 | | From: | Charles Winters | | Subject: | Will water damage primers? | | Date: | Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:51:18 +0000 (UTC) |
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 | I had a burst water hose on my washing machine, which sits right next to my
reloading bench. Water sprayed all over my stock of bullets, powder and
primers. What a mess. The bullets and their boxes will dry out just fine.
The powder is all in watertight containers but many of the primers got wet.
I'm in the process of letting the primers dry out, still in their boxes of
100. The ambient air in my basement is relatively dry and warm. The
question is, will these primers be any worse for wear after getting wet?
Will they still perform to specification. I presume they will recover
fully, but prefer to listen to others who may have experienced the same
mishap. Any advice would be appreciated. thx - CW
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| | From: | Joseph Oberlander | | Subject: | Re: Will water damage primers? | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:28:45 +0000 (UTC) |
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Charles Winters wrote:
# I had a burst water hose on my washing machine, which sits right next to my
# reloading bench. Water sprayed all over my stock of bullets, powder and
# primers. What a mess. The bullets and their boxes will dry out just fine.
# The powder is all in watertight containers but many of the primers got wet.
Anything that got wet should be replaced. The bullets may or may not
be prone to rust and deposits, but it shouldn't be a big deal - just
use them as plinking ammo until they're gone.
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| | From: | RCM | | Subject: | Re: Will water damage primers? | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 05:54:36 +0000 (UTC) |
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| Joseph Oberlander wrote:
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Move the washing machine to the front poch, where's it's supposed to be....
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| | From: | Frank Logullo | | Subject: | Re: Will water damage primers? | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:42:31 +0000 (UTC) |
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"Charles Winters" wrote in message
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# I had a burst water hose on my washing machine, which sits right next to
my
# reloading bench. Water sprayed all over my stock of bullets, powder and
# primers. What a mess. The bullets and their boxes will dry out just
fine.
# The powder is all in watertight containers but many of the primers got
wet.
#
# I'm in the process of letting the primers dry out, still in their boxes of
# 100. The ambient air in my basement is relatively dry and warm. The
# question is, will these primers be any worse for wear after getting wet?
# Will they still perform to specification. I presume they will recover
# fully, but prefer to listen to others who may have experienced the same
# mishap. Any advice would be appreciated. thx - CW
#
No direct experience but if dried should be OK. I believe primer mixture is
added to primer dispersed in water when primer is made since the wet mixture
will not be shock sensitive. Then they are dried. I do not think that any
of the primer compositions are water soluble or would be extracted by small
amounts of water. Let them dry and test a few.
Frank
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| | From: | Charles Winters | | Subject: | Re: Will water damage primers? | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 05:54:07 +0000 (UTC) |
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| Thanks, Frank. You remind me that primers are manufactured with the priming
compound in paste form, partially dissolved with water, for safety reasons.
Then they are dried out before packaging. Therefore, a little bit of
moisture after the fact should not do any harm once they have fully dried
again. They look normal to the eye, even though they are damp.
If it were just a few primers, it wouldn't be such a problem, but I tend to
buy them by the thousand and just purchased new 1000 piece boxes of 210Ms
and WLRs. Accordingly, I'm gonna dry them all out, put them back on the
shelf and continue reloading and shooting as usual. If I run into any
problems, I'll post a follow up, otherwise, thanks for the advice. - CW
x"Frank Logullo" wrote in message
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# No direct experience but if dried should be OK. I believe primer mixture
is
# added to primer dispersed in water when primer is made since the wet
mixture
# will not be shock sensitive. Then they are dried. I do not think that
any
# of the primer compositions are water soluble or would be extracted by
small
# amounts of water. Let them dry and test a few.
# Frank
#
x
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| | From: | Jim | | Subject: | Re: Will water damage primers? | | Date: | Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:20:15 +0000 (UTC) |
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| I wouldn't bet my life on them. Primers are cheap so I would dispose of
them and buy new ones. Why take a chance?
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| | From: | Ron | | Subject: | Re: Will water damage primers? | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:28:47 +0000 (UTC) |
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Charles Winters wrote:
# I had a burst water hose on my washing machine, which sits right next
to my
# reloading bench. Water sprayed all over my stock of bullets, powder
and
# primers. What a mess. The bullets and their boxes will dry out just
fine.
# The powder is all in watertight containers but many of the primers
got wet.
#
# I'm in the process of letting the primers dry out, still in their
boxes of
# 100. The ambient air in my basement is relatively dry and warm. The
# question is, will these primers be any worse for wear after getting
wet?
# Will they still perform to specification. I presume they will
recover
# fully, but prefer to listen to others who may have experienced the
same
# mishap. Any advice would be appreciated. thx - CW
Load them up for blasting ammo, they will be fine for that.
If in doubt, load a sample from each effected primer pack and load the
primed case in a gun and pull the trigger. Chances are very good that
every one will pop.
