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2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"

2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"  
tgbayes at hotmail.com
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Simon
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Jessica V.
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Ronnie McKinley
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Simon
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Ronnie McKinley
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Marshall Schuon
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Andy Dingley
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Ronnie McKinley
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tgbayes at hotmail.com
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tgbayes at hotmail.com
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Jessica V.
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Ronnie McKinley
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mkolb at sc.tds.net
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Ronnie McKinley
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Jessica V.
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Marshall Schuon
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Andy Dingley
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Marshall Schuon
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Ronnie McKinley
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Simon
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tgbayes at hotmail.com
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Marshall Schuon
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mkolb at sc.tds.net
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Forest Duck
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Ronnie McKinley
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Forest Duck
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Jessica V.
From:tgbayes at hotmail.com
Subject:2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:9 Jan 2005 07:57:21 -0800
Hello!

Recently I have gotten interested in collecting reamers and in my
travels, always have an eye out for them. I have several clear glass
ones w/handles and w/o; none with marks and I'm guessing they're most
likely Anchor Hocking.

HOWEVER, recently I came across two identical glass 2 lipped reamers,
smaller in size than usual, and of a pink/orangey/brown like color (not
sure what to call it). Someone mentioned to me these look similar to
what I think was called a Foster Colony type. I can't find anything on
the web so would appreciate any insight from anyone. I can take a
picture if needed.

Thanks to anyone in advance for any light that might be shed,
T.Bayes, Miami FL.
From:Simon
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:23:32 +1100
Hello T Bayes

As a collector of antique glass and with some knowledge of metalwork I
have no idea what a glass "reamer" is. In metalworking, a reamer is a
tool that enlarges holes.

In antique glass collecting, there is a type of large stemmed glass
about 6" or more tall known as a "rummer", and perhaps it is these you
refer to? If so they would never have a makers mark, since no antique
glass ever does. Top class makers, such as Lalique, since the 1930s
do so occasionally though.

Also a "rummer" never has any handles, though a "goblet" or "chalice"
could do. I don't think they were ever made in coloured glass either.

Not sure if this information is any use, as you may be referring to
some type of glass I havent heard of. A reamer certainly isn't a type
known to European or International collectors.

Simon

On 9 Jan 2005 07:57:21 -0800, tgbayes@hotmail.com wrote:

>Hello!
>
>Recently I have gotten interested in collecting reamers and in my
>travels, always have an eye out for them. I have several clear glass
>ones w/handles and w/o; none with marks and I'm guessing they're most
>likely Anchor Hocking.
>
>HOWEVER, recently I came across two identical glass 2 lipped reamers,
>smaller in size than usual, and of a pink/orangey/brown like color (not
>sure what to call it). Someone mentioned to me these look similar to
>what I think was called a Foster Colony type. I can't find anything on
>the web so would appreciate any insight from anyone. I can take a
>picture if needed.
>
>Thanks to anyone in advance for any light that might be shed,
>T.Bayes, Miami FL.
From:Jessica V.
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:34:35 -0500
Simon wrote:

> Hello T Bayes
>
> As a collector of antique glass and with some knowledge of metalwork I
> have no idea what a glass "reamer" is. In metalworking, a reamer is a
> tool that enlarges holes.
>
> In antique glass collecting, there is a type of large stemmed glass
> about 6" or more tall known as a "rummer", and perhaps it is these you
> refer to? If so they would never have a makers mark, since no antique
> glass ever does. Top class makers, such as Lalique, since the 1930s
> do so occasionally though.
>
> Also a "rummer" never has any handles, though a "goblet" or "chalice"
> could do. I don't think they were ever made in coloured glass either.
>
> Not sure if this information is any use, as you may be referring to
> some type of glass I havent heard of. A reamer certainly isn't a type
> known to European or International collectors.
>
> Simon
>
> On 9 Jan 2005 07:57:21 -0800, tgbayes@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>Hello!
>>
>>Recently I have gotten interested in collecting reamers and in my
>>travels, always have an eye out for them. I have several clear glass
>>ones w/handles and w/o; none with marks and I'm guessing they're most
>>likely Anchor Hocking.
>>
>>HOWEVER, recently I came across two identical glass 2 lipped reamers,
>>smaller in size than usual, and of a pink/orangey/brown like color (not
>>sure what to call it). Someone mentioned to me these look similar to
>>what I think was called a Foster Colony type. I can't find anything on
>>the web so would appreciate any insight from anyone. I can take a
>>picture if needed.
>>
>>Thanks to anyone in advance for any light that might be shed,
>>T.Bayes, Miami FL.
>
>

