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 | | From: | Joshua D. Drake | | Subject: | 8.1 development cycle (was a couple of other threads ;)) | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:15:56 -0800 |
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Hello,
On a slightly different note in regards to the development
cycle. I am authoring a new book and it would be helpful
to know the approximate completion of the dev cycle.
If the dev cycle is going to be really short, are we expecting
a more traditional 12-16 month 8.2?
J
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| | From: | Marc G. Fournier | | Subject: | Re: 8.1 development cycle (was a couple of other threads | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:54:48 -0400 (AST) |
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| On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On a slightly different note in regards to the development
> cycle. I am authoring a new book and it would be helpful
> to know the approximate completion of the dev cycle.
>
> If the dev cycle is going to be really short, are we expecting
> a more traditional 12-16 month 8.2?
That seems to be the norm ... my feel for discussions so far is that 8.1's
focus is going to be primarily replacing ARC, and anything else that might
slip in ...
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| | From: | Jaime Casanova | | Subject: | TIP9 | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:34:58 -0600 (CST) |
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| > TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose
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Hi,
sorry for using this list, but is not time to change
this TIP for something more suitable to the new PG8
capabilities?
regards,
Jaime Casanova
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| | From: | Joshua D. Drake | | Subject: | Re: TIP9 | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:25:08 -0800 |
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Jaime Casanova wrote:
>>TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose
>>an index scan if your
>> joining column's datatypes do not match
>>
>>
>>
>
>Hi,
>
>sorry for using this list, but is not time to change
>this TIP for something more suitable to the new PG8
>capabilities?
>
>
Is this still not the case for pg8? I know it is better
about casting in general for use with int8 etc... but don't the
column datatypes still have to match?
>regards,
>Jaime Casanova
>
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| | From: | Jaime Casanova | | Subject: | Re: TIP9 | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:18:47 -0600 (CST) |
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| --- "Joshua D. Drake"
escribió:
> Jaime Casanova wrote:
>
> >>TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to
> choose
> >>an index scan if your
> >> joining column's datatypes do not match
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >sorry for using this list, but is not time to
> change
> >this TIP for something more suitable to the new PG8
> >capabilities?
> >
> >
> Is this still not the case for pg8? I know it is
> better
> about casting in general for use with int8 etc...
> but don't the
> column datatypes still have to match?
>
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2004-11/msg00497.php
???
regards,
Jaime Casanova
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| | From: | Marc G. Fournier | | Subject: | Re: 8.1 development cycle (was a couple of other threads | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:46:31 -0400 (AST) |
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| On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> On a slightly different note in regards to the development
>>> cycle. I am authoring a new book and it would be helpful
>>> to know the approximate completion of the dev cycle.
>>>
>>> If the dev cycle is going to be really short, are we expecting
>>> a more traditional 12-16 month 8.2?
>>
>>
>> That seems to be the norm ... my feel for discussions so far is that 8.1's
>> focus is going to be primarily replacing ARC, and anything else that might
>> slip in ...
>
> So are we looking at a 8.1 in June and a 8.2 in say August of 2006?
I'd say that was a safe bet ... 8.1, we're looking at a 4 month dev/beta
cycle, so end of May, start of Junefor release ... based on current
trends, I'd say following June for beta of 8.2, and then "however long"
after that for release, so between Aug and Nov :)
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| | From: | Joshua D. Drake | | Subject: | Re: 8.1 development cycle (was a couple of other threads | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:23:10 -0800 |
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Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> On a slightly different note in regards to the development
>> cycle. I am authoring a new book and it would be helpful
>> to know the approximate completion of the dev cycle.
>>
>> If the dev cycle is going to be really short, are we expecting
>> a more traditional 12-16 month 8.2?
>
>
> That seems to be the norm ... my feel for discussions so far is that
> 8.1's focus is going to be primarily replacing ARC, and anything else
> that might slip in ...
So are we looking at a 8.1 in June and a 8.2 in say August of 2006?
Or something else?
I know that it is hard to completely pin these things down but it would
be really
helpful :)
J
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| | From: | Christopher Kings-Lynne | | Subject: | Re: 8.1 development cycle (was a couple of other threads | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:23:22 +0000 |
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| > So are we looking at a 8.1 in June and a 8.2 in say August of 2006?
>
> Or something else?
>
> I know that it is hard to completely pin these things down but it would
> be really
> helpful :)
I really don't know why this short dev cycle thing keeps coming back...
People don't want to upgrade their major production database servers
every 6 months. It'll be 6 months at my work before we move off 7.4,
and that's only because they have a reasonable postgres expert onsite
(me)...
Chris
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| | From: | Robert Treat | | Subject: | Re: 8.1 development cycle (was a couple of other threads | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:36:50 -0500 |
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| On Sunday 23 January 2005 05:23, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
> > So are we looking at a 8.1 in June and a 8.2 in say August of 2006?
> >
> > Or something else?
> >
> > I know that it is hard to completely pin these things down but it would
> > be really
> > helpful :)
>
> I really don't know why this short dev cycle thing keeps coming back...
> People don't want to upgrade their major production database servers
> every 6 months. It'll be 6 months at my work before we move off 7.4,
> and that's only because they have a reasonable postgres expert onsite
> (me)...
>
Because there is a strong desire to get rid of ARC ASAP. Which I am
comfortable with IF there is an agreement that 8.1 wont require an initdb. I
certainly can't take down my production servers for the amount of time needed
for dump/reload, so if that is going to be required then I'm sure we'll not
do an upgrade until 8.1 is released, and I'd imagine a lot of others would
fall into this as well.
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| | From: | Marc G. Fournier | | Subject: | Re: 8.1 development cycle (was a couple of other threads | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:17:11 -0400 (AST) |
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| On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Robert Treat wrote:
> On Sunday 23 January 2005 05:23, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
>>> So are we looking at a 8.1 in June and a 8.2 in say August of 2006?
>>>
>>> Or something else?
>>>
>>> I know that it is hard to completely pin these things down but it would
>>> be really
>>> helpful :)
>>
>> I really don't know why this short dev cycle thing keeps coming back...
>> People don't want to upgrade their major production database servers
>> every 6 months. It'll be 6 months at my work before we move off 7.4,
>> and that's only because they have a reasonable postgres expert onsite
>> (me)...
>>
>
> Because there is a strong desire to get rid of ARC ASAP. Which I am
> comfortable with IF there is an agreement that 8.1 wont require an initdb. I
> certainly can't take down my production servers for the amount of time needed
> for dump/reload, so if that is going to be required then I'm sure we'll not
> do an upgrade until 8.1 is released, and I'd imagine a lot of others would
> fall into this as well.
Agreed, but there is also a fair amount of ppl that won't upgraded to 8.0
in the first place, and will wait for the first 8.1, and if we can keep
that cycle short enough, waiting the few extra months will be alot easier
for them ...
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