 | | From: | Steve at OutdoorFrontiers | | Subject: | Re: Explanation for different uses of shotgun shells? | | Date: | Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:33:26 -0600 |
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 | "B.D.Eames Farrier Service, Oakhurst CA" wrote in
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> "Thompson
> Contenders in rifle calibers are legal since they're technically a
> handgun"
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> Forgive me, but what is a Thompson
> Contender?
> Dave Eames
A Thompson Contender is a single shot, break action pistol that is very
accurate and quite strong in its design. There are interchangable barrels
that enable a shooter to go beyond the limits of conventional pistol
ammunition and shoot calibers that were typically thought of as only
available in rifles.
Examples of this would be .308 and 45/70 rifle cartridges, now shot through
a pistol! Here's a link,
http://www.tcarms.com/contpistol/index.php
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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com
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| | From: | John Hart | | Subject: | Re: Explanation for different uses of shotgun shells? | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:26:32 -0500 |
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| John wrote in
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>>John Hart
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> But notice the ballistics are not as good as a 454. Recoil factor is
> lower, but the gun weighs 33% more and does not push the bullet as
> fast (with factory loads). They did imply it was ok to load a little
> hotter and you can safely do that in a Contender too but that big
> 45-70 case head loaded hotter runs the risk of stretching the frame in
> the Contender
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> Interesting novelty but don't think I want one. Might be interesting
> for shot shells though. You could get a lot of shot in that big case.
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> John
>
I agree with you. I was living in Alaska up until about 5 years ago. The
guy I worked for thought those revolvers we had might make fair bear
protection. They didn't sell. Anybody that has much Alaska experience
isn't going to pack only a handgun for bear protection. We even
chronographed one of the things when we had some in the showcase about 10
years ago. when they were fired, lots of fire and smoke, but velocity was
around 500 fps below what we got out of an 18" Marlin with the same load.
Too damn much iron in one of them for for me to pack around and recoil was
a bitch.
John
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| | From: | John | | Subject: | Re: Explanation for different uses of shotgun shells? - TC | | Date: | Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:16:17 -0600 |
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| >A Thompson Contender is a single shot, break action pistol that is very
>accurate and quite strong in its design...
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>.. Examples of this would be .308 and 45/70 rifle cartridges, now shot through
>a pistol! Here's a link,
No the Contender is not suitable for the 308 win and the 45-70 is marginal.
I traded my 45-70 barrel because except with level 1 loads you risk frame
stretch.
You might be referring to the Encore? Much stronger but larger than the
Contender.
John
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| | From: | John Hart | | Subject: | Re: Explanation for different uses of shotgun shells? | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:39:09 -0600 |
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| "Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
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> A Thompson Contender is a single shot, break action pistol that is
> very accurate and quite strong in its design. There are
> interchangable barrels that enable a shooter to go beyond the limits
> of conventional pistol ammunition and shoot calibers that were
> typically thought of as only available in rifles.
>
> Examples of this would be .308 and 45/70 rifle cartridges, now shot
> through a pistol! Here's a link,
>
> http://www.tcarms.com/contpistol/index.php
> --
> Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
> http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
> G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
> http://www.herefishyfishy.com
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My comment has little to do with TC Contender, but an interesting aside is
the .45-70 has been available in a revolver for several years. I can't
remember the brand name of the two we had in the showcase about 10 years
ago, but here's a company presently making that caliber, and a few other
large caliber revolvers.
http://www.magnumresearch.com/bfr_fact.asp
John Hart
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| | From: | John | | Subject: | Re: Explanation for different uses of shotgun shells? | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:23:14 -0600 |
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| >My comment has little to do with TC Contender, but an interesting aside is
>the .45-70 has been available in a revolver for several years. I can't
>remember the brand name of the two we had in the showcase about 10 years
>ago, but here's a company presently making that caliber, and a few other
>large caliber revolvers.
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>http://www.magnumresearch.com/bfr_fact.asp
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>John Hart
But notice the ballistics are not as good as a 454. Recoil factor is lower,
but the gun weighs 33% more and does not push the bullet as fast (with
factory loads). They did imply it was ok to load a little hotter and you
can safely do that in a Contender too but that big 45-70 case head loaded
hotter runs the risk of stretching the frame in the Contender
Interesting novelty but don't think I want one. Might be interesting for
shot shells though. You could get a lot of shot in that big case.
John
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