Another thing that doesn't translate over the pond. Possibly known as
juicers, for extracting juices from citrus fruits.

Jessica
From:Ronnie McKinley
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:24:30 +0000
In rec.antiques "Jessica V." wrote:

>Simon wrote:
>
>> Hello T Bayes
>>
>> As a collector of antique glass and with some knowledge of metalwork I
>> have no idea what a glass "reamer" is. In metalworking, a reamer is a
>> tool that enlarges holes.
>>
>> In antique glass collecting, there is a type of large stemmed glass
>> about 6" or more tall known as a "rummer", and perhaps it is these you
>> refer to? If so they would never have a makers mark, since no antique
>> glass ever does. Top class makers, such as Lalique, since the 1930s
>> do so occasionally though.
>>
>> Also a "rummer" never has any handles, though a "goblet" or "chalice"
>> could do. I don't think they were ever made in coloured glass either.
>>
>> Not sure if this information is any use, as you may be referring to
>> some type of glass I havent heard of. A reamer certainly isn't a type
>> known to European or International collectors.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> On 9 Jan 2005 07:57:21 -0800, tgbayes@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hello!
>>>
>>>Recently I have gotten interested in collecting reamers and in my
>>>travels, always have an eye out for them. I have several clear glass
>>>ones w/handles and w/o; none with marks and I'm guessing they're most
>>>likely Anchor Hocking.
>>>
>>>HOWEVER, recently I came across two identical glass 2 lipped reamers,
>>>smaller in size than usual, and of a pink/orangey/brown like color (not
>>>sure what to call it). Someone mentioned to me these look similar to
>>>what I think was called a Foster Colony type. I can't find anything on
>>>the web so would appreciate any insight from anyone. I can take a
>>>picture if needed.
>>>
>>>Thanks to anyone in advance for any light that might be shed,
>>>T.Bayes, Miami FL.
>>
>>
>
>Another thing that doesn't translate over the pond. Possibly known as
>juicers, for extracting juices from citrus fruits.
>


I think "over here" the only time such objects (lemon squeezer) are
referred to as "reamers" - when it's the hand-held with handle and screw
type and usually (well almost always) made of wood. And then, of course,
they would appeal much more to the treen collector. Most other times,
especially these semi-modern pressed glass type, we generally call them
a lemon squeezer.


BTW. I may be wrong but I'm not sure if the poster Simon is "over the
pond" more like "down-under" as he might be from Oz. Reading his ng
posting headers I'm just guessing.




--
Ronnie
From:Simon
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:18:04 +1100
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:24:30 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

