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 | | From: | Tim Roberts | | Subject: | a and an | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:36:18 +1000 |
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 | I'm looking for examples of where it is correct to use the indefinite article "a" rather than the indefinite article "an" immediately prior to a word beginning with one of the five vowels a,e,i,o,u.
I can think of one but am sure there must be more....
Tim
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 | | From: | Andrew Bull | | Subject: | Re: a and an | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:53:26 -0000 |
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 | Tim Roberts wrote in message <41f2e376@dnews.tpgi.com.au>... >I'm looking for examples of where it is correct to use the indefinite >article "a" rather than the indefinite article "an" immediately prior to a >word beginning with one of the five vowels a,e,i,o,u. > >I can think of one but am sure there must be more....
Plenty posted for "e" and "u". For "o": Ouija, ouabain, ouakari, ouistiti Best I can find for "i" is iure, and I can't find any for "a".
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 | | From: | Adrian Bailey | | Subject: | Re: a and an | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:16:45 GMT |
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 | "Tim Roberts" wrote in message news:41f2e376@dnews.tpgi.com.au... > I'm looking for examples of where it is correct to use the indefinite > article "a" rather than the indefinite article "an" immediately prior to a > word beginning with one of the five vowels a,e,i,o,u. > > I can think of one but am sure there must be more....
As others have said (time and time again) it's not the presence of "a vowel" that's important, it's the presence of **a vowel sound**.
a European a uniform an hour an H
Adrian
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 | | From: | Prai Jei | | Subject: | Re: a and an | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:39:01 +0000 |
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 | Adrian Bailey (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message <1tNId.203133$48.194594@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>:
> "Tim Roberts" wrote in message > news:41f2e376@dnews.tpgi.com.au... >> I'm looking for examples of where it is correct to use the indefinite >> article "a" rather than the indefinite article "an" immediately prior to >> a word beginning with one of the five vowels a,e,i,o,u. >> >> I can think of one but am sure there must be more.... > > As others have said (time and time again) it's not the presence of "a > vowel" that's important, it's the presence of **a vowel sound**. > > a European > a uniform > an hour > an H
Not forgetting an 18-wheeler, an 8086 processor (remember them? That's right, no middle digit) or an MP3 file. -- Paul Townsend Pair them off into threes
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 | | From: | Phil Carmody | | Subject: | Re: a and an | | Date: | 23 Jan 2005 17:42:37 +0200 |
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 | "Adrian Bailey" writes:
> "Tim Roberts" wrote in message > news:41f2e376@dnews.tpgi.com.au... > > I'm looking for examples of where it is correct to use the indefinite > > article "a" rather than the indefinite article "an" immediately prior to a > > word beginning with one of the five vowels a,e,i,o,u. > > > > I can think of one but am sure there must be more.... > > As others have said (time and time again) it's not the presence of "a vowel" > that's important, it's the presence of **a vowel sound**. > > a European > a uniform > an hour > an H
Plus things like the painful "an historical ...".
I think most of the bases have been covered by now. One last one that seems to have slipped through would be:
An Yttrium atom. (& related) An yclept such-and-such. (Hey, man, I still use the word!) An ybounden Adam. (OK, I don't use that one, I admit)
Phil
-- Excerpt from Geoff Bulter's Proscriptive Dictionary: aaa Don't use this, there's no such word aaaa Don't use this, there's no such word aaaaa Don't use this, there's no such word
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 | | From: | Phil Carmody | | Subject: | Re: a and an | | Date: | 23 Jan 2005 14:48:03 +0200 |
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 | "Tim Roberts" writes: > I'm looking for examples of where it is correct to use the indefinite > article "a" rather than the indefinite article "an" immediately prior to a > word beginning with one of the five vowels a,e,i,o,u. > > I can think of one but am sure there must be more....
Anything uni-...
