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Broken Roseville Vase Pricing?

Broken Roseville Vase Pricing?  
Mike Brophy
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Kris Baker
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Andy Dingley
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C.
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Jessica V.
From:Mike Brophy
Subject:Broken Roseville Vase Pricing?
Date:23 Jan 2005 13:10:19 -0800
I have an original Roseville Ixia 8" vase that broke.
It has been epoxied carefully back together (all pieces were
recovered).
Is it too much to expect 15% or 20% of its book value if it's been put
back together? Are there any folks who collect even broken, but nicely
re-assembled Roseville pieces?
I'm not looking to profit from it -- just a fair price for someone who
it might enjoy having it more than me (I'm not a pottery collector nor
interested in pottery).

Thanks.
From:Kris Baker
Subject:Re: Broken Roseville Vase Pricing?
Date:Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:24:43 GMT

"Mike Brophy" wrote in message
news:1106514619.886243.33670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> I have an original Roseville Ixia 8" vase that broke.
> It has been epoxied carefully back together (all pieces were
> recovered).
> Is it too much to expect 15% or 20% of its book value if it's been put
> back together? Are there any folks who collect even broken, but nicely
> re-assembled Roseville pieces?
> I'm not looking to profit from it -- just a fair price for someone who
> it might enjoy having it more than me

$5-$10, if you're lucky.

Such items *can* be professionally restored, and put back into
presentable condition.....and if done well and the piece is
permanently marked as "restored", can sell for 30%-50% of
their retail value.

Unfortunately, you're the owner of a piece that some [blank] tried
to fix.....and they used epoxy? Egads. Has the epoxy turned dark
yellow (yet)? If not, it will. I see a lot of that.

If it had been glued together with something like white glue
(Elmer's), it could be soaked apart and restored. I don't know
if there's much one can do to remove the damage that epoxy
would cause.

> (I'm not a pottery collector nor interested in pottery).
> Thanks.

I hope, if you're the one who epoxied this piece back together, that
you're not insulted by my comments. But like *anything* else,
the rule is "do nothing unless you're an expert".

Kris
From:Andy Dingley
Subject:Re: Broken Roseville Vase Pricing?
Date:Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:35:07 +0000
On 23 Jan 2005 13:10:19 -0800, "Mike Brophy"
wrote:

>I have an original Roseville Ixia 8" vase that broke.
>It has been epoxied carefully back together

Why did you use epoxy, and which epoxy did you use ?

if you act promptly, you _may_ be able to have the epoxy removed.
From:C.
Subject:Re: Broken Roseville Vase Pricing?
Date:Mon, 24 Jan 2005 05:05:39 GMT

"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
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> On 23 Jan 2005 13:10:19 -0800, "Mike Brophy"
> wrote:
>
>>I have an original Roseville Ixia 8" vase that broke.
>>It has been epoxied carefully back together
>
> Why did you use epoxy, and which epoxy did you use ?
>
> if you act promptly, you _may_ be able to have the epoxy removed.

I would agree with Mr. Dingley, and add that it is a large "may".
Repairing pots well has much to do with the preservation of the cleaved
surfaces, and the removal process for the epoxy will have to be done
very carefully.

Perhaps we can take this post to provide some preventative advice. If
you break a valuable pot, and hope to have it restored by a
professional, do a little first aid. First, leave the pieces alone until
you get a suitable box and some tissue. The pot will not get any more
broken laying there, and if you start picking the pieces up in a panic,
you might ruin it further. After you have your box, very carefully pick
each piece up one at a time, wrap it well, put in in the box, and pad
it. Repeat as many times as required without banging the pieces
together. Insure you look under tables, the refrigerator, rugs and what
not to get all the pieces. Then, with a nice soft cloth, carefully sweep
up the dust and tiny fragments, put them in an envelope with the cloth,
and place them in the box. Then, take it to a reputable restoration
specialist.

In broken pieces, the cleaved surface becomes very important, and is
very easily damaged. When it is damaged, the pieces will not reunite
well at all. Do not try to dry fit the pieces yourself, as this is one
of the main causes of damaging the cleaved surface. If this surface is
not protected, the chances of getting a seamless mend diminish rapidly.

There is nothing wrong with trying to learn repair on an Aynsley saucer
that got away from you. However, take valuable pieces to a restoration
specialist. FWIW.

C.
From:Jessica V.
Subject:Re: Broken Roseville Vase Pricing?
Date:Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:43:33 -0500
Mike Brophy wrote:

> I have an original Roseville Ixia 8" vase that broke.
> It has been epoxied carefully back together (all pieces were
> recovered).
> Is it too much to expect 15% or 20% of its book value if it's been put
> back together? Are there any folks who collect even broken, but nicely
> re-assembled Roseville pieces?
> I'm not looking to profit from it -- just a fair price for someone who
> it might enjoy having it more than me (I'm not a pottery collector nor
> interested in pottery).
>
> Thanks.
>

Repaired with epoxy maybe you could get ten or twelve dollars from
someone who wants to use it in decor if it can be turned so that none of
the epoxy job shows. Roseville is one of those things that is common
enough so collectors will rarely settle for a less than perfect piece.

Jessica
   

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