>In rec.antiques "Jessica V." wrote:
>
>>Simon wrote:
>>
>>> Hello T Bayes
>>>
>>> As a collector of antique glass and with some knowledge of metalwork I
>>> have no idea what a glass "reamer" is. In metalworking, a reamer is a
>>> tool that enlarges holes.
>>>
>>> In antique glass collecting, there is a type of large stemmed glass
>>> about 6" or more tall known as a "rummer", and perhaps it is these you
>>> refer to? If so they would never have a makers mark, since no antique
>>> glass ever does. Top class makers, such as Lalique, since the 1930s
>>> do so occasionally though.
>>>
>>> Also a "rummer" never has any handles, though a "goblet" or "chalice"
>>> could do. I don't think they were ever made in coloured glass either.
>>>
>>> Not sure if this information is any use, as you may be referring to
>>> some type of glass I havent heard of. A reamer certainly isn't a type
>>> known to European or International collectors.
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> On 9 Jan 2005 07:57:21 -0800, tgbayes@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello!
>>>>
>>>>Recently I have gotten interested in collecting reamers and in my
>>>>travels, always have an eye out for them. I have several clear glass
>>>>ones w/handles and w/o; none with marks and I'm guessing they're most
>>>>likely Anchor Hocking.
>>>>
>>>>HOWEVER, recently I came across two identical glass 2 lipped reamers,
>>>>smaller in size than usual, and of a pink/orangey/brown like color (not
>>>>sure what to call it). Someone mentioned to me these look similar to
>>>>what I think was called a Foster Colony type. I can't find anything on
>>>>the web so would appreciate any insight from anyone. I can take a
>>>>picture if needed.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks to anyone in advance for any light that might be shed,
>>>>T.Bayes, Miami FL.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Another thing that doesn't translate over the pond. Possibly known as
>>juicers, for extracting juices from citrus fruits.
>>
>
>
>I think "over here" the only time such objects (lemon squeezer) are
>referred to as "reamers" - when it's the hand-held with handle and screw
>type and usually (well almost always) made of wood. And then, of course,
>they would appeal much more to the treen collector. Most other times,
>especially these semi-modern pressed glass type, we generally call them
>a lemon squeezer.
>
>
>BTW. I may be wrong but I'm not sure if the poster Simon is "over the
>pond" more like "down-under" as he might be from Oz. Reading his ng
>posting headers I'm just guessing.

I suppose the term "reamer" makes sense in that the articles are used
to "ream out" the contents of the fruit.

Yes, you are right, my posting comes from Oz though I am English in
origin. We are over a pond from the US (Pacific)!

Simon
From:Ronnie McKinley
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:51:19 +0000
In rec.antiques Simon wrote:


>Yes, you are right, my posting comes from Oz though I am English in
>origin.

English!! ah well never mind, we all have our cross to bear.

>We are over a pond from the US (Pacific)!

Could be worse. At least there's some water in between, could be like
the poor old Canadians.


;>)





--
Ronnie
From:Marshall Schuon
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:58:02 -0500
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:51:19 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

>In rec.antiques Simon wrote:
>
>
>>Yes, you are right, my posting comes from Oz though I am English in
>>origin.
>
>English!! ah well never mind, we all have our cross to bear.
>
>>We are over a pond from the US (Pacific)!
>
>Could be worse. At least there's some water in between, could be like
>the poor old Canadians.
>
>
> ;>)
_______

Hee hee.

M.
From:Andy Dingley
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:23:07 +0000
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:23:32 +1100, Simon
wrote:

I was puzzled by the "reamer" too.

>Also a "rummer" never has any handles, though a "goblet" or "chalice"
>could do. I don't think they were ever made in coloured glass either.

I'm in Bristol. Around here (Bristol and Bath) there are a great many
original rummers made from Bristol's famous blue glass. Usually
they're a clear bowl on a blue foot.
From:Ronnie McKinley
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:42:03 +0000
In rec.antiques Andy Dingley wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:23:32 +1100, Simon
>wrote:
>
>I was puzzled by the "reamer" too.
>
>>Also a "rummer" never has any handles, though a "goblet" or "chalice"
>>could do. I don't think they were ever made in coloured glass either.
>
>I'm in Bristol. Around here (Bristol and Bath) there are a great many
>original rummers made from Bristol's famous blue glass. Usually
>they're a clear bowl on a blue foot.


