Sydney - Organisers of Australia's first nudist music festival are
promising to turn away single people and eject those who start dancing.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=29&art_id=qw110567934133B223

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Guess that these nudists realize that you can't trust single males.

From:	Sylvia
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:05:17 +1100

Max Jefferson wrote:

> Sydney - Organisers of Australia's first nudist music festival are
> promising to turn away single people and eject those who start dancing.

I can't see anything on the website for the festival that implies a
restriction on dancing. Whether one can do it would thus depend on
whether dancing at such festivals is the norm. Not having been to one
myself, I cannot say.

But if it's the norm, and the conditions imposed when buying the ticket
do not include a prohibition on dancing, then they could land themselves
in some unwanted legal hotwater if they eject people for dancing.

Fortunately for them, I won't be going anyway.

Sylvia.

From:	AridZonaGal
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	22 Jan 2005 21:26:21 GMT

>I can't see anything on the website for the festival that implies a
>restriction on dancing. Whether one can do it would thus depend on
>whether dancing at such festivals is the norm. Not having been to one
>myself, I cannot say.
>
>But if it's the norm, and the conditions imposed when buying the ticket
>do not include a prohibition on dancing, then they could land themselves
>in some unwanted legal hotwater if they eject people for dancing.
>
>Fortunately for them, I won't be going anyway.
>
>Sylvia.
>

Dancing, especially close dancing, can be a problem for some nude people
ually so some nudist venues do not allow it unless the people are clothed.
It is easier to keep the nudity non ual if the penis is not touching the
pubic area of the woman. the same for same dance partners.

DesertDwellingGal

From:	Floyd Baker
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:34:49 -0500

On 22 Jan 2005 21:26:21 GMT, aridzonagal@aol.comabcdefg (AridZonaGal)
wrote:

>>I can't see anything on the website for the festival that implies a
>>restriction on dancing. Whether one can do it would thus depend on
>>whether dancing at such festivals is the norm. Not having been to one
>>myself, I cannot say.
>>
>>But if it's the norm, and the conditions imposed when buying the ticket
>>do not include a prohibition on dancing, then they could land themselves
>>in some unwanted legal hotwater if they eject people for dancing.
>>
>>Fortunately for them, I won't be going anyway.
>>
>>Sylvia.
>>
>
> Dancing, especially close dancing, can be a problem for some nude people
>ually so some nudist venues do not allow it unless the people are clothed.
>It is easier to keep the nudity non ual if the penis is not touching the
>pubic area of the woman. the same for same dance partners.
>
>DesertDwellingGal

This may be a dupe as the original seems to have not posted.

Where I've been, it's usually a case of 'bare as you dare'... Of
course the dare part relates to who you expect to be dancing with.
*Generally* speaking, women will only dance close, slow, and nude
with people they 'know'..., s/o's and such. Unless you're a swinger
perhaps. In any case, a woman who *want's* to turn a dance partner
on, wouldn't let a little cloth stand in her way. I know, cause
I've been to Jack London square in Oakland..., and a few other nice
places.

But you're talking men? So if you're a man and find yourself standing
up, you simply need to sit down. It you don't want to dance anymore
because you've thought of something better to do, you best take it
upstairs. No need to make up a lot of silly rules for everyone else
to follow, that do nothing more than take us back to 'dysfunctional'
textile land and their mentality..

Floyd

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From:	Molly Wilson
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:46:43 -0600

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Dancing, especially close dancing, can be
a problem for some nude people ually so some nudist venues do not
allow it unless the people are clothed. It is easier to keep the nudity
non ual if the penis is not touching the pubic area of the woman. the
same for same dance partners.
DesertDwellingGal
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D DG..... you can CLEARLY see that
anyone interpreting the above as being a statement of fault...explaining
why nudist venues have rules does not represent a personal opinion by
the explainer.....and the one making the charges of you saying it was a
fault..... is CLEARLY out of touch...resentful...or a redneck.......now
you know jenny.....jonZeee

From:	Jenny6833A
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	23 Jan 2005 00:43:19 GMT

aridzonagal@aol.comabcdefg (AridZonaGal) says

> Dancing, especially close dancing, can be a problem for some nude people
>ually so some nudist venues do not allow it unless the people are clothed.

Feet, especially cute feet, can be a problem for some nude people ually. Is
that a reason to ban feet? Or bare feet?

>It is easier to keep the nudity non ual if the penis is not touching the
>pubic area of the woman. the same for same dance partners.

So you want to penalize everyone for the faults of a few?

>DesertDwellingGal

:-)

Jenny

Before emailing, remove Clothes

From:	AridZonaGal
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	23 Jan 2005 14:50:10 GMT

>So you want to penalize everyone for the faults of a few?

