you want. Of course, you can't
specify where to find opera6.ini in a file somewhere, you'd need to add it
to the command line.
That is the problem with a user-selectable folder for the user data -
where do you store the selection so that Opera can find everything else?
To make Opera (for Windows anyway) use a specific file in place of the
default location, you can edit the shortcut (either on the menu,
quicklaunch, or desktop) so that the commandline reads
(path to opera program)\opera.exe /settings (path to new)\opera6.ini
.... whatever the appropriate paths are there.
> 6. If a website is not available, a default error page should appear
> instead of a message dialog.
Already fixed in 8.0 B1.
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| | From: | Tim | | Subject: | Re: Desired functions | | Date: | Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:02:06 +1030 |
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| On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 09:59:07 +0100,
ua posted:
> 3. Even if the automatic line break is deactivated, the quoted lines in the automatically created reply mail should be limited to a length of ca. 70 - 75 characters nevertheless (including the leading ">" character).
> Then those lines (mostly) must not be broken again for displaying in a smaller window. Otherwise some of the quoted lines do not longer start with the ">" character in a smaller window - this is not clearly arranged.
Quoting should be verbatim, until the user decides it's best to rewrap
them, on a case by case basis. This not-only means that words deliberately
formatted in some way remain that way (I could easily demonstrate that with
a table of figures, in plain text, which becomes utter nonsense if it's
wrapped), but doing so will *also* mean that rubbish in = rubbish out (as
how I've quoted your extraordinarily *TOO* long lines of text,
approximately three times the length of mine).
Now, on a decent client, it can rewrap such things (if desired) while
reading them, and properly do so with the correct ">" quote prefix
indicators, no matter how long the lines are in the received message,
without actually mangling the content of the message during the reply (just
rearranging the *display* of it when you view the message).
This sort of thing:
> Otherwise some of the quoted lines do not longer start with the ">"
> character in a smaller window
Is merely down to poor behaviour with the application handling that
message, later on.
Your line breaking preferences *should* be restricted to the text that
you're typing. For an example of a user-agent with almost the best editor,
and quoting, of the lot, try out how Forte Inc's Agent handles such text.
Quotes are verbatim, but you can edit them. You really do send what you
type, exactly as it appears in the message editor (so you can edit
something, and know what the end result will be, without any guesswork or
presumptions). Ritlab's "The Bat!" also is quite good. It'll quote
verbatim, but let you easily rewrap their text in one go. And both of them
let you edit your own messages rather like in a word processor (no dumb
hard wrapping of lines in a paragraph - you can type into the middle of
one, and your following text will flow around like it should).
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