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 | | From: | John S. Dyson | | Subject: | Re: What Is God? | | Date: | Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:23:43 +0000 (UTC) |
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James Knott writes:
> Mark Fergerson wrote:
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>>> It all depends on what your goals and expectations are. You are free to
>>> choose your own course, no big thing to me.
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>> So, will you try to pray away the next natural disaster headed your
>> way, or will you assume it's sent by your deity-of-choice to punish you,
>> and sit still for it?
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> Ever wonder why the area of the U.S., known as the "bible belt", gets hit
> with so many hurricanes and tornados? ;-)
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> The amount of stupidity generated by those "true believers" is enormous!
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I have seen both stupidity and high intelligence from religious people.
One person had claimed that the reason why Indiana isn't on DST
is that it was 'Gods' time. Unfortunately, alot of psueudo-intellectuals
(both religious and non-religious) cannot explain why (for example)
much of Indiana has a weird timezone. (The historical facts actually
show that Indiana's timezone is more politically correct than one might
initially guess -- hint, Indiana used to be on the Central timezone,
and the Eastern timezone might be an artifact of a legislative decision
related to DST...) Okay, the answer is that Indiana was changed to Central
Timezone with DST all year around... That got changed to EST, and some of the
resistance to DST (again) is that it would be a double DST.
Actually, it'd probably be advantageous for Indiana to have the double
DST whammy, but it is kind of misleading (only technically correct, however
not explanatory) to say that most of Indiana doesn't currently respect DST.
It is true that some idiot called the non-DST Indiana timezone to be
'Gods time', but it is also true that alot of psuedo-intellectuals couldn't
explain the historical reason for the oddity.
John
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| | From: | Jim Thompson | | Subject: | Re: What Is God? | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:58:58 -0700 |
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| On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:23:43 +0000 (UTC), toor@iquest.net (John S.
Dyson) wrote:
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>It is true that some idiot called the non-DST Indiana timezone to be
>'Gods time', but it is also true that alot of psuedo-intellectuals couldn't
>explain the historical reason for the oddity.
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>John
Arizona doesn't observe DST for a very simple reason... the drive-in
movie theater lobby argued that it would hurt their business on school
nights... because they couldn't start the show until 9PM.
I AM NOT pulling your leg ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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| | From: | keith | | Subject: | Re: What Is God? | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:39:52 -0500 |
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| On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:58:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:23:43 +0000 (UTC), toor@iquest.net (John S.
> Dyson) wrote:
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> [snip]
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>>It is true that some idiot called the non-DST Indiana timezone to be
>>'Gods time', but it is also true that alot of psuedo-intellectuals couldn't
>>explain the historical reason for the oddity.
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>>John
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> Arizona doesn't observe DST for a very simple reason... the drive-in
> movie theater lobby argued that it would hurt their business on school
> nights... because they couldn't start the show until 9PM.
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> I AM NOT pulling your leg ;-)
Makes perfect sense to me. I love DST, since it gives another hour of sun
in the evening in summer and gives it back in the morning in the winter.
It's enough of a PITA to have sunlight at 4:00AM, we don't need it at
3:00AM. Likewise it's rather nice to at least go to work this time of
year in the light. It's dark by the time I leave. I'd vote for double
DST. Perhaps another half-hour on both ends.
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Keith
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| | From: | James Knott | | Subject: | Re: What Is God? | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:13:43 -0500 |
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| John S. Dyson wrote:
> It is true that some idiot called the non-DST Indiana timezone to be
> 'Gods time', but it is also true that alot of psuedo-intellectuals
> couldn't explain the historical reason for the oddity.
I don't know the historical background of Indiana, but then I don't live in
the U.S. However, in many areas, there was a big cry that the "extra" hour
of daylight would burn crops! In other areas there are political concerns
and others just plain old "stick in the mud" stubborness.
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| | From: | ynotssor | | Subject: | Re: What Is God? | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:28:03 -0800 |
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| "James Knott" quoted in message
news:vK6dnTXBb7FKK2zcRVn-pA@rogers.com John S. Dyson saying:
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>> It is true that some idiot called the non-DST Indiana timezone to be
>> 'Gods time', but it is also true that alot of psuedo-intellectuals
>> couldn't explain the historical reason for the oddity.
Almost nobody, pseudo-intellectual or otherwise, can explain the historical
reason for such idiots.
Most just consider such idiots to be the cross that society has to bear.
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| | From: | Noah Roberts | | Subject: | Re: What Is God? | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:58:57 -0800 |
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| John S. Dyson wrote:
> It is true that some idiot called the non-DST Indiana timezone to be
> 'Gods time', but it is also true that alot of psuedo-intellectuals couldn't
> explain the historical reason for the oddity.
It is quite funny actually:
In 1883, the major railroads agree to coordinate their clocks and begin
operating on "standard time" with four "time zones" established across
the nation. For Indianapolis, this means that, according to the
railroads, noon arrives at 12:16 p.m. Newspaper editorial writers
express outrage and call for local clocks to remain on "God's time."
Comes from http://www.indystar.com/library/factfiles/history/time/ which
also has many other hilarious entries...
1949
By the late 1940s, the use of day-light-saving time -- known as fast
time -- has become popular in cities. Indiana is officially in the
Central time zone, but some communities choose to follow fast time
year-round, aligning themselves essentially with the Eastern time zone.
In 1949, the Indiana Senate quietly passes a bill that would keep the
state on Central time and outlaw daylight-saving time. When the bill
reaches the House, there is mayhem on the floor as legislators
representing cities (which generally favor fast time) battle legislators
from agricultural areas (where changing the clock at all is considered
"unnatural" and "unhealthy for cows").
Lacking enough votes, the city faction tries to filibuster until time
runs out on the session at midnight, but rural champion Rep. Herbert
Copeland, R?Madison, leans over the gallery railing and forces the
official clock back to 9 p.m., breaking it in the process. The clock
sticks on 9 as the debate rages on into the night. The filibuster
finally dies out and the bill passes, while outside the chamber, clocks
read 3:30 a.m.
In the end, it doesn't matter which side won. The law has no enforcement
powers and is simply ignored by fast-time communities.
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