>:-)
>
>Jenny

Why do you consider people getting turned on when they dance to be a
fault?
DesertDwellingGal

From:	Jenny6833A
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	23 Jan 2005 20:17:02 GMT

aridzonagal@aol.comabcdefg (AridZonaGal) says

>>So you want to penalize everyone for the faults of a few?
>
>>:-)
>>
>>Jenny
>
> Why do you consider people getting turned on when they dance to be a
>fault?
>DesertDwellingGal

I don't. You clearly did.

:-)

Jenny

From:	El Dorado Hot Springs
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:31:43 GMT

Dear AZG,

"AridZonaGal" wrote in message

> Dancing, especially close dancing, can be a problem for some nude
people
> ually so some nudist venues do not allow it unless the people are
clothed.

How many nudist venues have you been to? At all the ones we've been to where
we danced close to slow music both with each other and with other dance
(only) partners, none of them required clothing. These include, but are not
limited to, Birch Acres (now Berkshire Vista), Phoenix Resort, Empire Haven,
Steph's Pond, Pine Tree, Sky Farm, Whispering Pines, Middle Of Nowhere,
Avalon, Bar S, Cherokee, Sunny Sands, Sunnier Palms, Sunsport, Como, Gulf
Coast, Sandpipers, Shangri La, DeAnza Springs, etc, not to mention every
Naturist Society Gathering, Happening, and Festival for the last 16 years.

We're wondering why you'd post something that so far from the truth.

> It is easier to keep the nudity non ual if the penis is not touching
the
> pubic area of the woman.

See above.

AZG, you really need to actually go to a few places and experience what's
actually happening before you post things that simply are not true.

In Hot Water,
C&B

From:	Floyd Baker
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 07:50:37 -0500

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:31:43 GMT, "El Dorado Hot Springs"

wrote:

>
>Dear AZG,
>
>"AridZonaGal" wrote in message
>
>> Dancing, especially close dancing, can be a problem for some nude
>people
>> ually so some nudist venues do not allow it unless the people are
>clothed.
>
>How many nudist venues have you been to? At all the ones we've been to where
>we danced close to slow music both with each other and with other dance
>(only) partners, none of them required clothing. These include, but are not
>limited to, Birch Acres (now Berkshire Vista), Phoenix Resort, Empire Haven,
>Steph's Pond, Pine Tree, Sky Farm, Whispering Pines, Middle Of Nowhere,
>Avalon, Bar S, Cherokee, Sunny Sands, Sunnier Palms, Sunsport, Como, Gulf
>Coast, Sandpipers, Shangri La, DeAnza Springs, etc, not to mention every
>Naturist Society Gathering, Happening, and Festival for the last 16 years.
>
>We're wondering why you'd post something that so far from the truth.
>
>> It is easier to keep the nudity non ual if the penis is not touching
>the
>> pubic area of the woman.
>
>See above.
>
>AZG, you really need to actually go to a few places and experience what's
>actually happening before you post things that simply are not true.
>
>In Hot Water,
>C&B
>

It seems we have a troll Bill. I saw that a while back and made some
reference to those tendencies she was displaying. Her insisting that
people need to be able to go c/o instead of full nude. Advising that
you were not running your place properly. Attempting to put me in an
'apologetic mode' regarding what I said on what women should be able
to wear when needed. That was an obvious purposeful mis-reading and
the only reason I can see would be to 'put me in my place' and gain
the upper hand in discussions on the subject. Now she is attempting
the usual by saying that comes with nudity..., when everyone knows
it's the other way around.

No doubt in my mind that this is an attempt to 'neutralize' Sylvia.
Johnz, the AFA or other RRR needed to produce an equal but opposing
faction. While her posts have tried to look like one, they are
simply anti-nudist. She is.., imho, a troll...

Floyd

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From:	Mark
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:07:34 GMT

"Floyd Baker" wrote in message
news:f067v0l9qp3iavi6nrkt6km342pb3sd4c7@4ax.com...
>
> No doubt in my mind that this is an attempt to 'neutralize' Sylvia.
> Johnz, the AFA or other RRR needed to produce an equal but opposing
> faction. While her posts have tried to look like one, they are
> simply anti-nudist. She is.., imho, a troll...
>
> Floyd

I agree.....I ignore "her" posts. They tend to be almost as silly as Max
Jefferson's posts, and contain about the same degree of credibility.

