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--- caterbro@my-deja.com wrote:
> One cannot begin to understand a Yo Mamma/Osama
> until one begins to
> picture
> the "ideal" world through his feudal-looking eyes.
look, that's the EASY part- the guy is a fundamentalist; by definition,
adheres to clear patterns of behavior and belief. do you think that its
schocking or upsetting or, like, eeeevil and shit? grow up, learn some
analytical perspective- Bin Laden is a representative specimen, not a
bogeyman.
> Well, let's put it in general terms. Old traditional
> fundamentalist
> Islamic
> perceptions are the main reason for a pervasive
> distrust of the West
> from
> square one.
categorically wrong.
> Saddam shares the same profound animosity toward the
> West. His actions
> make him also a product of the standard party-line
> ideology that
> surrounds
> that area of the world. Whether he is devout or not
> is immaterial.
astoundingly categorically wrong.
> The more modernized countries (Kuwait, Saudi Arabia,
> Egypt, etc) have
> their own problems with fundamentalists
three for three. these are NOT modernized countries. they are rich
feudal states that ENCOURAGE fundamentalist beiliefs and radical islam.
Saudi Arabia is, in no uncertain terms, the cradle of Bin Laden.
Kuwait, little better. Egypt has a civil society that, in every
respect, is equal to the Raj in India. they are modern only in that the
rich have cell phones.
iraq was the ONLY modern state in the middle east; secular,
progressive, national- OUR ALLY FOR TWENTY YEARS until we blew it up.a
your picture of the middle east is extraordinarily uninformed.
>they are but the
> leaders as a whole
> realize Islam must co-exist and interact with other
> religions.
well, "bodyguard", the vast majority of the Islamic religious authority
realize and preach this. the radicals get more attention becuase they
blow shit up, but the mainstream of islam is moderate, inclusive,
cooperative.
> Hence, a somewhat successful interaction, on the
> whole, is possible
> with the West.
good god, you said something right! under completely mistaken premises-
the VAST majority of muslims are NOT inimical to western progress and
prosperity- they just have had a savagely unpleasant expereince at the
hands of US foriegn policy, and therefor no reason to trust anything
that comes from our lips. they have NO problem getting along with the
EU, by way of indicative evidence.
> I like putting the burden where it really belongs.
> It is the *muslim* world that needs to condemn these
> backward
> ideologies.
THEY DO. you do not have the faintest conception of what or who you are
talking about. the VAST MAJORITY of muslims condemn terrorism, wish to
work to peace and progress is science and society, want democracy, etc.
> History is watching; we'll see if Islamic countries
> get enough courage
> to
> step up and bridge the gap or continue to look the
> other way when
> entire
> populations are enslaved by inhuman feudal
> ideologies.
> JS
gee, like in Saudi Arabia? what a joke. you sound like a dog show
announcer trying to annouce the NFL playoffs. give up geopolitics and
stick to martial arts.
carl
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