As we're on the subject of 'rummers' and lemon-squeezers here's a rather
nice 'rummer' - which will probably confuse the hell out of the
Americans

http://www.antique-glass.co.uk/Larger%20pic%20pages/GC353_eng_lemon-squeezer_rummer.htm


and of course 'rummer' is merely a corruption of the German "Römer" - as
the early glasses were used for white Rhine wine and had no connection
with rum.





--
Ronnie
From:tgbayes at hotmail.com
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:10 Jan 2005 18:57:08 -0800
Hi,

I am American and I am confused but my husband is British and he was
not. Nonetheless, I was inquiring about a "REAMER", not a rummer - see
my picture above.

Trudi
From:tgbayes at hotmail.com
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:10 Jan 2005 18:51:45 -0800
Hello Jessica,

I hope I have done this right - if I have, here is a link to a picture
I took of my two lipped/spout reamer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v473/kannonind/DSCN0151.jpg

Again, if I've created the link correctly, any insight is most
appreciated; thanks to all who have responded with their
contributions.

T. Bayes
From:Jessica V.
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:54:53 -0500
tgbayes@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hello Jessica,
>
> I hope I have done this right - if I have, here is a link to a picture
> I took of my two lipped/spout reamer.
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v473/kannonind/DSCN0151.jpg
>
> Again, if I've created the link correctly, any insight is most
> appreciated; thanks to all who have responded with their
> contributions.
>
> T. Bayes
>

Your reamer is made to look like a Fostoria Colony pattern reamer.
However it is new and not made by Fostoria, more than likely it was made
in China and sold by AAA Imports. The real Fostoria Colony reamer was
only made in milk white and clear glass.

The muddy pink color you described in your first post is the typical
color of fake pink depression glass.

When you are buying reamers look for some wear to the bottom rim. These
are items that were used and most show some fine scratches to the
bottom. I've seen wear faked on a lot of fake depression glass. An
easy way to learn what fae wear looks like is to scrape a cheap glass on
the pavement and see what those scratches look and feel like compared to
something that got it's scratches from time and normal use.

For around $25 you can pick up a copy of Gene Florence's book Kitchen
Glassware of the Depression Years. There are photos and note that help
with identification, the price guide aspect of the book has a tendancy
to be the authors pipe dream though.

Jessica
From:Ronnie McKinley
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:52:41 +0000
In rec.antiques "Jessica V." wrote:


>Your reamer is made to look like a Fostoria Colony pattern reamer.
>However it is new and not made by Fostoria, more than likely it was made
>in China and sold by AAA Imports. The real Fostoria Colony reamer was
>only made in milk white and clear glass.
>
>The muddy pink color you described in your first post is the typical
>color of fake pink depression glass.
>


You mean there is actually someone producing FAKE pressed glass lemon
squeezers and attempting to deceive the innocent lemon squeezer
collector and flooding the market with such, crap??!!!!??

Good heavens!!!!!!!!!!!

..... original Fostoria Colony pattern lemon squeezers must be worth a
power of money (or be so rare) in order that someone will actually go to
all the trouble and FAKE them ... and even (in some cases) also FAKE the
bottom with scratch wear!!


Whew!!

How much would these dirty rascals expect to get for their FAKED
Fostoria Colony pattern lemon squeezers?? Geez!! much be a lucrative
market. Sound to me, there would be money to be made in selling these
FAKE ones, than there be in selling the real ones, at least, would be,
"over here."





--
Ronnie
From:mkolb at sc.tds.net
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:24:20 GMT
>How much would these dirty rascals expect to get for their FAKED
>Fostoria Colony pattern lemon squeezers?? Geez!! much be a lucrative
>market. Sound to me, there would be money to be made in selling these
>FAKE ones, than there be in selling the real ones, at least, would be,
>"over here."