From:	El Dorado Hot Springs
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:45:01 GMT

Dear Floyd,

"Floyd Baker" wrote in message

> No doubt in my mind that this is an attempt to 'neutralize' Sylvia.
> Johnz, the AFA or other RRR needed to produce an equal but opposing
> faction. While her posts have tried to look like one, they are
> simply anti-nudist. She is.., imho, a troll...

I'm beginning to think you're correct...well actually, the TrollOMeter has
been twitching a bit at most of the posts she/he/it has been making. Too
bad.

Bill

From:	Molly Wilson
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 04:32:45 -0600

AZG....you might remind this cotton mouth defender of do do....that
cyndiann was ually assaulted at a COMO dance.....and that Kathleen
has seen ual activity happen at his hot springs in az and offenders
have been asked to leave for such activities.....willy is a paranoid
compulsive liar.....hang in there girl.....he will dispute any ones word
that says any ever happens at aanr clubs...jonZeee

From:	AridZonaGal
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	23 Jan 2005 14:52:58 GMT

>Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
>From: mollyewilson@webtv.net (Molly Wilson)
>Date: 1/23/2005 4:32 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <11494-41F37D4D-5@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>
>
>AZG....you might remind this cotton mouth defender of do do....that
>cyndiann was ually assaulted at a COMO dance.....and that Kathleen
>has seen ual activity happen at his hot springs in az and offenders
>have been asked to leave for such activities.....willy is a paranoid
>compulsive liar.....hang in there girl.....he will dispute any ones word
>that says any ever happens at aanr clubs...jonZeee
>
>

Really? Wow thanks for the inside information. I didn't realize all of
that.
DesertDwellingGal

From:	cyndiann
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:46:05 GMT

"AridZonaGal" wrote in message
news:20050123095258.17775.00000181@mb-m07.aol.com...
> >Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
> >From: mollyewilson@webtv.net (Molly Wilson)
> >Date: 1/23/2005 4:32 AM Central Standard Time
> >Message-id: <11494-41F37D4D-5@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>
> >
> >AZG....you might remind this cotton mouth defender of do do....that
> >cyndiann was ually assaulted at a COMO dance.....and that Kathleen
> >has seen ual activity happen at his hot springs in az and offenders
> >have been asked to leave for such activities.....willy is a paranoid
> >compulsive liar.....hang in there girl.....he will dispute any ones word
> >that says any ever happens at aanr clubs...jonZeee
> >
> >
>
> Really? Wow thanks for the inside information. I didn't realize all
of
> that.
> DesertDwellingGal

You also don't realize that most of what jonz says is a figment of his
imagination. Grabbing someone's crotch is not .

cyndiann

From:	Molly Wilson
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:10:24 -0600

cyndiann....grabbing some ones crotch is a ual assault ...in legal
terms..and this is not a figament of my imagination......what is your
figament of imagination on crotch grabbing.....as imagination is your
total brain capacity......jonZeee

From:	Floyd Baker
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:11:35 -0500

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:10:24 -0600, mollyewilson@webtv.net (Molly
Wilson) wrote:

>cyndiann....grabbing some ones crotch is a ual assault ...in legal
>terms..and this is not a figament of my imagination......what is your
>figament of imagination on crotch grabbing.....as imagination is your
>total brain capacity......jonZeee

I think it's only ual assault if Cyndiann says it is...
Else we would *all* be in jail, eh?

Floyd

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From:	Dario Western
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:20:29 +1000

Floyd,

What else can it be constituted as? Is the crotch a part of our ual
anatomy or not?!

Dario Western

"Floyd Baker" wrote in message
news:n6f8v0h3v68n5b8h8dl24j1fhjaq3vcd1c@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:10:24 -0600, mollyewilson@webtv.net (Molly
> Wilson) wrote:
>
> >cyndiann....grabbing some ones crotch is a ual assault ...in legal
> >terms..and this is not a figament of my imagination......what is your
> >figament of imagination on crotch grabbing.....as imagination is your
> >total brain capacity......jonZeee
>
> I think it's only ual assault if Cyndiann says it is...
> Else we would *all* be in jail, eh?
>
> Floyd
>
>
> Please visit my website at www.cheef.com/buffaloskin/
>
> * Learn about the lifestyle *

From:	Floyd Baker
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:40:11 -0500

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:20:29 +1000, "Dario Western"
wrote:

>Floyd,
>
>What else can it be constituted as? Is the crotch a part of our ual
>anatomy or not?!
>
>
>Dario Western

Let me ask you a tough one...

Here it is... Get ready. :-)

"Have you ever had your hand on a woman's crotch...?"

Are you in jail? I am assuming that you're not. Why aren't you?

Is it because you never did that?

Or maybe she didn't think it was *assault*....?

Tell us Dario...

