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 | | From: | Merlin Moncure | | Subject: | Re: Pervasive PostgreSQL Announcement | | Date: | Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:08:42 -0500 |
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 | > Man, y'all are a tough crowd. I'll bring it up, but no promises...
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Indeed. I'm a little bit dismayed by the general response from this
list to the announcement by your company. First of all, the trademark
debate is a good discussion, but please don't let it overshadow some of
the bigger issues.
I'd like to say thanks to Pervasive for such a big vote of support for
PostgreSQL which historically has struggled with recognition and
credibility. The information on Pervasive's site could have been lifted
right off of our own advocacy materials, including a very nicely written
open letter to the community which gives due credit to the project and
open source development in general.
I've said it before, but it bears repeating; getting a vote of
confidence from Pervasive is a big deal...maybe the best press I've ever
seen since I've followed the project. It's already started to spin off
into other positive articles in the IT press (many of them with quotes
by Josh). This was perfectly timed with the 8.0 release of Postgres,
which in turn may be one the biggest technical releases of the database
in its history.
Merlin
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| | From: | Andrew Sullivan | | Subject: | Re: Pervasive PostgreSQL Announcement | | Date: | Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:53:46 -0500 |
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| On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 10:08:42AM -0500, Merlin Moncure wrote:
> Indeed. I'm a little bit dismayed by the general response from this
> list to the announcement by your company.
I'll second that.
> I'd like to say thanks to Pervasive for such a big vote of support for
> PostgreSQL which historically has struggled with recognition and
> credibility. The information on Pervasive's site could have been lifted
And second this, too. In my not terribly humble opinion, the
announcement is both extremely good news, and a clear case where the
BSD license helps everyone. Expanding the kinds of offerings there
are, including to commercial, enterprise-focussed stuff like
Pervasive is offering, is just the best news I've heard in some time;
and it can be done without the dancing through hoops of having two
licenses.
I may not take seriously the kinds of recommendations that come from
eweek, Gartner, Network World, and other such Big Names who Talk With
Plenty o' Authority. But I'm painfully aware that their views are
formed as much by the financial and PR profile behind a piece of
software as they are by the actual features and track record. If
that were the only reason to be happy about Pervasive's announcement,
I would be. But as it is, Pervasive also seems genuinely to want to
contribute. That's even better news. Three cheers, I say.
Oh, and I cracked up at the elephant roar.
A
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Andrew Sullivan | ajs@crankycanuck.ca
The plural of anecdote is not data.
--Roger Brinner
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| | From: | elein | | Subject: | Re: Pervasive PostgreSQL Announcement | | Date: | Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:52:01 -0800 |
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| On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 01:53:46PM -0500, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 10:08:42AM -0500, Merlin Moncure wrote:
> > Indeed. I'm a little bit dismayed by the general response from this
> > list to the announcement by your company.
>
> I'll second that.
>
> > I'd like to say thanks to Pervasive for such a big vote of support for
> > PostgreSQL which historically has struggled with recognition and
> > credibility. The information on Pervasive's site could have been lifted
>
> And second this, too. In my not terribly humble opinion, the
> announcement is both extremely good news, and a clear case where the
> BSD license helps everyone. Expanding the kinds of offerings there
> are, including to commercial, enterprise-focussed stuff like
> Pervasive is offering, is just the best news I've heard in some time;
> and it can be done without the dancing through hoops of having two
> licenses.
>
> I may not take seriously the kinds of recommendations that come from
> eweek, Gartner, Network World, and other such Big Names who Talk With
> Plenty o' Authority. But I'm painfully aware that their views are
> formed as much by the financial and PR profile behind a piece of
> software as they are by the actual features and track record. If
> that were the only reason to be happy about Pervasive's announcement,
> I would be. But as it is, Pervasive also seems genuinely to want to
> contribute. That's even better news. Three cheers, I say.
>
> Oh, and I cracked up at the elephant roar.
>
> A
>
> --
> Andrew Sullivan | ajs@crankycanuck.ca
> The plural of anecdote is not data.
> --Roger Brinner
>
All agreed, except I still think the elephant eye is creepy :-)
--elein
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