Ronnie, you may have been being sarcastic when you said this but it is
a fact that in flea markets here you can pass tables full of
relatively inexpensive FAKE stuff made in China yesterday. I guess if
you sell enough of it, it is worthwhile to someone. This really isn't
a problem when you see 10 of them sitting on a table at a flea market
but it is a problem when they hit the secondary market and are sold at
inflated prices to a collector who doesn't know how to spot them.

Maryann

"Anything can be anywhere!"
From:Ronnie McKinley
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:22:31 +0000
In rec.antiques mkolb@sc.tds.net wrote:

>>How much would these dirty rascals expect to get for their FAKED
>>Fostoria Colony pattern lemon squeezers?? Geez!! much be a lucrative
>>market. Sound to me, there would be money to be made in selling these
>>FAKE ones, than there be in selling the real ones, at least, would be,
>>"over here."
>
>
>
>Ronnie, you may have been being sarcastic when you said this but it is
>a fact that in flea markets here you can pass tables full of
>relatively inexpensive FAKE stuff made in China yesterday.

FAKE !! .... me thinks you give way too much credit to such tat by
calling them fake.

The subject matter is machine made mass-produced **press glass**
whichever which way you like to cut it. 1930s semi-modern tat or 1990s
up-to-date tat - I see very little difference in either, other than of
course in age.


--
Your Sarcastically,


Ronnie
--
Ronnie
From:Jessica V.
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:23:42 -0500
mkolb@sc.tds.net wrote:
>>How much would these dirty rascals expect to get for their FAKED
>>Fostoria Colony pattern lemon squeezers?? Geez!! much be a lucrative
>>market. Sound to me, there would be money to be made in selling these
>>FAKE ones, than there be in selling the real ones, at least, would be,
>>"over here."
>
>
>
>
> Ronnie, you may have been being sarcastic when you said this but it is
> a fact that in flea markets here you can pass tables full of
> relatively inexpensive FAKE stuff made in China yesterday. I guess if
> you sell enough of it, it is worthwhile to someone. This really isn't
> a problem when you see 10 of them sitting on a table at a flea market
> but it is a problem when they hit the secondary market and are sold at
> inflated prices to a collector who doesn't know how to spot them.
>
> Maryann
>
> "Anything can be anywhere!"
>
>

Fake as in intended to be deceptive. Folks spend decent amounts on
money on lots of pre-fifties household goods in the states. A good many
of the juicers are a couple hundred bucks a pop.

Would I spring $3000.00 for a frying pan, no. But there are people who
will and that pan has been faked recently too. It's a real pan but is a
fake Griswold.

Jessica
From:Marshall Schuon
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:49:01 -0500
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:23:42 -0500, "Jessica V." wrote:

>mkolb@sc.tds.net wrote:
>>>How much would these dirty rascals expect to get for their FAKED
>>>Fostoria Colony pattern lemon squeezers?? Geez!! much be a lucrative
>>>market. Sound to me, there would be money to be made in selling these
>>>FAKE ones, than there be in selling the real ones, at least, would be,
>>>"over here."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ronnie, you may have been being sarcastic when you said this but it is
>> a fact that in flea markets here you can pass tables full of
>> relatively inexpensive FAKE stuff made in China yesterday. I guess if
>> you sell enough of it, it is worthwhile to someone. This really isn't
>> a problem when you see 10 of them sitting on a table at a flea market
>> but it is a problem when they hit the secondary market and are sold at
>> inflated prices to a collector who doesn't know how to spot them.
>>
>> Maryann
>>
>> "Anything can be anywhere!"
>>
>>
>
>Fake as in intended to be deceptive. Folks spend decent amounts on
>money on lots of pre-fifties household goods in the states. A good many
>of the juicers are a couple hundred bucks a pop.
>
>Would I spring $3000.00 for a frying pan, no. But there are people who
>will and that pan has been faked recently too. It's a real pan but is a
>fake Griswold.
>
>Jessica
_______

Ahah. I just bought me yesterday a real No. 2 Griswold frying pan! I
am forever looking for these, but this is only the third that I've
seen in the flesh. The first brought $1,100 at an auction in Bucks
County (Pennsylvania), and I dropped out of the bidding on the last
one at $350. This time, only one other guy was bidding against me,
and I expect the rest of the benighted crowd wondered just what in
hell they were missing. Great fun, what?