Floyd

>"Floyd Baker" wrote in message
>news:n6f8v0h3v68n5b8h8dl24j1fhjaq3vcd1c@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:10:24 -0600, mollyewilson@webtv.net (Molly
>> Wilson) wrote:
>>
>> >cyndiann....grabbing some ones crotch is a ual assault ...in legal
>> >terms..and this is not a figament of my imagination......what is your
>> >figament of imagination on crotch grabbing.....as imagination is your
>> >total brain capacity......jonZeee
>>
>> I think it's only ual assault if Cyndiann says it is...
>> Else we would *all* be in jail, eh?
>>
>> Floyd
>>
>>
>> Please visit my website at www.cheef.com/buffaloskin/
>>
>> * Learn about the lifestyle *
>

Please visit my website at www.cheef.com/buffaloskin/

* Learn about the lifestyle *

From:	Sylvia
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:49:43 +1100

Dario Western wrote:

> Floyd,
>
> What else can it be constituted as? Is the crotch a part of our ual
> anatomy or not?!
>

So a knee in the groin is ual assault?

Sylvia.

From:	Mark
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:55:29 GMT

"Sylvia" wrote in message news:41f45437$0$2424

> So a knee in the groin is ual assault?
>
> Sylvia.

Actually.........................................that's the full extent of
Jonzee's ual being. (Maybe THAT is why he is so crotch-fixated.... 8^)

From:	cyndiann
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:38:08 GMT

"Floyd Baker" wrote in message
news:n6f8v0h3v68n5b8h8dl24j1fhjaq3vcd1c@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:10:24 -0600, mollyewilson@webtv.net (Molly
> Wilson) wrote:
>
> >cyndiann....grabbing some ones crotch is a ual assault ...in legal
> >terms..and this is not a figament of my imagination......what is your
> >figament of imagination on crotch grabbing.....as imagination is your
> >total brain capacity......jonZeee
>
> I think it's only ual assault if Cyndiann says it is...
> Else we would *all* be in jail, eh?
>
> Floyd
>
And it's not " at a nudist resort" either.
cyndiann

From:	Molly Wilson
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:49:25 -0600

he he....you are right cyndiann...IT IS A SEXUAL ASSAULT AT A NUDIST
CAMP....that is worse you know....jz

From:	Floyd Baker
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:09:41 -0500

On 23 Jan 2005 14:52:58 GMT, aridzonagal@aol.comabcdefg (AridZonaGal)
wrote:

>>Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
>>From: mollyewilson@webtv.net (Molly Wilson)
>>Date: 1/23/2005 4:32 AM Central Standard Time
>>Message-id: <11494-41F37D4D-5@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>
>>
>>AZG....you might remind this cotton mouth defender of do do....that
>>cyndiann was ually assaulted at a COMO dance.....and that Kathleen
>>has seen ual activity happen at his hot springs in az and offenders
>>have been asked to leave for such activities.....willy is a paranoid
>>compulsive liar.....hang in there girl.....he will dispute any ones word
>>that says any ever happens at aanr clubs...jonZeee
>>
>>
>
> Really? Wow thanks for the inside information. I didn't realize all of
>that.
>DesertDwellingGal

And why are you so happy to hear about it??

The 'assult' was a hand in the wrong place. That's pretty simple
stuff and happens all the time in textile land... I'm sure you know
that, right?

Are you and johnz talking to yourself? Like I used to play chess
with myself by turning the board around each turn?

Floyd...

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From:	cyndiann
Subject:	Re: No Singles or People Dancing at Australian Nudist Music event.
Date:	Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:45:19 GMT

"AridZonaGal" wrote in message
news:20050122162621.10783.00000166@mb-m29.aol.com...
> >I can't see anything on the website for the festival that implies a
> >restriction on dancing. Whether one can do it would thus depend on
> >whether dancing at such festivals is the norm. Not having been to one
> >myself, I cannot say.
> >
> >But if it's the norm, and the conditions imposed when buying the ticket
> >do not include a prohibition on dancing, then they could land themselves
> >in some unwanted legal hotwater if they eject people for dancing.
> >
> >Fortunately for them, I won't be going anyway.
> >
> >Sylvia.
> >
>
> Dancing, especially close dancing, can be a problem for some nude
people
> ually so some nudist venues do not allow it unless the people are
clothed.
> It is easier to keep the nudity non ual if the penis is not touching
the
> pubic area of the woman. the same for same dance partners.

It's a lot of worry over nothing. I've seen hundreds of nude dances and a
handful of erections in two decades. So what if someone gets a little
excited? Just go sit down and gain back control is all. Like someone is
gonna actually die from seeing one? LOL!

cyndiann
www.mynudelife.com