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 | | From: | Serguei A. Mokhov | | Subject: | Re: [pgsql-hackers] Daily digest v1.4918 (23 messages) | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:23:33 -0500 (EST) |
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 | > On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 18:43 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: >> I have already >> suggested to core that we should insist on 8.1 not requiring an initdb, >> so as to ensure that people will migrate up to it easily from 8.0.
> So is it firm policy that changes that require a catversion update > cannot be made during the 8.1 cycle?
Not yet --- I suggested it but didn't get any yeas or nays. I don't feel this is solely core's decision anyway ... what do the assembled hackers think?
>> (Needless to say, it would be good to get this sorted out early on in >> the 8.1 development cycle, to avoid the need to revert patches at some >> point down the line. For those of us working on large projects that >> will definitely require an initdb, it would also be good to know -- as >> this policy will likely prevent that work from getting into 8.1)
>Yes, it has to be decided one way or the other soon.
>One way to have our cake and eat it too would be for someone to >resurrect pg_upgrade during this devel cycle. Anyone feel like >working on that?
Yup. I feel like working on that and not just feel as I been noising about it in the recent past. In fact I have opend a pgfoundry project for that exact work.
> regards, tom lane
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 | | From: | Michael Adler | | Subject: | livejournal outage post mortem | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:52:01 -0500 |
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 | (only tangentally on topic)
Interesting tail on the problems of MyISAM tables, disk write-caching, and sharing space with people who can't resist pushing the big red button. Only tangentally on topic.
http://www.livejournal.com/community/lj_dev/670215.html
I wonder what livejournal would look like if they used pg instead mysql. They had to figure out some ways of working around the pessimistic locking of the non-MVCC approach, but they've also made use of the replication features that might not have been available until recently in pg.
http://www.danga.com/words/2004_mysqlcon/mysql-slides.pdf
-Mike Adler
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