Marshall
From:Andy Dingley
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:54:00 +0000
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:49:01 -0500, Marshall Schuon
wrote:

>Ahah. I just bought me yesterday a real No. 2 Griswold frying pan! I
>am forever looking for these,

What's the attraction with Griswold ? Is it rarity, an aesthetic
thing, or are they seen as the best thing to cook with ? I'm quite
fond of my le Creuset pans, for they help me to make nice food, but I
can't ever imagine getting excited over collecting one.
--
Smert' spamionam
From:Marshall Schuon
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:55:39 -0500
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:54:00 +0000, Andy Dingley
wrote:

>On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:49:01 -0500, Marshall Schuon
>wrote:
>
>>Ahah. I just bought me yesterday a real No. 2 Griswold frying pan! I
>>am forever looking for these,
>
>What's the attraction with Griswold ? Is it rarity, an aesthetic
>thing, or are they seen as the best thing to cook with ? I'm quite
>fond of my le Creuset pans, for they help me to make nice food, but I
>can't ever imagine getting excited over collecting one.
______

Griswold just is the most collectible when it comes to American cast
iron kitchen items -- pans, waffle irons, dutch ovens, etc. Don't
know why. The Erie, Pa., company started in 1865 and ultimately was
bought out by its chief competitor, Wagner, in 1957. The companies'
products were much the same, probably in quality as well as design,
but when you are buying to sell, always go for the Griswold.

Marshall
From:Ronnie McKinley
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:38:29 +0000
In rec.antiques "Jessica V." wrote:

>mkolb@sc.tds.net wrote:
>>>How much would these dirty rascals expect to get for their FAKED
>>>Fostoria Colony pattern lemon squeezers?? Geez!! must be a lucrative
>>>market. Sounds to me, there would be more money to be made in selling these
>>>FAKE ones, than there would be in selling the real ones, at least, would be,
>>>"over here."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ronnie, you may have been being sarcastic when you said this but it is
>> a fact that in flea markets here you can pass tables full of
>> relatively inexpensive FAKE stuff made in China yesterday. I guess if
>> you sell enough of it, it is worthwhile to someone. This really isn't
>> a problem when you see 10 of them sitting on a table at a flea market
>> but it is a problem when they hit the secondary market and are sold at
>> inflated prices to a collector who doesn't know how to spot them.
>>
>> Maryann
>>
>> "Anything can be anywhere!"
>>
>>
>
>Fake as in intended to be deceptive.

"intended to be deceptive" LOL - So are you claiming the Chinese
manufactures of these pieces of pressed glass are deliberately producing
misleading and deceptive articles (American depression glass FAKES) in
order to dupe a niche USA market of pressed glass "juicer/reamer"
collectors?


Are you serious?!!!?


> A good many
>of the juicers are a couple hundred bucks a pop.
>

So you are saying this "Fostoria Colony pattern reamer" -the one in
question- is worth "a couple of hundred bucks" if right? So how much do
these Chinese rascals and their importer cohorts sell their FAKE ones
for? How much do they expect to get out of the deal? If something is
worth **faking** then there must be large profits involved, otherwise
what's the point?


>snip the unrelated frying pan bull>


Me thinks you've lost the plot. If you ever had the plot to begin with.









