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 | | From: | Adam | | Subject: | bicep slicer from guard? | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:13:08 -0600 |
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 | Can someone explain to me the mechanics of this move and the usual
openings? I know (or at least think I do) that from down there it is your
shin that goes in the arm crook. What happens after that? I've been
trying my omaplata a lot lately, and whats happening is that the other guy
is able to stop my movement enough just long enough to shove his arm back
in front of him and then rip himself back and out of my guard, or worse yet
flatten my and pass to that side.
But before he does there's a few seconds where my shin is right there in
the bend of his arm. But I also thought the slicer from there uses your
opposite leg. Example: my right shin goes in his right elbow crook, as
opposed to my left leg in there which is whats happening with oma set up.
Anyone?
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| | From: | Badger_South | | Subject: | Re: bicep slicer from guard? | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:53:35 -0500 |
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| On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:13:08 -0600, adam@firstmanmedia.com (Adam) wrote:
>Can someone explain to me the mechanics of this move and the usual
>openings? I know (or at least think I do) that from down there it is your
>shin that goes in the arm crook. What happens after that? I've been
>trying my omaplata a lot lately, and whats happening is that the other guy
>is able to stop my movement enough just long enough to shove his arm back
>in front of him and then rip himself back and out of my guard, or worse yet
>flatten my and pass to that side.
You gotta be off to the side and have his balance loaded towards his head
so he can't get the base to rip the arm back.
>But before he does there's a few seconds where my shin is right there in
>the bend of his arm. But I also thought the slicer from there uses your
>opposite leg. Example: my right shin goes in his right elbow crook, as
>opposed to my left leg in there which is whats happening with oma set up.
Not sure if this is the same as the biceps crush, but standard things apply
- you have to have positional control for just long enough to get the crush
locked in. So maybe you're missing controlling the hips, or you haven't
removed his base for long enough to get the finish. That's the way I'd
analyze it. Make sure you have the five fundamentals for top control (Matt
Thornton), base disrupted, elbow controlled, blocking out the guard,
pinning, and weight distribution, etc. If you're on bottom, you have to
keep him from getting any or all of these to be effective.
-B
>Anyone?
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| | From: | Badger_South | | Subject: | Re: bicep slicer from guard? | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:32:12 -0500 |
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| On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:13:08 -0600, adam@firstmanmedia.com (Adam) wrote:
>Can someone explain to me the mechanics of this move and the usual
>openings? I know (or at least think I do) that from down there it is your
>shin that goes in the arm crook. What happens after that? I've been
>trying my omaplata a lot lately, and whats happening is that the other guy
>is able to stop my movement enough just long enough to shove his arm back
>in front of him and then rip himself back and out of my guard, or worse yet
>flatten my and pass to that side.
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>But before he does there's a few seconds where my shin is right there in
>the bend of his arm. But I also thought the slicer from there uses your
>opposite leg. Example: my right shin goes in his right elbow crook, as
>opposed to my left leg in there which is whats happening with oma set up.
>
>Anyone?
Here's one example for the biceps slice from triangle from Jen's site:
http://www.jenbjj.com/NewTechnique/Tech2.html
HTH?
-B
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