Phil -- Excerpt from Geoff Bulter's Proscriptive Dictionary: aaa Don't use this, there's no such word aaaa Don't use this, there's no such word aaaaa Don't use this, there's no such word
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 | | From: | Song Weaver | | Subject: | Re: a and an | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:19:44 -0500 |
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 | Phil Carmody wrote: >>I'm looking for examples of where it is correct to use the indefinite >>article "a" rather than the indefinite article "an" immediately prior to a >>word beginning with one of the five vowels a,e,i,o,u. >> >>I can think of one but am sure there must be more.... > > Anything uni-...
That's a fairly uninformed opinion.
--julie
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 | | From: | Patrick Hamlyn | | Subject: | Re: a and an | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:21:18 GMT |
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 | "Tim Roberts" wrote:
>I'm looking for examples of where it is correct to use the indefinite >article "a" rather than the indefinite article "an" immediately prior to a >word beginning with one of the five vowels a,e,i,o,u. > >I can think of one but am sure there must be more....
Who remembers a movie or something where a particularly annoying little boy pipes up in a particularly shrill squeak something like "I've got an uuuuuunicoooooorn!"
The sound of that line in my head has stayed with me for over 30 years, maybe 40, everything else about the movie has gone.
=== And let's not neglect the inverse of what you want, ie "an hotel/hospital"
-- Patrick Hamlyn posting from Perth, Western Australia Windsurfing capital of the Southern Hemisphere Moderator: polyforms group (polyforms-subscribe@egroups.com)
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 | | From: | Steve Grant | | Subject: | Re: a and an | | Date: | Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:52:09 -0500 |
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 | "Tim Roberts" wrote in message news:41f2e376@dnews.tpgi.com.au... > I'm looking for examples of where it is correct to use the indefinite > article "a" rather than the indefinite article "an" immediately prior to a > word beginning with one of the five vowels a,e,i,o,u. > > I can think of one but am sure there must be more....
Any "u-" word in which the 'u' is pronounced "yoo-."
A unified theory, a union, a united front, a universally held view, a university, ....
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 | | From: | Bill Smythe | | Subject: | Re: a and an | | Date: | Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:01:07 -0600 |
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 | "Steve Grant" wrote: > A unified theory, a union, a united front, a universally held view, a > university, ....
A eulogy, a eunuch ....
Bill Smythe
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 | | From: | Dan Tilque | | Subject: | Re: a and an | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:21:17 -0800 |
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 | Steve Grant wrote:
> "Tim Roberts" wrote in message > news:41f2e376@dnews.tpgi.com.au... >> I'm looking for examples of where it is correct to use the >> indefinite article "a" rather than the indefinite article >> "an" immediately prior to a word beginning with one of the >> five vowels a,e,i,o,u. > > Any "u-" word in which the 'u' is pronounced "yoo-." > > A unified theory, a union, a united front, a universally held > view, a university, ....
What about 'unionized'? A or an?
-- Dan Tilque
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 | | From: | EDEB | | Subject: | Re: a and an | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:10:49 +0000 (UTC) |
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 | : >> I'm looking for examples of where it is correct to use the : >> indefinite article "a" rather than the indefinite article : >> "an" immediately prior to a word beginning with one of the : >> five vowels a,e,i,o,u.
And a eunuch.
EDEB.
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 | | From: | Prai Jei | | Subject: | Re: a and an | | Date: | Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:01:05 +0000 |
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 | Dan Tilque (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message <10v6njbj1af5i06@corp.supernews.com>:
>> Any "u-" word in which the 'u' is pronounced "yoo-." >> >> A unified theory, a union, a united front, a universally held >> view, a university, .... > > What about 'unionized'? A or an?
Depends on the meaning. If it means "pertaining to a union" then the first syllable is pronounced "yoon-" and "a" is correct. If it is the chemical term "not having been converted to a charged particle" then the first syllable is pronounced "un-" and "an" is the appropriate form.
There you have *a* European viewpoint. -- Paul Townsend Pair them off into threes
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