--
Ronnie
From:Simon
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:57:25 +1100
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:52:41 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

>In rec.antiques "Jessica V." wrote:
>
>
>>Your reamer is made to look like a Fostoria Colony pattern reamer.
>>However it is new and not made by Fostoria, more than likely it was made
>>in China and sold by AAA Imports. The real Fostoria Colony reamer was
>>only made in milk white and clear glass.
>>
>>The muddy pink color you described in your first post is the typical
>>color of fake pink depression glass.
>>
>
>
>You mean there is actually someone producing FAKE pressed glass lemon
>squeezers and attempting to deceive the innocent lemon squeezer
>collector and flooding the market with such, crap??!!!!??
>
>Good heavens!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>.... original Fostoria Colony pattern lemon squeezers must be worth a
>power of money (or be so rare) in order that someone will actually go to
>all the trouble and FAKE them ... and even (in some cases) also FAKE the
>bottom with scratch wear!!
>
>
>Whew!!
>
>How much would these dirty rascals expect to get for their FAKED
>Fostoria Colony pattern lemon squeezers?? Geez!! much be a lucrative
>market. Sound to me, there would be money to be made in selling these
>FAKE ones, than there be in selling the real ones, at least, would be,
>"over here."

Does all this mean that there is no demand for new squeezers as normal
kitchen equipment, never mind being "fakes"? Surely the most effective
and therefore most collectable design would be the one to copy?

There must still be people such as myself who for occasional use
prefer to use a pattern where the only risk of failure is throwing it
at a brick wall rather than a complex electric gadget?

Simon
From:tgbayes at hotmail.com
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:13 Jan 2005 19:02:36 -0800
Thank you very much Jessica, I appreciate your info.....and when I
started to look at it closer, I had a feeling it was not the real deal.
I'm glad to say that I did not pay much and if anything, it was fun
finding it and investigating! Maybe one day I will come across a nice
authentic black reamer - I see those can be quite the find!

I am new to collecting and hence, new to these boards and I'd just like
say that I did not intend for my post to spur any sort of bickering.
Thank you all.
From:Marshall Schuon
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:52:05 -0500
On 13 Jan 2005 19:02:36 -0800, tgbayes@hotmail.com wrote:

>Thank you very much Jessica, I appreciate your info.....and when I
>started to look at it closer, I had a feeling it was not the real deal.
>I'm glad to say that I did not pay much and if anything, it was fun
>finding it and investigating! Maybe one day I will come across a nice
>authentic black reamer - I see those can be quite the find!
>
>I am new to collecting and hence, new to these boards and I'd just like
>say that I did not intend for my post to spur any sort of bickering.
>Thank you all.
_______

Bickering? Are you talking to US? Ho, ho. You ain't SEEN bickering.

M.
From:mkolb at sc.tds.net
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:13:39 GMT
> am new to collecting and hence, new to these boards and I'd just like
>say that I did not intend for my post to spur any sort of bickering.
>Thank you all.

No need to apologize. We do this all the time-- with or without
anyone's help.

Maryann

"Anything can be anywhere!"
From:Forest Duck
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:33:10 -0600

wrote in message news:41e7c4c8.639328@news.tds.net...
>> am new to collecting and hence, new to these boards and I'd just like
>>say that I did not intend for my post to spur any sort of bickering.
>>Thank you all.
>
> No need to apologize. We do this all the time-- with or without
> anyone's help.
>
> Maryann
>
> "Anything can be anywhere!"
>
>No we don't! Well, maybe a little bit. On the other hand , maybe we do.
>However,
Its the fault of the Irish.

--
May the road rise to meet you,
May the wind be always at your back,
May the Sun shine warmly upon your face,
And may you be in heaven 30 minutes
before the Devil knows you are dead!
Ahh, it feels good to lie down when you are old and tired. (:>)

--
Texas Lurker
Bob Hay
forkaduck@yahoo.com.
From:Ronnie McKinley
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:10:43 +0000
In rec.antiques "Forest Duck" wrote:


>Its the fault of the Irish.
>
>--
>May the road rise to meet you,
>May the wind be always at your back,
>May the Sun shine warmly upon your face,
>And may you be in heaven 30 minutes
> before the Devil knows you are dead!
>Ahh, it feels good to lie down when you are old and tired. (:>)



"To town ae morn, as Lizie hie'd
To sell a pickle yarn,
A wanton Whiteret she espy'd,
A sportin at a cairn.
Alang the heath beskirted green,
It play'd wi' monie a wheel;
She stood and dighted baith her een,
An' thought it was the Diel
She saw at freaks!