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| | From: | Rick Courtright | | Subject: | Re: Will water damage primers? | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:42:39 +0000 (UTC) |
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| Charles Winters wrote:
# question is, will these primers be any worse for wear after getting wet?
# Will they still perform to specification. I presume they will recover
Only one way to find out!
I've read of tests where primers were subjected to all kinds of
elements, including oils that are supposedly deadly to primers, and
those little things are amazingly resilient and hard to kill as long as
they're allowed to dry fully! I'd keep 'em marked for "less important"
use, but wouldn't toss 'em unless they proved unreliable once dried out.
Rick
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| | From: | steve | | Subject: | Re: Will water damage primers? | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:28:29 +0000 (UTC) |
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| Charles, think if your hunting and you spot a buck of a
lifetime, and you drop that hammer, and click goes the
gun! Should I have gotten rid of those old primers? or
what? You would kick yourself then!
Then on the other hand, dry them out, load and few and
head to the gun range.
You make the call!
gud luck, steve in TX.
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| | From: | K Horner | | Subject: | Re: Will water damage primers? | | Date: | Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:20:14 +0000 (UTC) |
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| Dispose of them. You might get away with some but others will surely fail.
It's not worth having to pull bullets, dump powder, and then reload again.
Jeepnik
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| | From: | Harold Burton | | Subject: | Re: Will water damage primers? | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:42:36 +0000 (UTC) |
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# Dispose of them. You might get away with some but others will surely
# fail.
# It's not worth having to pull bullets, dump powder, and then reload again.
#
# Jeepnik
If he's using them just for fun rather than "social"
shooting I'd suggest he load a single batch and try them out. A shooter on
one of the groups I monitor tried to
neutralize a batch of primers with WD-40 recently. After allowing the WD-40
soaked primers to set for several days he loaded a batch for a trial and
they fired 100%. Given that a WD-40 soaking is one of the "old wives" tales
for primer neutralization I'd say that a water splash is probably going to
be harmless. At least it would be a valuable and interesting experiment to
post on the group. Speaking as one whose experiments
over 30+ years of reloading have occasionally required pulling apart a batch
of handloads I'll say it's not really all that much work.
Harold Burton
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| | From: | R.M.R. | | Subject: | Re: Will water damage primers? | | Date: | Mon, 24 Jan 2005 05:54:25 +0000 (UTC) |
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| Primers are tough as Rino hide,takes a lot to kill'em...
Ray,
(Si vis pacem,
para bellum) U.S.A.
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| | From: | thumper | | Subject: | Re: Will water damage primers? | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:43:07 +0000 (UTC) |
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| On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:20:14 +0000 (UTC), "K Horner"
wrote:
#Dispose of them. You might get away with some but others will surely fail.
#It's not worth having to pull bullets, dump powder, and then reload again.
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#Jeepnik
Hmm, I'm cheap. I'd at least try making wax loads out of them
(depending on the primer type). The last primers I had that got
really soaked in a basement flood (and I consequently made wax loads
out of) all went bang after they got finished drying out.
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| | From: | MR | | Subject: | Re: Will water damage primers? | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:42:32 +0000 (UTC) |
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| On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:51:18 +0000 (UTC), "Charles Winters"
wrote:
#I had a burst water hose on my washing machine, which sits right next to my
#reloading bench. Water sprayed all over my stock of bullets, powder and
#primers. What a mess. The bullets and their boxes will dry out just fine.
#The powder is all in watertight containers but many of the primers got wet.
#
#I'm in the process of letting the primers dry out, still in their boxes of
#100. The ambient air in my basement is relatively dry and warm. The
#question is, will these primers be any worse for wear after getting wet?
#Will they still perform to specification. I presume they will recover
#fully, but prefer to listen to others who may have experienced the same
#mishap. Any advice would be appreciated. thx - CW
If you have some benchmarks for your hand loads, you could try a few
and see how it goes. I would guess that the composition of your water
will have an effect more so than if it were distilled water.
MR
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| | From: | Nick Hull | | Subject: | Re: Will water damage primers? | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:42:51 +0000 (UTC) |
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| In article ,
"Charles Winters" wrote:
# I had a burst water hose on my washing machine, which sits right next to my
# reloading bench. Water sprayed all over my stock of bullets, powder and
# primers. What a mess. The bullets and their boxes will dry out just fine.
# The powder is all in watertight containers but many of the primers got wet.
#
# I'm in the process of letting the primers dry out, still in their boxes of
# 100. The ambient air in my basement is relatively dry and warm. The
# question is, will these primers be any worse for wear after getting wet?
# Will they still perform to specification. I presume they will recover
# fully, but prefer to listen to others who may have experienced the same
# mishap. Any advice would be appreciated. thx - CW
Ypu should dry them and load 100 rds of practice ammo, then shoot it and
tell us how many misfires or hangfires etc. I would reserve those
primers for practice, why risk critical ammo with a questionable
component, but I would expect the primers to be 100% after they are
dried thouroughly.
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