"But soon her doubts were a' dismis't
A gled cam whist'ling by,
And seiz'd the weazle:- ere it wist,
'Twas halfway at the sky.
But soon the goss grew feeble like,
And syne began to fa',
Till down he daded on a dyke,
His thrapple ate in twa;
Let him snuff that.


"The weazle aff in triumph walks,
An' left the bloodless glutton,
A warning sad to future hawks
That grien for weazle's mutton.
So reprobates, that spitefu' cross,
Decree their nibour's ruin,
Are often forc'd, like foolish goss,
To drink o' their ain brewin',
Wha say its wrang. "





--
Ronnie
From:Forest Duck
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:10:23 -0600

"Ronnie McKinley" wrote in message
news:unrfu0pjsmfu0f3ep7ptusg5httqtr7l1i@4ax.com...
> In rec.antiques "Forest Duck" wrote:
>
>
>>Its the fault of the Irish.
>>
>>--
>>May the road rise to meet you,
>>May the wind be always at your back,
>>May the Sun shine warmly upon your face,
>>And may you be in heaven 30 minutes
>> before the Devil knows you are dead!
>>Ahh, it feels good to lie down when you are old and tired. (:>)
>
>
>
> "To town ae morn, as Lizie hie'd
> To sell a pickle yarn,
> A wanton Whiteret she espy'd,
> A sportin at a cairn.
> Alang the heath beskirted green,
> It play'd wi' monie a wheel;
> She stood and dighted baith her een,
> An' thought it was the Diel
> She saw at freaks!
>
>
> "But soon her doubts were a' dismis't
> A gled cam whist'ling by,
> And seiz'd the weazle:- ere it wist,
> 'Twas halfway at the sky.
> But soon the goss grew feeble like,
> And syne began to fa',
> Till down he daded on a dyke,
> His thrapple ate in twa;
> Let him snuff that.
>
>
> "The weazle aff in triumph walks,
> An' left the bloodless glutton,
> A warning sad to future hawks
> That grien for weazle's mutton.
> So reprobates, that spitefu' cross,
> Decree their nibour's ruin,
> Are often forc'd, like foolish goss,
> To drink o' their ain brewin',
> Wha say its wrang. "
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Ronnie

Very Nice Ronnie. well said!
I admit I am a hawk sometimes.

--
Texas Lurker
Bob Hay
forkaduck@yahoo.com
From:Jessica V.
Subject:Re: 2 Lipped Reamer Question for "Newbie"
Date:Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:51:23 -0500
tgbayes@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Recently I have gotten interested in collecting reamers and in my
> travels, always have an eye out for them. I have several clear glass
> ones w/handles and w/o; none with marks and I'm guessing they're most
> likely Anchor Hocking.
>
> HOWEVER, recently I came across two identical glass 2 lipped reamers,
> smaller in size than usual, and of a pink/orangey/brown like color (not
> sure what to call it). Someone mentioned to me these look similar to
> what I think was called a Foster Colony type. I can't find anything on
> the web so would appreciate any insight from anyone. I can take a
> picture if needed.
>
> Thanks to anyone in advance for any light that might be shed,
> T.Bayes, Miami FL.
>

I'm not sure what you mean by two lipped. Is that two spouts? If you
can post a photo to your websapce and post the URL here I image someone
can help you. There are lots of different styles of reamers made out of
a wide variety of materials. You might look into the reamer collectors
society and pick up some books on collectible reamers, the more
desirable pieces have been reproduced heavily. It isn't too difficult
to tell old from new when you know what to look for though.

Jessica
   

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